Is the Government going to legalize it?

[Strider]

Yaaaaaa Mannnnn! We be takin doobie snacks

[t.orlando]

They sure should.....Think of all the cool tye-dye plug patterns.

[Flaptail]

It's 100% percent natural. You can't cook it up in a lab using all kinds of nasty chemicals to cut it with. I cruise the court reports in the paper most every night. One guy gets caught drunk driving. He gets 45 day suspension of license, 30 day alcohol couseling, which he has to pay for and it ain't cheap, 350.00 in court costs and a record. Next guy gets caught with some weed. He gets 30.00 court costs and continued without a finding for sixty days after which his records get sealed. The courts know the weed laws are a joke and they should be spending time on more important things. I agree. Let the guy who wants to grow a little patch for his own enjoyment do it and if it helps someone forget the pain and anxiety of a cancer or other dibilitating desease what is the harm? I personally would rather drive with someone who just smoked a joint than drank a six pack.

You want to fight drugs then go after the crack dealers and the guys giving ecstasy to kids. The heroin dealers and coke heads. Now those people should be drawn and quartered.

[NJTackle]

Would someone please explain to us how different weed is to Tobacco? I really don't see how the government can justify legalizing tobacco and not weed! Think of the similarities? Think of the revenue? Think of the $ saved from drug traffic control?

Off topic - while their at it they should also legalize prostitution! And yes, tax the hell out of it! Mandatory health physicals (HIV tests) annually, etc. It would definitely help clean up the streets. NOW - I'm not saying I visit or need prostitution. I'm a happily married man! Trust me.....porn is a multi-million dollar industry and I'm not the pervert here!

[Skip N]

Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get. Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it. As if people arent F'ed up enough in this country we should make drugs even more common place? What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need

[quick decision]

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yesnomabey-1

I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get.

People who are looking for a alternative medicine should be allowed to pick the drugs they use. A lot of people over abuse pain killers every day. If pot was leagle, it would be abused to.


I dont like the government moderating anything more than is nessesary. I would say yes on medical but no on public use.

[NJTackle]

Originally posted by quick decision
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yesnomabey-1

I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get.

I agree. You'd be surprised how easy it is. If they are going to try it behind my back, I'd certainly rather have them try weed grown by a pharmaceutical company then some jackoffs basement not know what chemicals he may have used.

Simply put - if a parent doesn't know his kid is smoking weed then that child should be taken away from the parent, period! Yes, there should be a strike 1, 2 and 3 or other. My point is there is no way, as a parent, that you can NOT know your kid is smoking weed. Or the he is not building explosives in the basement, guns, over 18 video games - the list goes on and on. Unless of course, you travel 99% of the time and are never around. Then the more important question is who's really raising the child, and are you really responsible enough to have children? Damn...why not make having children illegal. There is no license or qualification for that. You don't have to be a certain age. There is no test. You can have as many as you'd like no matter your financial status. And if you can't afford them, the rest of us will help pay for them! We need to be more responsible for our own actions and not depend on the government or other agency to guide us through the road of life!

It blows my stack when society blames society when things go wrong. What is this world coming to when we need huge bold notes on coffee cups stating 'contents may be hot'. That we need to be told that smoking may cause cancer. Drinking & driving impairs your reaction time. You need to buckle up when driving. Guns should be made illegal as they kill, not the people pulling the trigger. And when there isn't something there to remind us so we don't forget to breath (cause, you know, we may forget and drop dead)......we immediately seek legal counsel.

I digress....and am going back to work. Need to pay for my kids college fund....

[cheferson]

Originally posted by Skip N
Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get.

You havent been in a town school system lately, i take it. My friends in High School could score a bag of herb easier then they could get alcohol. Ussally score it right in school too. If they cant keep drugs out of high security prisons, how the heck do they expect to rid a free society of them anyway???

[bart]

i wouldn't go as far as to say its 100% natural. some is, but most isn't.

booze and cigs kill more people in this country than anything else, yet they remain legal. i think this one is of the great hypocrisies(sp?) of our time.

if it will help someone who is terminally ill feel the slightest bit better why not legalize it for medical use?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally posted by Skip N
Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get.

How could it possibly be any easier for kids to get. Right now if they want it they can get it....no problem. At least if it was legal and sold at a store proper ID could be required. Some stores really do ID Kids for Cigarettes and Booze

Originally posted by Skip N
Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it.

Funny there wre a lot of people on this board that want it legal and I don't think they're the Druggie Stoner types.

