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Old 11-06-2010, 09:13 AM   #61
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unnecessary and expensive dog and phony show strategically timed

There are no 34 warships going. It is not $200 mil per day.

You know I am not a big O fan by any stretch - this one he should do. Though skip the tunnel and Coconuts.

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Old 11-06-2010, 10:27 AM   #62
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MUMBAI, India — President Barack Obama announced a host of new trade deals with India supporting tens of thousands of U.S. jobs Saturday as he began a 10-day trip through Asia on a determinedly domestic note.

Intent on demonstrating his attention to the sluggish U.S. economy even while overseas, Obama also told a meeting of U.S. and Indian executives that the U.S. would relax some export regulations that have complicated trade between America and this fast-growing country of 1.2 billion people.
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HOCUS POCUS.

come back here next year and show me the jobs this created HERE.

I will buy you a steak dinner.
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:44 AM   #64
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While Bush was focused on his social engineering project China was locking in contracts. We're already at a disadvantage in this regard.

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As is the case with U.S. national-security matters, Obama, if he is clever enough to do so, has the opportunity here to profit from sound investments made by the administration of George W. Bush, whose cultivation of New Delhi was one of the great unsung diplomatic success stories of the era. The Bush administration’s careful negotiation of the U.S.-India nuclear accord was the key to thawing the sometimes chilly relationship between the world’s two largest democratic republics, an unhappy relic of India’s regrettable Cold War cuddling with the Soviet Union, back when socialism was chic.
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You know I am not a big O fan by any stretch - this one he should do. .
I can appreciate you position John, as someone who can see the political center from your livingroom

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I can appreciate you position John, as someone who can see the political center from your livingroom

Barack Obama, Dealmaker - The Editors - National Review Online

And your point is ? Can't tell if that was snarky or not

(and yes, you won't hear from the left how much of the groundwork was laid out by Bush admin or how the Bush admin has probably prevented 2 wars between Pak and India)

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And your point is ? Can't tell if that was snarky or not

(and yes, you won't hear from the left how much of the groundwork was laid out by Bush admin or how the Bush admin has probably prevented 2 wars between Pak and India)
no, not snarky...you mentioned recently that you could at least "still see the center"....perhaps suggesting that I cannot so I was appreciating your perspective coming from someone that might be more "centered"...and then a little Sarah Palin humor thrown in
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put EDWINA back in da bowl

"The commercial deals he announced include the purchase of 33 737s from Boeing by India's SpiceJet Airlines; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17s.

For the most part, the deals were already pending, but the White House contends Obama's visit to India helped finalize them. Officials said the deals would support 53,670 U.S. jobs, but it was not clear how many, if any, new jobs would be created as a result."

I'll stand by what I said earlier. So the Govt spent $100 million to send his highness and his royal queen over there and it was already penned.

Sure. All hail King Obama.

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10 c17s keep that line open for a while - ge engines keep lots of jobs open
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Bomb-proof tunnel with air conditioning: Obama's security go to extraordinary measures for his tour of the Gandhi museum
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:08 PM on 6th November 2010


American warships to patrol off Mumbai during visit
Coconuts removed from trees as a precaution

250 U.S. business executives with Obama on 'biggest ever trade mission'
$200million Asia trip cost denied but the President will have huge entourage

President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle arrived in India's commercial hub of Mumbai on Saturday, days after voters punished his Democrats in mid-term elections.
Probably not since the days of the Pharaohs or the more ludicrous Roman Emperors has a head of state travelled in such pomp and expensive grandeur as the President of the United States of America.
While lesser mortals – the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and so on – are usually happy to let their hosts handle most of the security and transport arrangements when they venture beyond their home shores, the United States creates a mini-America on the move to ensure that nothing is left to chance.

The President and First Lady clasped hands as they arrived in Mumbai Saturday morning with their huge entourage

Obama arrives in India at the start of a ten-day tour of Asia. At the heart of the White House caravan is ‘The Beast’, a gigantic, ‘pimped-up’ General Motors Cadillac which security experts say is, short of an actual battle tank, probably the safest road vehicle on the planet.
But an outlandish car is only the start. Mr Obama will fly, of course, on Air Force One, the presidential private jumbo jet, which, boasting double beds and suites, is fitted out more like a luxury yacht. Some reports suggest it costs around $50,000 (£31,000) an hour to operate.

