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Old 03-18-2009, 12:22 PM   #1
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I WARNED YOU

Ok - just got back from a quick errand and had NPR on the radio. It was a panel discussion on bonuses, obviously because of AIG. The entire team bashed wall street pay and the moderator cluelessly lead them one. here is a sample, almost verbatim -
Mod - so say someone in wall st makes 200k annual, whihc is really an average wall st salary (jimmy - yeah, tell that to the 80% of wall st employees in fund accoutning, it, compliance, phones, etc) and they get a 400k bonus. So we hear on the news that they give up their pay for say a 1$. They're still getting 400k so they're not really giving up anything?
Panel: Thats right! Its a big lie.

So back to reality. Im pretty sure 200 + 400 = 600 and they'd actually be giving up 200k. I guess when you're a lynch mob you dont worry about facts. The rest of the 10 minutes was a tirade on how we need to clean up this pay structure and how its unfair and how they hope the government fixes this, etc. Not once, not one single time did they mention that this was for companies that received bailout money! They are talking ALL wall st. companies!

So sure, PaulS and Spence will tell me not to worry, Im a craxy conspiracy therorist and then I get back to the office and read this!
from an interview today with Barney Frank!

"And by the way, that's one of the things I've been working on for several years. It's to go after this whole financial incentive system that they have, whereby if you are working in one of these companies, and you take a risk, and it pays off, you get compensated. If you take a risk and it blows up in everybody's face, you don't lose anything. We have to put an end to this kind of one-way street, heads they win, tails they break even."


Think Im crazy now? Take this with Obamas tax increases, his assualt on the wealthy! the us government has NO right to dictate anyone's salary except for their own employees! This is the begginning of the end of this country. Two months of Obama, I dont think we can survive the rest of his term.

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Old 03-18-2009, 12:32 PM   #2
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:36 PM   #3
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the gov. only wants to lower YOUR salary Jimmy

time to revolt
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:37 PM   #4
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just wait and see

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Old 03-18-2009, 12:52 PM   #5
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I don't have time to wait and see, not with people like Barney Frank as my congressman
preparations have begun
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:58 PM   #6
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and from the O man himself

"Just as outrageous is the culture that these bonuses are a symptom of, that has existed for far too long: excess greed, excess compensation, excess risk-taking," he said. "As we work towards getting ourselves out of recession, I hope that Wall Street and the marketplace don't think that we can return to business as usual. The business models that created a lot of paper wealth but not real wealth in the country and have now resulted in crisis can't be the model for economic growth going forward."

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Old 03-18-2009, 01:01 PM   #7
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more from O

He said he and his economic team have begun discussions with leading congressional players to fast-track legislation creating another regulatory entity to govern the dissolution of large financial institutions such as AIG, which if merely liquidated could reverberate disastrously through the financial system.

Yeah, how'd that fast track work out for you last time?

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Old 03-18-2009, 01:17 PM   #8
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trying not to go off track

but what about sign on bonuses for the military
paltry in comparison i know
but 20 grand to sign up
for a job where you can be killed in action doing it
so what? are they gonna do away with those too???
American taxpayers are paying for those bonuses also

i hear Netherland is Nice
they ship allot of apples here
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:32 PM   #9
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so the yankees and red sox have tons of cash and can hire the best players and pay them enormous salaries. Is that really fair to all the other teams? Maybe O and the O-bots will clamp down on prefessional sports. those guys get huge salaries even though they sometimes dont perform.

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Squirreling away cash? That I understand.
Squirreling away canned goods and guns?

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yep

it's change alright...
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:56 PM   #12
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Squirreling away cash? That I understand.
Squirreling away canned goods and guns?
squirreling away Plugs so when all the eels are gone from everyone eating them for food, I will still have a way to catch bass to eat

where is the best place to put cash? a bank?

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Backyard hole

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Backyard holes in my backyard.

Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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