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Old 09-30-2019, 11:36 AM   #31
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pete, so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?
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Here we go again. BUTTERYMALES!!!!!
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What did Hillary do that was unethical?
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:12 PM   #34
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pete brought up russia’s leaking her emails, not me.

i’ll ask you, if russia leaked emails
that said trump did unethical
things, and the emails were accurate,,would you be more concerned about what trump did, or with the fact that russia broke the story?

is anyone denying the accuracy of what was in those emails?
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:14 PM   #35
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What did Hillary do that was unethical?
i don’t even know! but your side
keeps saying that revealing the emails, helped cost her the election. so i presume
something was in there, right? if the leaked emails were about yoga and chelsea’s wedding, no one would be saying it impacted the election.

pete claimed that russia’s leaking the emails, tilted the election in favor of trump. that necessarily means, that what was in the emails, hurt hilary. right?
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:18 PM   #36
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i don’t even know! but your side
keeps saying that revealing the emails, helped cost her the election. so i presume
something was in there, right? if the leaked emails were about yoga and chelsea’s wedding, no one would be saying it impacted the election.

pete claimed that russia’s leaking the emails, tilted the election in favor of trump. that necessarily means, that what was in the emails, hurt hilary. right?
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I asked a serious question. You said "so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?" So I asked bc I wanted to find out what she did.

Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:24 PM   #37
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pete, so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?
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I didn't bring up Hillary
"Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails."
Does that say Hillary's emails?

You did and now you are lost in Hillarian rage again, I see.
While you and Trump apparently do not realize it, she did not win. What threat to our democracy does she pose at this point?

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?

Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.

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Old 09-30-2019, 12:25 PM   #38
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I asked a serious question. You said "so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?" So I asked bc I wanted to find out what she did.

Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.
you did ask a serious question. i don’t know the answer, and admitted that. i never claimed
i had knowledge of what was in the emails.

So pete says that the leaking of the emails hurt her chances of getting elected. From that, i assume
that means there was something bad in the emails.

you disagree?

so Pete says that public knowledge of the emails harmed
her chances of winning, and you don’t concede that means the emails made her look bad?

this is great...
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:26 PM   #39
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Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.
right, right.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:29 PM   #40
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I didn't bring up Hillary
"Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails."
Does that say Hillary's emails?

You did and now you are lost in Hillarian rage again, I see.
While you and Trump apparently do not realize it, she did not win. What threat to our democracy does she pose at this point?

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?

Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.
oh. so which emails were you referring to?

i’ve heard a million times that the leaked Podesta emails
hurt hilary in the election. but you’re saying the emails
don’t reveal anything damaging to her?

hilary is wondering in the woods alone babbling like an idiot, i spend no time thinking of her.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:35 PM   #41
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I didn't bring up Hillary
"Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails."
Does that say Hillary's emails?

You did and now you are lost in Hillarian rage again, I see.
While you and Trump apparently do not realize it, she did not win. What threat to our democracy does she pose at this point?

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?

Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.
oh. so which emails were you referring to?

i’ve heard a million times that the leaked Podesta emails
hurt hilary in the election. but you’re saying the emails
don’t reveal anything unethical. gotcha.
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oh. so which emails were you referring to?

i’ve heard a million times that the leaked Podesta emails
hurt hilary in the election. but you’re saying the emails
don’t reveal anything damaging to her?

hilary is wondering in the woods alone babbling like an idiot, i spend no time thinking of her.
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You really do just repeat talking points with no understanding of the underlying issues.

Hillary's emails were not on the DNC server, they were housed on a server located at her home in Chappaqua, New York.

You are as confused as Trump and Colludy by Russian propaganda.

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?


Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.

