Glad I'm not a native of Puerto Rico

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

how did I defend it?

"being a complete knucklehead"

just said he's been this way for a very long time and it's always worked for him, what motivation would he have to change and why would you expect different?

in which calling someone a "complete knucklehead", is defending him.

[wdmso]

We can't get water and food to PR in 12 days .. but some making excuses on the why's it's taken so long. Are the same people who expected the government and the military to prevent the 4 deaths in benghazi in 13 hours it's only easy in the movies

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

We can't get water and food to PR in 12 days .. but some making excuses on the why's it's taken so long. Are the same people who expected the government and the military to prevent the 4 deaths in benghazi in 13 hours it's only easy in the movies

"We can't get water and food to PR in 12 days"

Some say there's lots of water and food there. What if the people who say otherwise (and that's a very big 'if' at the moment), are only saying so, to make him look bad? Other mayors are saying that significant aid is there.

It's like this nutjob librarian in Mass who turned down Melania Trump's books because she says, Cat in a Hat is racist. I am sure she considers herself a liberal hero for saying that. But as we now know, she's a hypocrite, as there are photos of her dressed as Cat in a Hat, reading that book to kids.

People hate this guy, in a way we haven't seen before. No doubt, he brings a lot of that on himself. But the response he triggers, well, we haven't seen anything like it before. No matter what he does, he's wrong, and evil, and racist, and Hitler.

I'm not defending the federal response to PR. I'm saying that the answer you get about the aid sent, depends a lot upon who you ask.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

We can't get water and food to PR in 12 days .. but some making excuses on the why's it's taken so long. Are the same people who expected the government and the military to prevent the 4 deaths in benghazi in 13 hours it's only easy in the movies

SO Navy stages three Gators their before the storm, starts prep. Then leaves to avoid the storm, comes back next day and starts moving gear. They start ramping up the Mercy (which takes 10 days I'm told) and getting hospital staff up and provisions which can't stay on ship. AF and guard units started prep to move down.

Side note, the Mercy Hospital ship was mostly excess and did very little in Katrina or Haiti earthquake.

Was it enough, fast enough? No. But is more than anything they've had to do in years. There was no infrastructure to move much of anything, roads are wiped out, little communications. The only way to move stuff was rotary wing and that does not move a lot.

But the Navy has less ships and manpower than since before WW2 and they are severely stretched as it is. But they still went.

Do they get an A? No. C+ ? Probably.

Maybe a C- when you put Trump's statements in.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by JohnR

But the Navy has less ships and manpower than since before WW2 and they are severely stretched as it is. But they still went.

And most of us know why that is right?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

And most of us know why that is right?

That's a scary problem or reality in today's environment
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

And most of us know why that is right?

Sure - 5 years of continuing resolutions after a 10% budget slash after spending money on stupid sh!t. Lump in REALLY bad decisions by Navy requirements (LCS, DDG1000), cutting the fleet without suitable replacement (Sprucane Cans and Perry FF(-g) ), mix in green fuels and Social Justice Warrior training....

Totally unrelated to this thread:

​The Defense Department is delaying the deployment of additional US forces to Afghanistan as a result of the “finite number” of US transportation aircraft, which are currently in high demand Stateside following the recent hurricanes in Texas, Florida, and Puerto Rico, the Pentagon said Thursday.

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, in testimony earlier this week, said the military’s response to storms such as Hurricane Maria has shown it is “all hands on deck” in helping American citizens. This, in turn, is delaying future operations

http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/...ployments.aspx