You guys are disappointing me

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is a fishing site after all, we have a six figure potentially illegal payment of hush money to cover up the affair with an adult actress...and you guys have nothing to say???

Sanders is done by the way. She can't even lie about the lying any more.

Please.

Bill Clinton was accused of rape. Not merely of being serially unfaithful, but of rape (also he made payoffs to at least one of his victims that we know about).

If Bill Clinton ran against the nicest, the most ethical Republican who ever lived, we all know who you would vote for. Which means your outrage is quite selective. Which means it's fake.

Trump is a morally bankrupt reptile. So was his opponent. But it only bothers you, I guess, when conservatives act this way.

If the democrats and their PR wing in the media hadn't unfairly portrayed McCain as a racist, and then unfairly portrayed Romney as a heartless plutocrat who objectified women (for keeping resumes in a binder for Christ's sake), if Obama hadn't called us bitter clingers, if Hilary hadn't called us deplorables, there would be no President Trump.

I'm not saying give anyone a pass. I'm saying be fair. The media can't come close to doing that. So my side nominated someone who could operate in that sleazy sphere, and do so quite effectively. Someone who could absorb the cheap shots without batting an eye, and throw elbows right back. He doesn't merely survive in the ring of mud-slinging, he loves it. That's his briar patch.

You asked for this, you got it. You plant potatoes, guess what? You get potatoes.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Please.

Bill Clinton was accused of rape. Not merely of being serially unfaithful, but of rape (also he made payoffs to at least one of his victims that we know about).

If Bill Clinton ran against the nicest, the most ethical Republican who ever lived, we all know who you would vote for. Which means your outrage is quite selective. Which means it's fake.

Trump is a morally bankrupt reptile. So was his opponent. But it only bothers you, I guess, when conservatives act this way.

If the democrats and their PR wing in the media hadn't unfairly portrayed McCain as a racist, and then unfairly portrayed Romney as a heartless plutocrat who objectified women (for keeping resumes in a binder for Christ's sake), if Obama hadn't called us bitter clingers, if Hilary hadn't called us deplorables, there would be no President Trump.

I'm not saying give anyone a pass. I'm saying be fair. The media can't come close to doing that. So my side nominated someone who could operate in that sleazy sphere, and do so quite effectively. Someone who could absorb the cheap shots without batting an eye, and throw elbows right back. He doesn't merely survive in the ring of mud-slinging, he loves it. That's his briar patch.

You asked for this, you got it. You plant potatoes, guess what? You get potatoes.

I’m confused is what you’re saying that anytime the media reports they should find somebody who did something equally as immoral, illegal or stupid as Trump has done for a comparison since what seems to happen is anytime Trump does something somebody says but Hillary or Obama or but Bill did this
The media reacts the way they do because for years Trump got attention by ranting and campaigning as a birther, about Presidents playing golf, taking vacations, not having gun control, infidelity etc. Funny how they are all things he has or is doing but he bought off his base with smoke and mirrors so they are upset that the media dares to say the Emperor has no clothes.
You probably think he has a nice head of hair.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I’m confused is what you’re saying that anytime the media reports they should find somebody who did something equally as immoral, illegal or stupid as Trump has done for a comparison since what seems to happen is anytime Trump does something somebody says but Hillary or Obama or but Bill did this
The media reacts the way they do because for years Trump got attention by ranting and campaigning as a birther, about Presidents playing golf, taking vacations, not having gun control, infidelity etc. Funny how they are all things he has or is doing but he bought off his base with smoke and mirrors so they are upset that the media dares to say the Emperor has no clothes.
You probably think he has a nice head of hair.
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"I’m confused "

I wish the media would be honest with political candidates, regardless of party. When a candidate does something good, give him credit. When he does something bad, criticize him for it. But hold both parties to the same standard. Foxnews gives a pass to Republicans. Every other media outlet is 100% in the tank for democrats.

John McCain adopted a girl from, I think, Bangladesh, when she was a baby. An amazing act of love and generosity, correct? During the 2008 campaign, the New York Times ran a story suggesting that the girl was actually his biological daughter from an extramarital affair. It wasn't true. This is a man who got kicked in the ribs every day for 4 years, who never regained the full use of his arm after getting shot down, and that's the thanks he gets because he is a Republican. That's what I am talking about.

When Palin was running for VP, the media ran stories that her Down Syndrome baby, was actually not her child, but her grandchild. The media used a Down Syndrome baby as a club to use against someone with whom they disagree.

When Hilary lied about getting shot at in Bosnia, how many in the media held her accountable?


If you have no issue with that, you have that right. But a lot of people got fed up with the unfair attacks, so we (not me, but my side) nominated a guy who doesn't even blink when people treat him this way.

"The media reacts the way they do because for years Trump "

Oh, you are saying media bias is Trump's fault!! I see!!

The media abandoned honesty long before Trump entered politics, when the Iraq War went south. They hated Bush, and their determination to destroy him, was more important than their professional integrity. They haven't even tried to regain that integrity. CNN gave debate questions ahead of time, to their preferred candidate. Some "news" network.

Trump is not the reason why the media was so in the tank for Obama in 08 and 12.