Of course threats can come from any direction, so a squadron of U.S. naval ships will patrol offshore. Some reports have claimed that 34 ships, including two aircraft carriers, will be involved (not far off the size of the Royal Navy’s entire Surface Fleet) but the White House has denied this.
The pair were greeted wtih flowers and gifts as they stepped off the plane

On land, as well as The Beast, Mr Obama’s entourage will travel in a fleet of 45 U.S.-built armoured limousines, half of which will be decoys. He will also travel with 30 elite sniffer dogs, mostly German Shepherds.
The White House has, according to some reports, booked the entire Taj Mahal Palace Hotel in Mumbai, the city’s most luxurious. It is not uncommon for the grander heads of state to reserve a floor or two, but a whole hotel is unprecedented.

Read more: Obama's India visit security erect a bomb proof tunnel at the Gandhi museum | Mail Online
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My company is a big supplier to GE aircraft, and GE sources a lot of components from many companies right here in New England.

Not only that, but there's a huge strategic aspect to this. If India is going to source military aircraft from the US rather than France or Russia it's a signal of a serious long-term alignment.

Salty can bitch all he wants about trivial or false stories he's consumed himself with on Drudge, but the fact still remains that Obama looks to be doing the right thing to further American interests.

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But he still is spending at least 5 million a day maybe as high as 20 million to go play spank the monkey with the missus.

And THAT you can't deny Spence.
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like I said...Crony Capitalists

Crony Capitalist of the Month: Jeffrey Immelt

By Jeff Harding, on September 24th, 2010

The Daily Capitalist is kicking off the first in a monthly series of the Crony Capitalist of the Month. In it we will feature mainline “capitalists” who see government favors to support their businesses. This series starts off with General Electric’s Jeff Immelt.

If you wonder why the economy is stagnating, one reason is crony capitalism whereby businesses align with the government to create policies that are favorable to their industries. Usually benefits such as tax breaks or government contracts are awarded to these government favored industries. Capital is thereby diverted to enterprises that, but for the favors, wouldn’t be economically viable. Thus capital which is needed by businesses that are profitable is reduced, which reduces economic growth.

Crony capitalists use rhetoric that is often high-toned and talk in generalities about certain “essential” industries and ”national goals” that “we” need in America or otherwise “America” will lose out. They favor government handouts because it is in their benefit and because they can’t compete in the open market. ”America” isn’t falling behind the competition, GE is falling behind:


The remarks came as GE is facing tougher competition around the world from rivals in the markets for renewable and nuclear energy that the company believes get more help from their governments.

“The rest of the world is moving 10 times faster than we are,” Mr. Immelt said, referring to the U.S. during a speech at the Gridwise Global Forum. “This is a great country. But, you know, we have to have an energy policy. This is just stupid what we have today.” …

GE has long expressed frustration with what it sees as a lack of government support for new energy technologies in the U.S. and for sales of nuclear power and other technologies overseas. The conglomerate’s nuclear unit has won little business in the current round of reactor development around the world, and its wind-power unit faces heavy competition from Chinese manufacturers.
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Accompanied by his swans, bears and tapestries, he moved continually from one of his castles to another...taking part in local processions and pilgrimages, visiting monasteries, enjoying wine harvests in autumn, and sending home to the Duchess on one occasion in June new peas, cherries and 78 ripe pears....The funds to gratify his tastes were wrung from the people of Auvergne, and of Languedoc when he was its governor, by the heaviest taxation in France of his time, sowing the hatred and misery that resulted in the insurrection of Montpellier and his own recall.
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But he still is spending at least 5 million a day maybe as high as 20 million to go play spank the monkey with the missus.

And THAT you can't deny Spence.
Any President probably burns a few million a day just hanging around the Oval Office, domestic trips.

The fact is he's furthering American interests, representing us at the G20 etc...this is his job as our leader.

You just want to bitch and whine.

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Any President probably burns a few million a day just hanging around the Oval Office, domestic trips.

