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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

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The march of the deplorables lasted three hours and was over….other than the phony outrage from the usual suspects lately nobody cares…I’m sorry this frustrates you…it didn’t really disrupt their lives of most…. Inflation is every day….

Yes, it does. Because none of those other things matter if you lose the Constitution.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes, it does. Because none of those other things matter if you lose the Constitution.
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but why didn’t any of you care, when after the 2016 election, democrats also tried to subvert the results of. free and fair election? many several
democrats asked the electors but to cast their votes for trump, and they objected to the electors in several states casting their votes for trump.

no one here cared. Why is that?

Answer - it’s ok to all of you, when democrats fight dirty. you only care when republicans do it.

When trump makes baseless claims that the 2020 election wasn’t fair, that’s bad because he’s undermining faith in the system. when stacey abrams does the same
thing, it’s not worth mentioning, because shut up.
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[scottw]

trump has succeeded in turning a lot of the left into hopeless drama queens...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes, it does. Because none of those other things matter if you lose the Constitution.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump wanted to undo the free election. that’s very very bad, but thank god it never came
close to happening.
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Jim that’s like saying the priest wanted to rape the kid got their clothes off . But didn’t penetrate them., So I guess it’s ok

But conservatives stick their heads in the sand and excuse it away . Most won’t even admit it trump wanted to undo the free election. that’s very very bad, but thank god it never came
close to happening. embraced lies over Truth trump wanted to undo the free election. that’s very very bad,

but thank god it never happened that’s a BS answer


Our you and others just repost false equivalences claiming their the same ! yelling hypocrisy of the left while being completely dishonest and unwilling separate apples from oranges because you agree with the oranges but are afraid to admit it so you dance around using Trumps logic there’s very good people on both sides
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

but why didn’t any of you care, when after the 2016 election, democrats also tried to subvert the results of. free and fair election? many several
democrats asked the electors but to cast their votes for trump, and they objected to the electors in several states casting their votes for trump.

no one here cared. Why is that?

Answer - it’s ok to all of you, when democrats fight dirty. you only care when republicans do it.

When trump makes baseless claims that the 2020 election wasn’t fair, that’s bad because he’s undermining faith in the system. when stacey abrams does the same
thing, it’s not worth mentioning, because shut up.
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The king of false equivalences speaks
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim that’s like saying the priest wanted to rape the kid got their clothes off . But didn’t penetrate them., So I guess it’s ok

But conservatives stick their heads in the sand and excuse it away . Most won’t even admit it trump wanted to undo the free election. that’s very very bad, but thank god it never came
close to happening. embraced lies over Truth trump wanted to undo the free election. that’s very very bad,

but thank god it never happened that’s a BS answer


Our you and others just repost false equivalences claiming their the same ! yelling hypocrisy of the left while being completely dishonest and unwilling separate apples from oranges because you agree with the oranges but are afraid to admit it so you dance around using Trumps logic there’s very good people on both sides
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trump didn’t get as far as taking the clothes off. it was never, ever going to happen. shame on him for even thinking about it, but it showed that our system works. trump couldn’t do it, and obviously the morons who stormed the capital had
no chance of accomplishing anything.

some democrats tried to undo the 2016 election, and you didn’t give a damn. why?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The king of false equivalences speaks
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you keep saying that. but you never specify why the equivalency is false. because you don’t even know what the expression means.

no two events are identical in every way. that doesn’t mean they aren’t comparable.

in 2016, trump won a free election. some democrats ( not biden, to his credit) tried to get the electors to not vote for trump. that’s exactly what they did, and you and spence didn’t care. which means your concern today over what trump did, is fake.

can’t have it both ways.

i think what democrats did then, and what trump did last year, we’re repugnant. i’m consistent. you guys aren’t, because you can’t criticize democrats, never. fine. prepare for the reckoning that’s coming in november.
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[wdmso]

Trump Endorses Viktor Orban, Hungary’s Far-Right Prime Minister

Democracy in Hungary has been backsliding under Mr. Orban, whose efforts to consolidate power have caused consternation in the European Union.

But iam the crazy one for thinking Trump and his followers are a direct threat to the US
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you keep saying that. but you never specify why the equivalency is false. because you don’t even know what the expression means.

no two events are identical in every way. that doesn’t mean they aren’t comparable.

in 2016, trump won a free election. some democrats ( not biden, to his credit) tried to get the electors to not vote for trump. that’s exactly what they did, and you and spence didn’t care. which means your concern today over what trump did, is fake.

can’t have it both ways.

i think what democrats did then, and what trump did last year, we’re repugnant. i’m consistent. you guys aren’t, because you can’t criticize democrats, never. fine. prepare for the reckoning that’s coming in november.
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Your examples have been debunked since you posted them last year as not remotely being the same or remotely having the same outcome

Prepare for the reckoning

You are a cult. Member just admit it
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you keep saying that. but you never specify why the equivalency is false. because you don’t even know what the expression means.

no two events are identical in every way. that doesn’t mean they aren’t comparable.

in 2016, trump won a free election. some democrats ( not biden, to his credit) tried to get the electors to not vote for trump. that’s exactly what they did, and you and spence didn’t care. which means your concern today over what trump did, is fake.

can’t have it both ways.
i’m consistent. you guys aren’t, because you can’t criticize democrats, never. fine. prepare for the reckoning that’s coming in november.
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Your examples have been debunked since you posted them last year as not remotely being the same or remotely having the same outcome

Prepare for the reckoning or

i think what democrats did then, and what trump did last year, we’re repugnant.

What did democrats do Jim ?

What did Trump and the Republicans do?

Can’t wait
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump Endorses Viktor Orban, Hungary’s Far-Right Prime Minister

"Far-Right"--that's a convenient rather meaningless label--sort of like how "fascism" is used to describe politics one doesn't like.

