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Old 03-26-2010, 05:46 PM   #1
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wow...ever more reasons why/how Obama got elected.....
Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....

How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^&#^&#^&#^&

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Old 03-26-2010, 06:37 PM   #2
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Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....

How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^&#^&#^&#^&
He's the master of the non sequitur...

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Old 03-26-2010, 07:57 PM   #3
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Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....

How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^&#^&#^&#^&
how about pulling your head out of your ass and checking the congressional record from yesterday to see what all of the fuss was about... instead of whining like a welfare recipient to give you what you want when you could just as easily get on you own? maybe you should expand your information source for politics beyond a fishing website

ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf reports:

Here's where we are with the health reform bill. One of the beautiful things for Democrats about the budget reconciliation process they are using to tweak their health reform law is that the bill is not filibusterable.

The beautiful thing for Republicans is that any old amendment can be offered and get a vote.

Sen. Tom Coburn has released his list of amendments to the reconciliation bill. Democrats will try to defeat all the amendments, if possible, to avoid another vote in the House.

But Republicans will make that goal as tough as possible.

So the first amendment Coburn is offering is pretty tough, politically, to disagree with.

It would ban the government from covering erectile dysfunction medication for sex offenders who get their insurance on the exchanges.

While banning the coverage of those drugs would save money, it would also create new policy. And under budget rules, would probably need 60 votes instead of the 51 usually required during budget reconciliation.

Either way, Democrats will probably have to plug their noses and vote against the amendment. Then they’ll be on record with the vote.

You can imagine the campaign commercial… cue scary music… “Politician X wants to give Viagra to sex offenders…”

The full list of Coburn’s amendments (he’s only one Senator, expect many many more) is below, as released by his office:

No Erectile Dysfunction Drugs To Sex Offenders – This amendment would enact recommendations from the Government Accountability Office to stop fraudulent payments for prescription drugs prescribed by dead providers or, to dead patients. This amendment also prohibits coverage of Viagra and other ED medications to convicted child molesters, rapists, and sex offenders, and prohibits coverage of abortion drugs. (Note: the creation of exchanges could allow sex offenders to receive taxpayer-funded Viagra and other ED drugs unless Congress expressly prohibits this action – see additional background attached)

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how about pulling your head out of your ass and checking the congressional record from yesterday to see what all of the fuss was about... instead of whining like a welfare recipient to give you what you want when you could just as easily get on you own? maybe you should expand your information source for politics beyond a fishing website
Wow, what a dodge...

I can't believe you couldn't even scrape up a single link.

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Wow, what a dodge...

I can't believe you couldn't even scrape up a single link.

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you speak too soon...if he was half paying attention to the news, I wouldn't have to waste my time...oh crap...I'm starting to sound like you...
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you speak too soon...if he was half paying attention to the news, I wouldn't have to waste my time...oh crap...I'm starting to sound like you...
I think you missed the point of TDF's post...

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I think you missed the point of TDF's post...

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no, actually...he missed the point of the thread..."I just heard that sex offenders will be eligible for Viagra under Obama Health Care?"

and then he called me a bad word....which according to the dems. these days constitutes threats of violence...but I forgive him...
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(Note: the creation of exchanges could allow sex offenders to receive taxpayer-funded Viagra and other ED drugs unless Congress expressly prohibits this action – see additional background attached)
This little tidbit isn't even listed in the huffington post article you referenced.....

this is what I see in that article.....

The idea is that by securing even a slight adjustment in the language, the Senate will have to send the bill back to the House of Representatives for reconsideration. Drawing out the process makes it more likely for it to be tripped up.

Which tells me that he is entering this amendment just to bog down the legislative process....not because it has any basis in fact...and if it does i asked to see it.

and as far as me being a welfare recipient, you can kiss my ass on that one.....

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ohhh....wassamadda Kevin....Hopey Change isn't all you'd hoped and dreamed??? I'll go R-E-A-L-L-Y ....S-L-O-W for you because I'm feeling generous and it almost Holy week so I should try to help those in need....."the question" was whether sex offenders would be eligible for Viagara and other such drugs under the new healthcare reform law"....are you following me??? the answer is, as constituted ....yes....and I provided proof to you that there are concerns over this on both sides by citing the Huffington Post and AbC News so that you could not accuse me of using right wing propoganda sources....Coburn ( a doctor I believe) proposed an ammendment to prohibit the above....it was a valid ammendment to address a valid issue, the dems decided to vote it down...you can invent whatever reasons to satisfy you own leanings but that's what happened... you could very well have figured this out on your own if you'd read slowly, I'd hope...well, maybe not....

funny ... after all of the Political Whoring and utter Perversion of our Legislative process that occured to get this healthcare disaster passsed through...this is what upsets you???? yikes....

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