Originally posted by Skip N
What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next

The big differnce betwwen these drugs and weed is that if you take too much of these you DIE. I've never seen anyone OD on pot before

Originally posted by Skip N
From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need

I agree that if you smoke a Pack of bones a day the same way you smoke a pack of butts, yes it probably is worse for you than smoking....but nobody, in reality, smokes 20 joints a day

[Big Vern]

A bag of herb is FAR easier for a high schooler to obtain than any amount of alcohol. Had that very conversation with my cousin on Thanksgiving.

The government should legalize the weed and tax the piss out of it instead of spending millions/billions trying to fight it. Turn a loss into a gain in an endeavor that is doomed to fail.

If alcohol is legal, weed should definitely be legal. I would feel far safer around someone that is stoned than someone that is drunk. Do people smoke a bone and get into fights? No. Do people smoke a bone and drive fast and out of control? No. Do people smoke a bone and do things they regret? Unless they regretted watching a bad movie, most probably not.

Also,I have many friends that have battled the alcohol/drug demons, and I will say that none had any problems with pot. Booze? Yes. Coke? Oh yeah. Heroin? Most definitely. Make the weed legal, tax it, and throw the proceeds and savings into fighting OC's, coke, and heroin. Those are the real problem drugs. Well...those and the worst of all, booze.

[bart]

well said DC

[fishdump]

Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it.

Well I think it should be legalized and I am an engineer with a Master's Degree. So what does that make me? Have you ever had a friend or family member with cancer who has gone through so much chemo and all the pills they given them for nausea have more side effects then the one problem that the pill is "supposed" to be helping with. If something as simple as an herb that can be grown naturally and does not have to be processed or chemically derived can help to lessen that nausea and given them a little bit of an appetite enabling them to eat(yes getting the munchies does help them), then I am all for it. And as others have said tax the hell out of it.

[t.orlando]

Used to smoke a lot of ganga and quit pretty easily. Can't quit the butts though.......which one do you think is worse? Pot is not addictive like booze, butts, and hard drugs. Big business is the reason pot(hemp) is still illegal. They stand to lose too much if cheaper products via hemp were made legal. The use of hemp fiber, oil, etc. is well documented and could put a serious dent in some of the Company's that have well paid lobbiests as well as kickback funded govt officials in their pockets.

[Jimbo]

I would agree whole heartedly with Fishdump's angle on legalizing it. It took one instance for me to be turned off by it. Good friend apparently bought some pot laced with animal tranquilizers or something, they really don't know, but suspect a crystal or shard of something made it's way into his brain which is about the equivalent of stewed tomatoes now. I tried it a couple times but liked the way a few to many beers made me feel better. Wouldn't hold it against anyone to partake, but I think I'm just too old to think that someday I'd feel comfortable if one of my girls sat there and boned up after a nice Sunday dinner.

[partsjay]

Just make it legal. Its everywhere, and its not going anywhere. How many smoking accidents are there? My Aunt was killed by a drunk driver....somebody try and tell my poor Grandmother that booze is no big deal. Anything used in excess is a bad thing, you just have to know your limits. I am a professional beer drinker, but you won't find me driving after I have had some.( or around my grandmother ). Alcohol can take away someone's life very easily, its very addictive. It took my Aunt & almost took my Dad away from me ( he had a long battle with it when I was a kid ), but he beat it. Smoking is no way near as dangerous as that stuff.

[Surfcastinglife]

im 19 years old. for the better part of my freshman and sophmore yrs at high school i smoked pot. not with any regularity just occasionally take a puff. some of the kids smoked cigs everyday some a pack a day. weed is dangerous because u really dont know what these drug dealers are doing to it. the pure marijuana straight from the plant is very different. legalize it regulate it with govt agencies, and take this crap off the hands of the dealers. make it 18+ and make sure ur distributing weaker doses. its impossible to overdose from marijuana you would have to smoke an ungodly amount in a short period of time to die. it is a drug yes, but it is only frowned upon because as a society we've been taught to hate it to look upon it as evil. imagine if we all conditioned our kids to hate alcohol, to consider it evil how many lives would be saved? how many 18 yr olds would still be here with us 2day? maybe im wrong, but i can tell you this much. all my friends who smoked weed are still with me most in college, 3 of the ones who drank are buried. maybe we've illegalized the wrong drug this whole time

[Skip N]

Stoners Stoners you are all stoners! Truthfully i could care less wether they leagalize it or not i guess. If someone wants to smoke that #^&#^&#^&#^& go right ahead and look like the loser that they are. You've all heard the stories....most hard core drug users start with pot and move on to the more potent stuff. If they want to be drug bags hell let them be for all care. Just stay the hell away from me. If legalize it and taxing the crap out of it means i pay less in taxes then what the hell do it i guess. Save me some $$ in taxes maybe It will never be fully legalized anyway so its not even worth arguing about!Med purposes it will probably be and thats it.

