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Old 01-04-2018, 09:48 AM   #1
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Republicans wanted and impeached Clinton for lying under oath about a BJ let me say again lying about a BJ ...trump lying no big deal ..

But the current Republicans and Trump supporters proclaim where's the proof ... when its Crystal clear they will only wont accept the Truth rather only the truth they want to see ...

it shows here all the time Benghazi, the uranium deal , the Clinton foundation .. over and over... each one has been de bunked at every turn .. but still breath life on the right .. facts dont matter

now Bannon book is out .. this is what happens when you dont pay your bills
This is why I am no longer a Democrat; "standards are for thee not for me"

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Not much - we already knew she was a horrible candidate, a miserable person, and a not so smart mob boss. But it did put more reference in for the True Believers like you

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Old 01-04-2018, 09:51 AM   #2
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Not much - we already knew she was a horrible candidate, a miserable person, and a not so smart mob boss. But it did put more reference in for the True Believers like you
Not the best candidate I'd agree. I know someone who has worked with her extensively and says she's an amazing leader, more like an elite CEO than a politician. If she's really a mob boss I'd say she must be brilliant to not get pinned down with all the scandals thrown at her.
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Not the best candidate I'd agree. I know someone who has worked with her extensively and says she's an amazing leader, more like an elite CEO than a politician.
There are those who say the same thing about Trump.
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There are those who say the same thing about Trump.

I am still not convinced who was the worst candidate

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Old 01-04-2018, 10:14 AM   #5
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Here's the thing for me, it is not about the character of either one. It is about which one would be the better or worse regarding the nature of how we are governed. About the character of the system of government we have. About whether we live in a constitutional republic, or under an unassailable administrative state.

A republic, under our Constitution, can survive bad characters. It has already done that several times. Bad characters don't go away. And the power hungry ones drift into politics. A strong system of checks and balances protects our freedom from their usurpation of it.

And no matter how "good" the character of a politician is, if he or she is about instilling a system of governance in which those who are "good," in their own estimation, have the power to direct and control our lives because they know better than us, I don't want them near the levers of power.

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I am still not convinced who was the worst candidate
You can debate who is the more disgusting person. In terms of running the country? No comparison. Neil Gorsich in the Supreme Court, stock market up, wages up, unemployment down. Major tax reform that will let people keep more of their money, as opposed to Obama, who passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill that did nothing that I can see.
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Not the best candidate I'd agree. I know someone who has worked with her extensively and says she's an amazing leader, more like an elite CEO than a politician. If she's really a mob boss I'd say she must be brilliant to not get pinned down with all the scandals thrown at her.

Hahaha - the Wikileak emails quote her top staff saying she is her own worst enemy and her ideas suck. Terrible Instincts.

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On the same day that news of a private email server broke, John Podesta, who later became her campaign chairman, emailed Neera Tanden, who worked for the Clinton campaign in 2008 and has remained a close adviser, to complain about Mrs Clinton's "instincts".

"We've taken on a lot of water that won't be easy to pump out of the boat", he wrote in September 2015 as Clinton staff feared that Vice President Joe Biden would join the Democratic primary race.

"Most of that has to do with terrible decisions made pre-campaign, but a lot has to do with her instincts," he wrote, to which Mrs Tanden responded: "Almost no one knows better [than] me that her instincts can be terrible."

In the email exchange, Mr Podesta also complained that Clinton's personal lawyer David Kendall, and former State Department staffers Cheryl Mills and Philippe Reines "sure weren't forthcoming here on the facts here". Mrs Tanden responds "Why didn't' they get this stuff out like 18 months ago? So crazy."

She later answered her own question saying, "I guess I know the answer. They wanted to get away with it."
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