"You probably think he has a nice head of hair"

You know absolutely nothing about me. There's very little about the way he conducts himself, that I like. But I agree with him on policy, far more often than I agree with Hilary. So I plugged my nose and voted for him. It wasn't pleasant, but it was very simple.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

John McCain adopted a girl from, I think, Bangladesh, when she was a baby. An amazing act of love and generosity, correct? During the 2008 campaign, the New York Times ran a story suggesting that the girl was actually his biological daughter from an extramarital affair. It wasn't true. This is a man who got kicked in the ribs every day for 4 years, who never regained the full use of his arm after getting shot down, and that's the thanks he gets because he is a Republican. That's what I am talking about.

Actually that was a whisper campaign started by Karl Rove.

When Palin was running for VP, the media ran stories that her Down Syndrome baby, was actually not her child, but her grandchild. The media used a Down Syndrome baby as a club to use against someone with whom they disagree.

A story that was broken by the mainstream media giant the Anchorage Daily News!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually that was a whisper campaign started by Karl Rove.

[QUTOE]When Palin was running for VP, the media ran stories that her Down Syndrome baby, was actually not her child, but her grandchild. The media used a Down Syndrome baby as a club to use against someone with whom they disagree.

A story that was broken by the mainstream media giant the Anchorage Daily News![/QUOTE]

Karl Rove was smearing Sarah Palin, just after McCain selected her? For what purpose?

And if that's true, was the rest of the media obligated to run with it?


Do you remember Joe The Plumber?

Obama invited him to ask a question...
He asked a question...
Obama answered the question...
America was repulsed by the answer...

So instead of telling us why Obama's answer was the best answer for the country, the left mercilessly attacked the guy who they blamed for making Obama look bad.

That's what I am talking about. Always demonize the other guy, instead of discussing the merits of what each side believes. It wasn't Obama's fault, it was Joe's fault, for accepting Obama's invitation to ask a question. How dare he?

It's a vile tactic, yet sadly effective. The people finally had enough. And you still don't get it.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

A story that was broken by the mainstream media giant the Anchorage Daily News

Karl Rove was smearing Sarah Palin, just after McCain selected her? For what purpose?

And if that's true, was the rest of the media obligated to run with it?


Do you remember Joe The Plumber?

Obama invited him to ask a question...
He asked a question...
Obama answered the question...
America was repulsed by the answer...

So instead of telling us why Obama's answer was the best answer for the country, the left mercilessly attacked the guy who they blamed for making Obama look bad.

That's what I am talking about. Always demonize the other guy, instead of discussing the merits of what each side believes. It wasn't Obama's fault, it was Joe's fault, for accepting Obama's invitation to ask a question. How dare he?

It's a vile tactic, yet sadly effective. The people finally had enough. And you still don't get it.

You keep assuming that what the Conservative news says is America's viewpoint.
Most Americans would have forgotten Hillary, Obama and certainly Bill by now if the person in office did not keep bringing them up to distract from his own failings and inability to have an agenda other than to make sure any thing that his predecessor did was eliminated or soiled, like the bed he slept on in Moscow.

Here's a little time capsule for you, it refers to Sarah Palin, but I would think it still applies.
Expressing the strongest public reservations about the conservative star made by any senior Republican figure, Mr Rove said it was unlikely that voters would regard someone starring in a reality show as presidential material.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Karl Rove was smearing Sarah Palin, just after McCain selected her? For what purpose?

No, Jim just can't keep his own rants straight. Two different election cycles.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Karl Rove was smearing Sarah Palin, just after McCain selected her? For what purpose?

And if that's true, was the rest of the media obligated to run with it?


Do you remember Joe The Plumber?

Obama invited him to ask a question...
He asked a question...
Obama answered the question...
America was repulsed by the answer...

So instead of telling us why Obama's answer was the best answer for the country, the left mercilessly attacked the guy who they blamed for making Obama look bad.

That's what I am talking about. Always demonize the other guy, instead of discussing the merits of what each side believes. It wasn't Obama's fault, it was Joe's fault, for accepting Obama's invitation to ask a question. How dare he?

It's a vile tactic, yet sadly effective. The people finally had enough. And you still don't get it.

You keep assuming that what the Conservative news says is America's viewpoint.
Most Americans would have forgotten Hillary, Obama and certainly Bill by now if the person in office did not keep bringing them up to distract from his own failings and inability to have an agenda other than to make sure any thing that his predecessor did was eliminated or soiled, like the bed he slept on in Moscow.

Here's a little time capsule for you, it refers to Sarah Palin, but I would think it still applies.
Expressing the strongest public reservations about the conservative star made by any senior Republican figure, Mr Rove said it was unlikely that voters would regard someone starring in a reality show as presidential material.[/QUOTE]

"You keep assuming that what the Conservative news says is America's viewpoint"

Never said anything like that in this thread, not even close. I said the media has a huge left-leaning bias. And frustration over that bias, helped Trump. You disagree?

"Most Americans would have forgotten Hillary, Obama and certainly Bill by now if the person in office did not keep bringing them up "

You don't get it. People are tired of the double standard. That's the only reason why they are still part of the conversation, evidence of the glaring double standard.

"inability to have an agenda other than to make sure any thing that his predecessor did was eliminated or soiled"

That's Trump's entire agenda? He hasn't done anything in terms of the economy that's helping people? Nothing?

I'm not a huge Sarah Palin fan, there's all kinds of legitimate ways to criticize her. But you absolutely dodged the point I made, which is that the media used her Down Syndrome baby against her. You have no comment on that, apparently. Fine.