[cheferson]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skip N
[B] You've all heard the stories....most hard core drug users start with pot and move on to the more potent stuff. [i][quote]

I bet before they smoke herb they smoked ciggarettes and drank alcohol. So all these cancer patients in cali smoking herb are gonna start shooting heroin soon to relieve their pain???

[RIJIMMY]

I beleive it is riduculous that alcohol is legal and pot is not. How many people were killed by drunk drivers, fights, ruined marriages, and careers by alcohol? It is one of the most addictive drugs (yes, alcohol is a drug). Pot should be legal. I am suprised that no one has challenged the constitutionality of the govt. telling me I cannot smoke if I want to. As long as I do not hurt anyone, I should be able to take any drug that I want.
The argument that pot leads to harder drugs is hilarious. Does beer drinking lead to drinking harder alcohol? All drugs are bad, cafefiene wacks me out. But people should use there own discretion adn teh govt. should enforce this.

[reelecstasy]

"Legalize it, and I will advertise it..." seriously, not even one case of anyone dieing from smokin the herb..crazy huh?

[bart]

"Leeegalize it, don't criticize it"

[Big Vern]

Skip...I'm glad someone is listening to the anti-drug ads.

However, you are way off base calling every pot smoker a loser and a drugbag. I feel that couldn't be further from the truth. I have a friend who is an extremely successful professional who doesn't drink but smokes weed daily. I can honestly say that the kid has it togther - he's fit, he's successful, has a wonderful family, and he smokes weed every day. He feels it is far more responsible for him to smoke weed than to drink. What is the problem with that? How in any shape or form is he a loser? I don't think you can lump people into your preconceived notions.

[NaCl H2O]

Another vote for legalization here.... This quote is from an excellent article on the failings of alcohol prohibition. Almost all of it can be applied to marijuana prohibition.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html

"Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending."

[Motor Fish]

Weed is illegal???

Since when?

[Rappin Mikey]

I, just like Mr. Tosh, say "legalize it". Both sides of the issue have strong supporting arguments. However, if it is alleviating someones pain (physical not mental) that should be the most important issue. I just hope that the people who are throwing stones don't also drink. If they do they are very hypocritical.

[Skip N]

" I don't think you can lump people into your preconceived notions."

Fine then...."most" pot smokers are losers. You happy now? Geeze get a grip I hope that dude isnt smoking around his kids or anything at home. Then he would fall into my loser category

[beamie]

I'm sure some of you are in the same boat I am. I often have to take drug tests in order to keep my job.

So......if it were to be past and someone was to take it for medicinal purposes and fail the test what will it become then?

This will just lead to more problems and issues. Best not to legalize it.

[Big Vern]

Fine then...."most" pot smokers are losers.

Skip N...you need to get a grip. Just go ahead and make some more generalizations while you're at it. You can just as easily say most beer drinkers are losers.

[Jimbo]

I mentioned before it doesn't really matter to me but I gotta play devil's advocate a little. First, why compare pot to alcohol to make the argument that pot should be legalized? One comment that was made was that pot is not as dangerous as alcohol, which tells me there really should be some concern about one's motor skills or abilities after smoking, but I'm really just not seeing that those two substances should fall into the same boat for the sake of a comparison. Other than medical, is there an argument for pot that stands on it's own merit? Or maybe compare pot to tobacco, but then wouldn't you get into a discussion about legalization that might lead to the government regulating and taxing the industry and you might find that to sell it you had to modify it a little so all joints are created equal in strength, then maybe you have to filter it to ward off the harmful effects of smoke in general and what do you end up with? "Please, sir, give me a pack of Mary-Jane Lights joints." I agree, take the comments like "all users are..." out of a thread like this, but if you're going to support this issue then there's got to be more scientific fact about its advantages or how you see it become legalized and controlled and less "it should be legalized because it's not as bad as X". I'm sure I'm no longer a Bomba Brother in good standing, now, but that's just my take on it.