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Old 09-30-2019, 12:49 PM   #43
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i am
confused for sure. i’m not talking about her emails
in her home.

i was talking about ( because i thought its what you were referring to) the russian hack of John Podestas email account, shares with wikileaks. when liberals talk about russian interference, this is usually what they mean. and if hilary hadn’t engaged in anything sordid, than publishing those emails could not have damaged her electability.
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i think there’s lots of corruption within the gop. doesnt mean i think trump committed an impeachable
offense.

how many times was there a smoking gun? cohen testimony, tax returns, russian collusion, obstruction of
justice, now this. when you make a certain. umber if false claims, eventually you lose credibility.
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CBS/YouGov now: Does Trump deserve to be impeached, not deserve to be, or too soon to say?
Deserves it 42%
Doesn't deserve 36%
Too soon 22%

CBS/NYT Oct. '98: Do Clinton's actions warrant impeachment/removal?
Yes 37%
No 60%

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Old 09-30-2019, 12:59 PM   #46
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CBS/YouGov now: Does Trump deserve to be impeached, not deserve to be, or too soon to say?
Deserves it 42%
Doesn't deserve 36%
Too soon 22%

CBS/NYT Oct. '98: Do Clinton's actions warrant impeachment/removal?
Yes 37%
No 60%
dun dun dun!

how accurate were those polls in measuring what would happen at the election?

if those polls are accurate, you have nothing to worry about. yet you desperately post every negative tidbit you can find.
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TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY
(per his statements)

1. Those investigating me are traitors and must be put to death.

2. My political enemies must be imprisoned.

3. Those who oppose me who aren't put to death or imprisoned will face armed insurrection by my supporters.

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dun dun dun!

how accurate were those polls in measuring what would happen at the election?

if those polls are accurate, you have nothing to worry about. yet you desperately post every negative tidbit you can find.
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CBS/NYT Oct. '98: Do Clinton's actions warrant impeachment/removal?
Yes 37%
No 60%

These numbers are from a few days after the House voted to impeach Clinton.

It's not by popular vote.

Trump's impeachment will be driven by how people react to the evidence provided, if the Senate thinks that it is politically expedient for him to go, he's gone.
They want to get re-elected, don't be dreaming that it is not political.

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prank call in which Schiff thinks he’s talking to Ukrainian officials, telling them he’d accept any dirt on Trump they could give him.

Is his intent, an impeachable offense?

Let me answer for you: No, because shut up.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop...-in-prank-call
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What did Hillary do that was unethical?
How about screwing over Bernie to start. Or is that acceptable behavior?
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plus getting debate questions ahead of time, some speeches to wall street that were problematic for her, easy to look up.
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prank call in which Schiff thinks he’s talking to Ukrainian officials, telling them he’d accept any dirt on Trump they could give him.

Is his intent, an impeachable offense?

Let me answer for you: No, because shut up.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop...-in-prank-call
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You ought to read stuff before you post it

At the very end of the story, FOX says that Schiff suspected it was a prank, called the FBI before the call, recorded the call, the reported back to FBI afterwards. The implication the it was a secret deal to get dirt is an lie. Once Trump agreed to take Russian help, Putin owned him, and he still does, and Fox helps keep him in power. Shame on them.
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me? who brought up the idea that russian interference hurt hilary, me or you?

you got me good on the schiff story though, clobbered me.
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me? who brought up the idea that russian interference hurt hilary, me or you?

you got me good on the schiff story though, clobbered me.
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You injected Hillary into the discussion
I brought up this, below, and the questions are at the end, they refer to the RNC emails that were hacked and never released?
Could be because there’s nothing there or there is and it’s in use.

What we know:
1 Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails.
2 Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.
3 The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy) jump on the Trump wagon
What does Russia have? What is the level of corruption found?
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You injected Hillary into the discussion
I brought up this, below, and the questions are at the end, they refer to the RNC emails that were hacked and never released?
Could be because there’s nothing there or there is and it’s in use.

What we know:
1 Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails.
2 Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.
3 The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy) jump on the Trump wagon
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so when you bring up russian interference via emails, that’s got nothing to do with Hilary? if you say so.
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How did Hillary screw over Bernie?
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What was the question she got? I believe it was 1 question.

And why were the speeches problematic? Is it bc she refuses to release them and you don't know what she talked about?

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so when you bring up russian interference via emails, that’s got nothing to do with Hilary? if you say so.
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Maybe what was on the RNC server is what Putin will release if Trump discloses their discussions.
The Russians said you better not do that.
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What was the question she got? I believe it was 1 question.

And why were the speeches problematic? Is it bc she refuses to release them and you don't know what she talked about?
bernie wanted speeches released, she resisted.

paul, did your side make a big deal about how the email
release hurt Hilary, or not? can we start there?
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