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Old 02-24-2020, 04:57 PM   #1
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He got rid of waste

With the coronavirus killing thousands and threatening to tank the global economy, I feel like more people should be talking about the fact that Trump fired the entire pandemic response team two years ago and then didn't replace them.
Trump also cut funding for the CDC, forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018.
Among the countries abandoned? China.
This isn't just about accountability. It's about drawing attention to the structural problems in the US response effort before things get worse.
And it’s not limited to diseases, the increased structural problems carry through all national security operations.
But he’s saving you money, just what is 3% of the DOW, never mind the danger to Americans here and abroad worth.

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Old 02-24-2020, 09:14 PM   #3
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rest easy everyone, the guy who said to rake the forest and water-bomb the cathedral and nuke the hurricane knows exactly how to handle this global pandemic thing
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Old 02-24-2020, 10:06 PM   #5
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The Chinese Communist Party suppressed information from the beginning of this coronavirus. It would not have wanted to expose the outbreak to any foreign government if it could have kept it quiet. Our CDC could not have done anything about it at the crucial time of its beginning because the CCP would not want any foreign government, especially not the American, to be responsible for helping to control the outbreak. It did not even want the rest of China to know about it. Secrecy and lies, in crises like this, are necessary in order to enforce what the CCP considers "social stability." Admitting that foreign help was needed would cause the CCP to lose face and be damaging to its hold on power. The U.S. has offered to help three times already but China refused.

At this point, if necessary, Congress can provide funding for the CDC or pharmaceutical research in order to do what is necessary here.

China is responsible for this coronavirus, not Trump.

With the Hong Kong rebellion, trade war with the U.S., and now this virus which may result in several tens of millions of Chinese deaths, may all destroy the Chinese economy and bring down the CCP.

While our Press was low key for a while, The Epoch Times has published several articles early on and has exposed that it was worse than the Chinese were admitting once they had to confess that the virus existed.

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Old 02-25-2020, 08:32 AM   #6
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pete, we’re all surprised to note that you departed from your usual routine, and blamed it all on Trump.
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I'm pretty sure Pete didn't blame Trump, he pointed out that some moves made might not be so wise, especially in light of how this might spread. I think it's pretty clear the Chinese government hid this for as long as they could and now unfortunately the rest of the world is going to pay some of the price.

Hey on a side note, I know this isn't Jim's house, because he is from CT, I would envision this to be more of an SD front yard.
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I'm pretty sure Pete didn't blame Trump, he pointed out that some moves made might not be so wise, especially in light of how this might spread. I think it's pretty clear the Chinese government hid this for as long as they could and now unfortunately the rest of the world is going to pay some of the price.

Hey on a side note, I know this isn't Jim's house, because he is from CT, I would envision this to be more of an SD front yard.
You are an idiot if you think my house is that small.
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No I envision your lawn might look like that covered in Trump love, seems your comprehension skills are slipping again, next time I will be clearer so you can more easily catch the hidden meaning.
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No I envision your lawn might look like that covered in Trump love, seems your comprehension skills are slipping again, next time I will be clearer so you can more easily catch the hidden meaning.
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Dude, you really have a misconception based on silly. Go have fun and stop envisioning my lawn. Wtf is the matter with you?
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:08 AM   #11
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there's always a tweet and he thinks it's a good time to get in the market!

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The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

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Market is down 1000 points ,, and not sure how you can blame China a nation of 1.3 billion for the spread of virus that's new to the world with no cure and seems to spread easily,, trust me the USA can't handle such a outbreak,

"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.


Yet Trump after weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation,,, is he lying trying not to be an alarmist or does his administration and advisers not have a clue
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Market is down 1000 points ,,

which might attract speculators who buy when the market is low. A trend that would "look good" to buy and sell speculators.

and not sure how you can blame China a nation of 1.3 billion for the spread of virus that's new to the world with no cure and seems to spread easily,,

Because China did not immediately expose the problem, letting it unnecessarily spread, and then refusing offered help.

trust me the USA can't handle such a outbreak,

Ugh . . hard to trust you . . . maybe you're right this time . . . hope not.

"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.


Yet Trump after weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation,,, is he lying trying not to be an alarmist

That's the general view of those who don't have TDS.

or does his administration and advisers not have a clue
No doubt that is your view. After all, as you say, "the USA can't handle such a outbreak"
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No doubt that is your view. After all, as you say, "the USA can't handle such a outbreak"
"which might attract speculators who buy when the market is low. A trend that would "look good" to buy and sell speculators"

Of course it's a huge opportunity,
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As Agolf Admin spreads disinformation
Consider the facts:
Coronavirus carriers often have light symptoms - detection/containment hard as w/ flu
The Coronavirus case-based fatality is about 2%
Flu = 0.14%
2019 - US flu killed 34k And we have a vaccine
Best case ETA corona vaccine - 1 yr
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Agolf has shown no aversion to central planning, social engineering, protectionism, and corporate welfare in his first three years in office. Imagine all the self-serving and counterproductive economic meddling he’ll engage in should we face an economic downturn.
And it looks like one is starting..........
Nobody cares that he’s artificially inflating the economy and manipulating the market, for example he’ll come back from India and act like he’s got some great trade deal the best in the history of the world! No ones ever seen anything like it!

