And what they did was treason."

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

you mean the Barr that prior to even getting the AG job

argued that the special counsel, Robert Mueller, should not be allowed to demand answers from the president about possible obstruction of justice.

or the Barr When asked in a hearing has the white house seen Mullers report (refused to Answer )

"I feel an obligation to make sure government power is not abused," Barr said. "I think that is one of the principal roles of the attorney general." His boss told him to investigate )no abuse of power there ) but looking into the russians is now a bad thing oh how far republicans have fallen when they think their biggest Threat is from within our own Government ....


US intelligence officials have previously said they were spying on the Russians, not the Trump campaign.

Seems Kraft and Trump have the same issue they both just happened to be there .... now crying it was a set up...

So you don't believe there is a possibility that Barr is right?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So you don't believe there is a possibility that Barr is right?

nope the man said Trump couldn't be charged with the crime of obstruction concluded that the special counsel’s evidence was “not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”

only congress can deem high crimes and misdemeanors

Attorney General William Barr meanwhile said he believes US authorities did spy on the Trump campaign.

He did not provide evidence for his claims. see that a ot with this administration

then this Attorney General Bill Barr told Congress he's looking into the origins of the Russia investigation. He told members he has no evidence of wrongdoing but some "unanswered questions."

they need to make up their minds

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

nope the man said Trump couldn't be charged with the crime of obstruction concluded that the special counsel’s evidence was “not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”

only congress can deem high crimes and misdemeanors

Attorney General William Barr meanwhile said he believes US authorities did spy on the Trump campaign.

He did not provide evidence for his claims. see that a ot with this administration

then this Attorney General Bill Barr told Congress he's looking into the origins of the Russia investigation. He told members he has no evidence of wrongdoing but some "unanswered questions."

they need to make up their minds

you’re saying there’s no evidence the trump campaign was spied on? it’s public record that Carter paige was spied on. the primary justification for the wiretaps, is the garbage Steele dossier.

Rep Schiff said today that he think we shouldn’t investigate the claim of inappropriate spying. Funny, I’m so old i can remember when he was in favor of special investigations.

i was all in favor of investigating trump, i said so all along. i’m also in favor of determining if the justice dept went on a political witch hunt, in an attempt to overturn a fair election whose outcome they didn’t like. if they did nothing wrong, the investigation will show that. if they did what has been alleged, that means they attempted a coup. i’d think you’d care if that happened.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re saying there’s no evidence the trump campaign was spied on? it’s public record that Carter paige was spied on. the primary justification for the wiretaps, is the garbage Steele dossier.

Rep Schiff said today that he think we shouldn’t investigate the claim of inappropriate spying. Funny, I’m so old i can remember when he was in favor of special investigations.

i was all in favor of investigating trump, i said so all along. i’m also in favor of determining if the justice dept went on a political witch hunt, in an attempt to overturn a fair election whose outcome they didn’t like. if they did nothing wrong, the investigation will show that. if they did what has been alleged, that means they attempted a coup. i’d think you’d care if that happened.
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If the FBI are watching a Russian or Russian and you meet with said Russian or Russians was the FBI spying on You? It's that basic

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If the FBI are watching a Russian or Russian and you meet with said Russian or Russians was the FBI spying on You? It's that basic

What Russian were the FBI watching and why?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If the FBI are watching a Russian or Russian and you meet with said Russian or Russians was the FBI spying on You? It's that basic

That's true. But what you either are unaware of, or are pretending to be unaware of, is what happened with Carter Page, an American citizen on whom the FBI got a FISA warrant. The application for the warrant (you need probable cause) was the garbage Steele dossier.

So if the FBI had reasonable grounds to spy on Carter Page, and release his name so the networks could say he was a spy, I'm fine with that (though he hasn't been charged with anything). If the FBI made up the probable cause because they didn't want Trump to be President, that's something else.

