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Old 10-17-2018, 05:14 PM   #1
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There are very low odds that the republicans will get to 60 votes in the midterms.
The republicans have not had a filibuster proof majority in close to the last 100 years.
If you won't consider compromise, you may not be a great negotiator.
A great negotiator realizes the difference between compromise and surrender. If caving in on immigration, the key item that won Trump the Presidency, is not the surrender that Dems want, what do they wish to accomplish? The solutions that have been offered as compromise on immigration are basically the same solutions that led to further and greater illegal immigration. Sounds like surrender.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:51 PM   #2
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A great negotiator realizes the difference between compromise and surrender. If caving in on immigration, the key item that won Trump the Presidency, is not the surrender that Dems want, what do they wish to accomplish? The solutions that have been offered as compromise on immigration are basically the same solutions that led to further and greater illegal immigration. Sounds like surrender.
What immigration reform would increase illegal immigration
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:14 PM   #3
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Path to citizenship for illegals before necessary border protections and penalties for those caught are instituted.
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:32 PM   #4
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Path to citizenship for illegals before necessary border protections and penalties for those caught are instituted.
How does having a path to citizenship for people here increase the number of illegal immigrants
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:00 PM   #5
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If that path is granted before the border is secured, that will encourage more illegals to come with the notion that they too will eventually have a path, as it has consistently done with paths to citizenship without border security in the past. And that is even more so when promised border security does not happen.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:03 PM   #6
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If that path is granted before the border is secured, that will encourage more illegals to come with the notion that they too will eventually have a path, as it has consistently done with paths to citizenship without border security in the past. And that is even more so if promised border security does not happen.
What is the border security that is required
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:06 PM   #7
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How about your beloved "compromise"? You may believe that what Trump wants won't work, but make the compromise. Give him what he wants and you get the path.
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