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Old 09-14-2021, 07:30 AM   #121
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Silly troll, the difference is Trump never fulfilled the office of President. He couldn't take in the data, do the analysis, or lean on the experience & expertise around him to make the decisions required by the office.
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yet pre-covid...things were pretty good
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:46 AM   #122
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yet pre-covid...things were pretty good
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Rand Paul?: A Kentucky man has died in a car accident. He was wearing his seatbelt, which raises questions about their effectiveness ó and whether the federal government has curtailed freedom too much. Patriots will resist seatbelt tyranny!

One important note, while some voters are frustrated with Biden, very few regretted their vote against Trump.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:32 AM   #123
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:44 AM   #124
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yet pre-covid...things were pretty good
post covid, things were also pretty good. Gallup does a poll every 4 years during presidential election years, asking people if theyíre better off than 4 years ago.

When Gallup did that poll late in 2020, a record number of americans said they were better off than 4 years ago. Even during a pandemic, a record number of americans said they were better off than under Obama.

Have fun asking a liberal to comment on that. iíve tried.

America liked his policies, but more than that, they disliked his disgusting antics.

Thatís why Desantis terrifies them. Heís Trump without the easily attack-able moral flaws.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/4747228002

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Old 09-15-2021, 12:18 PM   #125
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Sure Jim, but the poll that counts was conducted in the election.
It seems honesty and morals count more to others than to you.

Most Americans are not impressed by the Lardfather.

As far as your latest mini-Trump goes if only someone had warned the world about DeSantis 18 months ago.

COVID-19 death reporting by FL-DOH continues to confound reporters and scientists. There are 3 ways to calculate FL death and we explain the differences in this blog post:
https://covid19odds.com/covid-19-rep...an-fl-and-cdc/

Newsom should send fruit-baskets to Abbott & DeSantis.
Californians decided they rather live w/high taxes, high incomes, the seventh biggest GDP in the world and a guy who eats at The French Laundry, than under mini-Trumpís, exploiting COVID and controlling womenís uteruses.

Rand Paul?: A Kentucky man has died in a car accident. He was wearing his seatbelt, which raises questions about their effectiveness ó and whether the federal government has curtailed freedom too much. Patriots will resist seatbelt tyranny!

One important note, while some voters are frustrated with Biden, very few regretted their vote against Trump.
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:19 PM   #126
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Sure Jim, but the poll that counts was conducted in the election.
It seems honesty and morals count more to others than to you.

Most Americans are not impressed by the Lardfather.

As far as your latest mini-Trump goes if only someone had warned the world about DeSantis 18 months ago.

COVID-19 death reporting by FL-DOH continues to confound reporters and scientists. There are 3 ways to calculate FL death and we explain the differences in this blog post:
https://covid19odds.com/covid-19-rep...an-fl-and-cdc/

Newsom should send fruit-baskets to Abbott & DeSantis.
Californians decided they rather live w/high taxes, high incomes, the seventh biggest GDP in the world and a guy who eats at The French Laundry, than under mini-Trumpís, exploiting COVID and controlling womenís uteruses.
"the poll that counts was conducted in the election."

Um, yes I know. My point (sorry that it went over your head) is that a conservative who would govern like Trump did, but who isn't a lunatic, would be much more formidable of an opponent, which is why your side calls Governor Desantis "Governor Death Sentence" despite the fact that his death rates are lower than those in NY, which was led by the guy you all said was the gold standard.

"It seems honesty and morals count more to others than to you."

Like you? Ive said 100 times that Trump is disgusting. Not one of the lefties here, condemned eggs getting thrown at Larry Elder. So which one of us can put politics aside to say what's wrong, and which one of us cannot? I don't need lessons from anyone here who goes after someone elses daughters, so spare me your fake concern about morals.

"Most Americans are not impressed by the Lardfather."

I don't know who you mean, but your concern for honesty and morals seems to come and go, doesn't it?

"if only someone had warned the world about DeSantis 18 months ago."

Yes, why would anyone want to learn lessons from a state that stayed open, a state whose kids stayed in school, yet a state which has a death rate lower than many liberal states that closed down and shuttered schools, despite that state having a massive elderly population. A state with a booming economy despite low taxes, a state that tons of people and businesses are fleeing to, a state not experiencing a huge spike in violent crime (like blue state are experiencing). God forbid we have more of that!

What terrific arguments you're making. Please tell us more!
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Old 09-15-2021, 02:39 PM   #127
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Feds say they have surveillance video from TWO local hotels in the accused Jan 6 OathKeepers conspiracy case among their evidence

Note some conspirators are accused of staging firearms at hotel in Ballston, Va as part of "Quick Reaction Force"
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Old 09-15-2021, 03:33 PM   #128
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Like you? Ive said 100 times that Trump is disgusting. Not one of the lefties here, condemned eggs getting thrown at Larry Elder. So which one of us can put politics aside to say what's wrong, and which one of us cannot? I don't need lessons from anyone here who goes after someone elses daughters, so spare me your fake concern about morals.
Well, I said she's a kook so I'm glad you're not associating me with the lefties.

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Yes, why would anyone want to learn lessons from a state that stayed open, a state whose kids stayed in school, yet a state which has a death rate lower than many liberal states that closed down and shuttered schools, despite that state having a massive elderly population. A state with a booming economy despite low taxes, a state that tons of people and businesses are fleeing to, a state not experiencing a huge spike in violent crime (like blue state are experiencing). God forbid we have more of that!
Jim, Florida went to distance learning during Covid.

Jim, Covid is ravaging red states much more than blue right now.

Jim, the Florida economy is growing because of Baby Boomer relocation.

Jim, aside from IL and MD the worst states for violent crime are in the South.