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Old 02-25-2020, 02:58 PM   #18
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“There’s no recession coming. The pessimistas were wrong. It’s not going to happen. . . The Bush boom is alive and well.”
- Larry Kudlow, December, 2007

"We have contained this, I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight." -- Kudlow, on @CNBC now.

Good thing Larry Kudlow is never catastrophically wrong about things.

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Old 02-25-2020, 03:00 PM   #19
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how’s your IRA doing since January 2017?
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DHS Secretary Chad Wolf claims the mortality rate for coronavirus is similar to the flu, both at about 2%. Senator Kennedy says "are you sure of that?" and the secretary doubles down.

The mortality rate for seasonal flu is closer to 0.1%:

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That press conference was disturbing.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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This is what happens when you put a megalomaniacal serial liar reality TV star in the White House. Eventually a real crisis comes along. One that requires steady leadership & honesty at the top & the ability to fully harness the resources of the US government. We have none of that.

America's large number of uninsured, together w/ heavy Trump-era negative incentives for undocumented & legal immigrants to use available healthcare services (public charge rule, deportation, etc) will make it virtually impossible to contain coronavirus spread in this country.

Then the tweet will come: It is all Pence's fault. He was only in my administration a short while and I did not know him well.

Then it will end with CDC Director Jared Kushner frantically Googling "caronnavirus?" as a pandemic sweeps across the country.

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What are you talking about, Trump said we would be down just just two cases in the next couple days and I heard him say this week the stock market looked good; he wouldn’t lie to the American people it’s just not in his nature.
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The Stable Genius is now fully embracing the conspiracy theory that his assorted enemies are deliberately hyping the coronavirus threat, all to damage him politically. At his Wednesday news conference, He agreed with Rush Limbaugh’s suggestion that his foes are “weaponizing” the outbreak against him.

So we may be seeing, for the first time, how our ignorant, incompetent, narcissistic psychopath of a president deals with a real crisis not of his own making.

Approximately 76.9 million people visited the United States in 2017, the most recent year reported.

Checking the body temperatures of air transportation passengers landing in the USA is next to useless. The incubation period can be between 3 and 14 days before passengers carrying the virus bacteria begin to show any signs of illness and higher than normal temperatures.

The virus bacteria is NOT ONLY spread by breathing, sneezing and coughing. It is also spread by simple touching the same items a person carrying the bacteria has touched.
A single virus bacteria carrier on a aircraft can contaminate everything he touches inside the cabin. The virus is a Living Bacteria Organism and it can survive and live upon surfaces touched by a carrier for up to 72 hours. You can touch the handle bar on a shopping cart and get it if another person who used that shopping cart had it.

"Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs," said Philip Tierno Jr, Professor of Microbiology and Pathology at NYU School of Medicine.

He said much remains unknown about the virus. "I'm not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax," he said, meaning the disease appears to go away before recurring.

PS: Quarantines will NOT help very much. What we do not yet know is ___ If you contacted the virus today and if you recovered next week __ are you still carrying and spreading the virus bacteria after you recovered from having it???

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The Stable Genius is now fully embracing the conspiracy theory that his assorted enemies are deliberately hyping the coronavirus threat, all to damage him politically.
If it's a political deep state conspiracy we have nothing to fear, resume the flights from China, stop the hand washing, shake hands with strangers, short stock in Pfizer

Trump didn't even know the flu killed a lot of people every year so it can't be that bad. Pence has a poor track record with disease control so he's perfect to lead the non-response necessary.

Oh, and a note to the so called experts who spoke at Trump's presser, you're about 1000 points from all getting fired. Might as well resign now.
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How long until we see the first big story about the president and other political officials pressuring the CDC behind the scenes to downplay warnings about the Coronavirus?

Stable Genius said that “Mike is going to be in charge, and Mike will report back to me.” Mr. Pence said it will be Dr. Birx. Meanwhile, Alex M. Azar II, the health and human services secretary, remains the chairman of the government’s coronavirus task force.

Lucky that this White House has soberly cultivated exactly the reputation for truthfulness, probity, and scientific acumen that will allow it to calm us in these troubled times.
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when the POTUS and his allies have made it their mission to discredit science the media and the Government. the have created that no information is truthful not even their own spin on the situation.. because 1/2 off the country doesn't trust Trump and the other half only trust Trump ..
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CA Gov. Newsom: California currently monitoring 8,400 people for suspected coronavirus
Obviously a plot
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