Donald Trump attacks 'media hostility' after mail bombs

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

snarky

Once in a while 😁
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[Raider Ronnie]

Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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Hey, you might be correct

The left has a long ways to go to catch up with the right or Islamists.

The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was 1 in 33 million per year.
The annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year.
The chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack committed by an Islamist during this period was about 1 in 2.5 million per year

Source
https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-...sville-anomaly

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Hey, you might be correct

The left has a long ways to go to catch up with the right or Islamists.

The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was 1 in 33 million per year.
The annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year.
The chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack committed by an Islamist during this period was about 1 in 2.5 million per year

Source
https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-...sville-anomaly

Who is bankrupting the state of Connecticut?

A) Republicans
B) Democrats
C) Islamists

Who throws more politically motivated riots? Who throws more bricks through windows when they don't get what they want? Who forces more college speakers to hide behind security?
Who never, ever stops claiming that everyone else is racist?

I'm not talking about the terrorists on either side, I am talking about the mainstream people on either side.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Who is bankrupting the state of Connecticut?

A) Republicans
B) Democrats
C) Islamists

Who throws more politically motivated riots? Show me a Democratic riot, Trump acknowledges republican mobs are rioting in california in protest of sanctuary cities
Who throws more bricks through windows when they don't get what they want? Better bricks than bombs, but the left has no monopoly on brick throwing
Who forces more college speakers to hide behind security?
"Knock the crap out of them, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees."
Who never, ever stops claiming that everyone else is racist?
The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis. The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories.

I'm not talking about the terrorists on either side, I am talking about the mainstream people on either side.

The other problem with your argument for civility, when it’s taken as far as prohibiting moral condemnation of politicians, is that it empowers defenders of the status quo while neutering critics.
There are two basic forms of political argument. Either you defend a specific policy as the rational, logical option in the circumstances that exist, or you question the rules of the game. People on the political right are prone to presenting things such as spending cuts as morally neutral decisions, determined by economic reality. Leftwing criticism commonly argues that logic presented as natural is really no such thing, but rather that it’s a question of priorities. Political priorities are, unavoidably, a moral issue.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The other problem with your argument for civility, when it’s taken as far as prohibiting moral condemnation of politicians, is that it empowers defenders of the status quo while neutering critics.
There are two basic forms of political argument. Either you defend a specific policy as the rational, logical option in the circumstances that exist, or you question the rules of the game. People on the political right are prone to presenting things such as spending cuts as morally neutral decisions, determined by economic reality. Leftwing criticism commonly argues that logic presented as natural is really no such thing, but rather that it’s a question of priorities. Political priorities are, unavoidably, a moral issue.

when you ask me to specify a single left wing riot, meaning you can’t think of any, you lose the ability to be taken seriously. look at what happens every time a conservative tried to speak on a college campus, everything antifa does, look at the people
banging on the senate doors during the kavanaugh hearings, black lives matter, what happened in ferguson when the white cop was acquitted, how many do you need exactly?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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And yet Dems. Have more educ. And make $ on average (even when you take into account more poor people vote D than R).
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis.

This is stupid gibberish. It's as if you are drunk when you write this junk.


The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories

You keep repeating this race baiting crap. Again as if wallowing in the sloppy, self righteous certainty of a drunken stupor.

No one comes close to how Trump has split this country

This is the height of uncorroborated hearsay. This doesn't come close to being true. It is the kind of purely vicious hate that helps to split this country.

To claim that college students, those uppity black people, a representative or anyone else has the power that Trump wields in the media is absurd

This is an absurdly ignorant rant that sounds like the incoherent rambling of someone in the grip of potent weed. You're so far out of the realm of sober, intelligent thought that you not only have visions of race in every nook and cranny, you actually see Trump wielding power in the media. The mainstream leftist media is unbridled in its attacks on Trump. In what smoky field of contact high are you discerning this power that Trump wields in the media? Do you mean twitter? The media is stupid enough to print what he twitter's. That's his power? The media's stupidity is the power he wields?

You poor victim
We will be reaping what he has sown for a generation

This reeks of the lamentations of a defeated, staggering, homeless man flailing at invisible bogymen with one hand while the other is tilting the brown bagged bottle of Boone's Farm into his begging mouth.

These asassination attempts have no precedent, meanwhile Trump’s rallies continue chanting threats, to his grinning approval
You’re complicit in this
Sad

You see monsters in your Goya-like twisted sleep of reason gone wrong. It would be better for you if you could woke.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You see monsters in your Goya-like twisted sleep of reason gone wrong. It would be better for you if you could woke.

And you think I’m intoxicated?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And you think I’m intoxicated?
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I think you are insane

[Pete F.]

It’s quite comical who you think I am, since I’ve voted pretty straight party line for most of my 60+ years until the last election
The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s quite comical who you think I am, since I’ve voted pretty straight party line for most of my 60+ years until the last election
The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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Why did you used to be a Republican?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?

You're trying to have a conversation with an intellectual drunk who can't quite put his finger on exactly the what and how is, but floats generalized ideas explained by unverified labels.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You're trying to have a conversation with an intellectual drunk

that was pretty funny

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?

Trump took the Tea Party rhetoric and did a much better job of playing on the fears of people.
Now the Republican party is repeating the mistakes of the Goldwater era.
Those mistakes brought, in the next few terms, all the progressive evils that conservatives now rail about.
Few Americans have all extreme views, left or right, which is why things always come back towards the center.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump took the Tea Party rhetoric and did a much better job of playing on the fears of people.
Now the Republican party is repeating the mistakes of the Goldwater era.
Those mistakes brought, in the next few terms, all the progressive evils that conservatives now rail about.
Few Americans have all extreme views, left or right, which is why things always come back towards the center.

Your typical vague statement loaded with labels and memes that somehow are supposed to take the place of verification.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Until Trump I was a Republican
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yes there are lots of before trump republicans that spend all of their time cutting and pasting from whacko left wing websites to support leftist causes

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

yes there are lots of trump republicans that spend all of their time cutting and pasting from whacko rightwing websites to support rightwing causes

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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

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