It's important enough to investigate. I guess you disagree. We see texts from DOJ and FBI officials suggesting that they really, really didn't want Trump to win, and these people did not recuse themselves from the investigations. Of course that's not proof they did anything wrong. But it doesn't look good when the people investigating Trump and Hilary, are so openly hostile to Trump.

But in any event, not only did the Russia probe turn up no charges from the guy (Mueller) who everyone said would have the last word, it did trigger Barr to investigate those who shrieked about Russia collusion. Funny how that worked out, almost ironic in a way?

Noting sweeter, and I mean NOTHING, than watching someone get hoisted by their own petard.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's true. But what you either are unaware of, or are pretending to be unaware of, is what happened with Carter Page, an American citizen on whom the FBI got a FISA warrant. The application for the warrant (you need probable cause) was the garbage Steele dossier.

So if the FBI had reasonable grounds to spy on Carter Page, and release his name so the networks could say he was a spy, I'm fine with that (though he hasn't been charged with anything). If the FBI made up the probable cause because they didn't want Trump to be President, that's something else.

It's important enough to investigate. I guess you disagree. We see texts from DOJ and FBI officials suggesting that they really, really didn't want Trump to win, and these people did not recuse themselves from the investigations. Of course that's not proof they did anything wrong. But it doesn't look good when the people investigating Trump and Hilary, are so openly hostile to Trump.

But in any event, not only did the Russia probe turn up no charges from the guy (Mueller) who everyone said would have the last word, it did trigger Barr to investigate those who shrieked about Russia collusion. Funny how that worked out, almost ironic in a way?

Noting sweeter, and I mean NOTHING, than watching someone get hoisted by their own petard.

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.
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you dodged my entire point. wdmso, when time
and time again you can’t reapind to what i’m saying, what does that suggest to you?

we investigated the issue of trump using with russia, at least three separate investigations, turned up nothing.

it’s now time
to investigate whether or not the DOJ and FBI attempted a coup, because they disliked Trump. Because i am politically fair, i am
in the enviable
position of saying i support both investigations and i’m happy to accept the consequences of each.

the political zealots on the left loved the investigation of trump, but don’t want an investigation of the DOJ and FBI. it therefore seems that their desire for justice, is selective and politically motivated.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's true. But what you either are unaware of, or are pretending to be unaware of, is what happened with Carter Page, an American citizen on whom the FBI got a FISA warrant. The application for the warrant (you need probable cause) was the garbage Steele dossier.

So if the FBI had reasonable grounds to spy on Carter Page, and release his name so the networks could say he was a spy, I'm fine with that (though he hasn't been charged with anything). If the FBI made up the probable cause because they didn't want Trump to be President, that's something else.

It's important enough to investigate. I guess you disagree. We see texts from DOJ and FBI officials suggesting that they really, really didn't want Trump to win, and these people did not recuse themselves from the investigations. Of course that's not proof they did anything wrong. But it doesn't look good when the people investigating Trump and Hilary, are so openly hostile to Trump.

But in any event, not only did the Russia probe turn up no charges from the guy (Mueller) who everyone said would have the last word, it did trigger Barr to investigate those who shrieked about Russia collusion. Funny how that worked out, almost ironic in a way?

Noting sweeter, and I mean NOTHING, than watching someone get hoisted by their own petard.

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.

But bengiza was Hillary's fault??
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

But bengiza was Hillary's fault??
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while she was second state, every western nation, plus the red cross, pulled
out of benghazi because it was no longer safe. The americans were told to stay. in addition, we know that ambassador stevens
mad multiple requests for additional
security which were denied.

you deny she has some responsibility for those circumstances?
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[DZ]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.

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Do you have any idea how many politicians hang with Russian nationals? Just about everyone in Washington has a connection with a Russian. You make it sound unusual. It's well known that many Russian diplomats can also be intell gatherers - never the less diplomats serve a purpose in government and pols from both sides work with them on various issues.

Now if Barr decides to investigate if there was Dem collusion into falsely framing the Trump administration and the investigation proves they did - would you support indicting those involved? Simple answer will suffice - yes or no?