You're speaking out of your a$$.
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"the poll that counts was conducted in the election."

Um, yes I know. My point (sorry that it went over your head) is that a conservative who would govern like Trump did, but who isn't a lunatic, would be much more formidable of an opponent, which is why your side calls Governor Desantis "Governor Death Sentence" despite the fact that his death rates are lower than those in NY, which was led by the guy you all said was the gold standard.

Only a lunatic would ignore a pandemic and it's interesting that you cite Cuomo, the other governor to falsify Covid data and then claim some baloney. Death Sentence won by less people than died in Florida of Covid

"It seems honesty and morals count more to others than to you."

Like you? Ive said 100 times that Trump is disgusting. (you found his honesty and morals acceptable, said you would have no problem working for him) Not one of the lefties here, condemned eggs getting thrown at Larry Elder. So which one of us can put politics aside to say what's wrong, and which one of us cannot? I don't need lessons from anyone here who goes after someone elses daughters, so spare me your fake concern about morals. Once again you play your games, go back and look. I can go back for you if you want

"Most Americans are not impressed by the Lardfather."

I don't know who you mean, but your concern for honesty and morals seems to come and go, doesn't it? Sure you don't, TFG's approval rating is still the same

"if only someone had warned the world about DeSantis 18 months ago."

Yes, why would anyone want to learn lessons from a state that stayed open (Come relax, no Need to vax), a state whose kids stayed in school(School districts in Florida have mandated that masks be worn in schools, defying orders from their Republican state governors that ban districts from imposing such rules. The administration of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has threatened to withhold funding from districts that impose mask requirements), yet a state which has a death rate lower than many liberal states that closed down and shuttered schools (Only lower than the several high density states that were hit early, don't worry DeSantis is well on his way to catching up), despite that state having a massive elderly population. A state with a booming economy despite low taxes (40th in GDP per capita and the same growth as California) , a state that tons of people and businesses are fleeing to(Thanks to hurricanes, heat and red-hot home prices, the stateís population growth hit its lowest rate since 2014 during the pandemic), a state not experiencing a huge spike in violent crime (like blue state are experiencing)(Tampa Bay Times headline Murder, violent crime spike in Florida). God forbid we have more of that!

What terrific arguments you're making. Please tell us more!
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Rand Paul?: A Kentucky man has died in a car accident. He was wearing his seatbelt, which raises questions about their effectiveness ó and whether the federal government has curtailed freedom too much. Patriots will resist seatbelt tyranny!

One important note, while some voters are frustrated with Biden, very few regretted their vote against Trump.
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Jim, Florida went to distance learning during Covid.

Jim, Covid is ravaging red states much more than blue right now.

Jim, the Florida economy is growing because of Baby Boomer relocation.

Jim, aside from IL and MD the worst states for violent crime are in the South.

You're speaking out of your a$$.
Yes FL schools closed for awhile. they opened back up WAY before lost other states. iím sorry if you donít happen to like that fact.

FL has had some terrible weeks. what matters more, inception to date death rates, or last weeks death rates? FL has to be awesome every single week? If FLs inception to death rates put it in the top 3 or top 5, iíll be the first one to criticize.

ďĒThe FL economy is booming because of boomer relocation.Ē

that used to be true, the vast majority of FL transplants were retirees. not anymore. sorry.
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Old 09-15-2021, 05:09 PM   #131
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Jim, the Florida economy is growing because of Baby Boomer relocation.



You're speaking out of your a$$.
i asked you this before, and you ran away. why arenít seniors retiring to sunny california?

Retirees are great residents to have. they pay taxes, and donít have kids in public school, which is any towns biggest expense. Retirees are therefore a gold mine.

Therefore, making your state attractive to retirees, is a sign of effective leadership, isnít? Similarly, making your state an impossible
place for retirees indicates lousy leadership.

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Old 09-15-2021, 05:26 PM   #132
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reported by the right wing nuts at Vox, a study on the impact of voter is laws done by the right wing nuts at Yale, Stanford, and UPennÖ.found little
impact of voter id laws.

i want open and fair elections. show me that ids are more cumbersome for
blacks ( forced to walk up more
flights of stairs, longer lines, etc) and iíll be on board.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...oter-id-racism
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All the people I know that claimed Florida as their residence, did it for one or both of two reasons
Itís warm
Thereís no income tax
Theyíre not there for the opportunity
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All the people I know that claimed Florida as their residence, did it for one or both of two reasons
Itís warm
Thereís no income tax
Theyíre not there for the opportunity
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(1) California is also warm. Why arenít they moving there.

(2) if having low taxes attracts more residents, then isnít it a sign of effective leadership when a state can manage to not have an income tax, yet offer enough services to make people want to live there?

(3) ďthe people you knowĒ arenít a meaningful sample, sorry. I know retirees who have moved there for the weather, and i know younger white collar workers who lived there for the opportunity to have a similar ( if not better) quality of life at a far lower cost.
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Itís warm
Thereís no income tax
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For your much-needed education.

Businesses, including Goldman Sachs ( ever herd of them, Pete?) are setting up a presence in Florida.

Just because you donít personally know someone who experiences something ( or more likely, you do know someone who moved there but canít admit it for political reasons), doesnít mean that experience isnt taking place.

I donít know anyone who plays for the New York Yankees, that doesnít mean I can say that thereís no such team.

https://www.bipc.com/4-reasons-why-b...ing-to-florida
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Poor little man
Everyone knows
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so one guy you like, doesnít like FL, and that negates all the positive statistics about FL.

Hard to imagine why so many block you.
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One important note, while some voters are frustrated with Biden, very few regretted their vote against Trump.
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