The fact is he's furthering American interests, representing us at the G20 etc...this is his job as our leader.

You just want to bitch and whine.

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Crony capitalists use rhetoric that is often high-toned and talk in generalities about certain “essential” industries and ”national goals” that “we” need in America or otherwise “America” will lose out.
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Ok yea you got me.



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Any President probably burns a few million a day just hanging around the Oval Office, domestic trips.

The fact is he's furthering American interests, representing us at the G20 etc...this is his job as our leader.

You just want to bitch and whine.

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"His visit may appear to be popular among Indian people, but much of Mumbai's workforce can't wait for Barack Obama to leave.
Taxi drivers, street vendors and fishermen have complained they can barely afford to eat after the city was turned into a fortress for the state visit.
All major roads have been blocked in India's financial capital - leaving taxi drivers without work for five days.
Sandeep Jaiswal, 22, said he had earned just £2 in five days - compared with £21 on a normal day.

'We have been left out of business. Because of him we are sitting idle for days now.
'First of all I was excited the American President was coming to my city but now I request him to leave us as soon as possible so that we could earn our bread and butter.'

Fishermen have been banned from the coastline in case of attack from the sea and shopkeepers have complained about having to shut during the busy Diwali period."
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just found this in the NY Times... interesting title

November 5, 2010, 7:41 am
Obama Recasts Asia Trip as Jobs Mission
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Talk about bad timing.

Just days after American voters sent President Obama a blunt and angry message about their desire to see him do more to fix the economy, Mr. Obama was preparing to head overseas on Friday morning on a 10-day foreign trip to Asia.

The president will go to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan on a mission that will involve issues of global security, international trade and economics, improving cultural ties, preventing terrorism and some personal diplomacy. He will dine with foreign leaders, give a speech about Muslim outreach and attend summits on global finance.

But in the days since the midterm elections, Mr. Obama and his senior aides have found a much more simple way to describe the purpose of the trip.

It’s about American jobs, they say.
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If the pres doesn't go do this as a high-profile effort. Who should - Dept of Commerce, Foreign Affairs, State

I think it legit and good use of the office.

Now if he would only let us get the F out of Aghanistan by letting India and Pakistan play it would really help our deficeit
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The simplest way he could have created American jobs with out going to India, is to penalize American companies who ship their jobs over seas.

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Gibbs threatens to pull Obama from India talks after press dispute

Why would Gibbs have the decision/authority to pull the President from talks with India? Who is working for who here?

Gibbs threatens to pull Obama from India talks after press dispute | The Upshot Yahoo! News

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The simplest way he could have created American jobs with out going to India, is to penalize American companies who ship their jobs over seas.
just curious, under what right? Tell me what gives the president authority to do this? That my friends is beyond socialism, thats dictatorship.
I see 5000 people with 5000 ipods a day, every one of them made in China. Why doesnt the American public boycott Apple? No, of course not, we sit around and bitch and wait for the governement to do something. As long as its profitable to send jobs overseas, companys will do so, shareholders want a profitable company and thats what CEOs get paid to provide.
The president could make changes to corp taxes, labor laws, trade laws, or other tax laws that benefit keeping manufacturing in the US. But the average workers would scream and cry and it will never take hold.

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Labor groups who backed Manchin over Republican John Raese are pushing hard for passage of the Paycheck Fairness Act. The bill, already passed by the House, would require employers who have facilities in multiple states to pay all their employees the same wage.

It would be a coup for unions, because it would reduce the appeal of right-to-work states to companies looking to add or relocate plants. One union contract anywhere would set pay rates nationwide.


and you wonder why companies send work overseas??????????????

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Bedspreads, Ganeshas, toys...Michelle can't stop buying at crafts museum : India

She can't stop spending just like her husband.

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dancing....shopping...trashing the US...must be a really important trip....the folks at home must be quite proud......I can't think of anyone more qualified to lead this important mission....
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did you see his explanation of "jihad"
he went into this lawyer like overview trying to be politically correct. it was sad.

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did you see his explanation of "jihad"
he went into this lawyer like overview trying to be politically correct. it was sad.
ahhh.....errr...ummmm...and ahhhh...he never answered the little girl's question.....Sans-a-Prompter
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