Democracy in Hungary has been backsliding under Mr. Orban,

Hungarians would be who decide if their Democracy is "backsliding"--your opinion, and that of your sources, notwithstanding.

whose efforts to consolidate power have caused consternation in the European Union.

Yikes, "consternation in the European Union." Is consternation there a new phenomenon? It seems to have been consterned for a long time. Since its inception, there have been predictions that it would fall apart. On the other hand, maybe that's a good sign. A healthy "democracy" should have good levels of consternation. Lockstep is a road to dictatorship.

And as far as consolidating power goes, that seems to be the norm for political parties. You don't think that Democrats spend "efforts to consolidate power?

But iam the crazy one for thinking Trump and his followers are a direct threat to the US
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Yeah, that is a looney idea. BTW, here's another take on Trump's "false claims" of election fraud:

https://justthenews.com/government/c...tor-commenting

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Your examples have been debunked since you posted them last year as not remotely being the same or remotely having the same outcome

Prepare for the reckoning or

i think what democrats did then, and what trump did last year, we’re repugnant.

What did democrats do Jim ?

What did Trump and the Republicans do?

Can’t wait
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democrats, like trump, lost a fair election, and attempted to overturn it. how can you deny that?! they asked electors to not vote for the guy who won, end then they objected to the electors who a actually cast their votes for trump.

please tell us how that’s fundamentally different than what you think trump did last year?
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I wonder what the numbers are for Democrats that don’t think protests need to be peaceful
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Some of us said it protesting was good, violence was bad, whether D or R and they were excoriated on the "muhhh BOTH SIDES" thing.

But Jan 6th was a Mostly Peaceful Protest.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

But Jan 6th was a Mostly Peaceful
Protest.

Just think of all of the hungry children they could have fed this holiday season instead of funding a massive effort to hand out all of those “parading” tickets
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

Just think of all of the hungry children they could have fed this holiday season instead of funding a massive effort to hand out all of those “parading” tickets
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They have hundreds more that will receive “tickets”
The Capital police who bore the brunt of the attack and the perpetrators who have and will receive prison terms would disagree with your gaslighting
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yeah, that is a looney idea. BTW, here's another take on Trump's "false claims" of election fraud:

https://justthenews.com/government/c...tor-commenting

Trump Endorses Viktor Orban, Hungary’s Far-Right Prime Minister

and you post excuses

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Some of us said it protesting was good, violence was bad, whether D or R and they were excoriated on the "muhhh BOTH SIDES" thing.

But Jan 6th was a Mostly Peaceful Protest.

:deadh orse::fa ga:

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

democrats, like trump, lost a fair election, and attempted to overturn it. how can you deny that?! they asked electors to not vote for the guy who won, end then they objected to the electors who a actually cast their votes for trump.

please tell us how that’s fundamentally different than what you think trump did last year?
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democrats, like trump, lost a fair election, and attempted to overturn it.

you are lost in your own imagination
where everything's the same ..

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

democrats, like trump, lost a fair election, and attempted to overturn it.

you are lost in your own imagination
where everything's the same ..

stacey abrams : “it was stolen from the voters.”

i posted video of her saying it. but that’s not good enough for you.

good for you.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

democrats, like trump, lost a fair election, and attempted to overturn it.

you are lost in your own imagination
where everything's the same ..

the GA secretary of state said trump had zero reason to claim he was robbed. The same secretary of state, said the same
exact thing about abrams.

you cling to everything which helps
liberals, and deny everything which doesn’t.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump Endorses Viktor Orban, Hungary’s Far-Right Prime Minister

and you post excuses

I didn't excuse anything. What did I say that is not true?

And what do you mean by "far right"? What do you mean by "right"? What would you consider "not-so-far right"? What would you consider smack-dab-in the middle right? What would you consider "way-way-way far right"? What would you consider "so-way-way-way-far out right" that it is no longer distinguishable in meaningful substance from "so-way-way-way-far out left?

And what do you consider yourself to be in that directional spectrum of good and bad or right and wrong? And are you that because you think that's the good or best spot to be? And do you affix "far" in front of a spot on the spectrum simply to denote a position, or to disapprove of a position? And if "far" indicates that you disapprove, who the hell are you to determine what is bad simply by saying it's too "far right"?

Do you have any clue as to what problems the people of Hungary are having in terms of preserving what they think is "Hungarian"? Do you believe they should drop all that ethnic foolishness and just be "European"? Do you believe that the nations of the European Union should dissolve their nominal identification and delineated borders and simply refer to themselves as European? Do you believe, for their own good and the good of "the world," they should become a State named Europe rather than being a European Union?

Do you believe we should become the United State rather than being the United States?

[wdmso]

analysis of 2022 secretary of state races across the country found at least 15 Republican candidates running who question the legitimacy of President Biden's 2020 win, even though no evidence of widespread fraud has been uncovered about the race over the last 14 months. In fact, claims of any sort of fraud that swung the election have been explicitly refuted in state after state, including those run by Republicans.

i know nothing to see

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

analysis of 2022 secretary of state races across the country found at least 15 Republican candidates running who question the legitimacy of President Biden's 2020 win, even though no evidence of widespread fraud has been uncovered about the race over the last 14 months. In fact, claims of any sort of fraud that swung the election have been explicitly refuted in state after state, including those run by Republicans.

i know nothing to see

i agree with you, it’s bad to make fake claims of election fraud. but you could care less when democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election, you could care less that Abrams claims hers was stolen. it’s only bad when republicans do it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i agree with you, it’s bad to make fake claims of election fraud. but you could care less when democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election, you could care less that Abrams claims hers was stolen. it’s only bad when republicans do it.
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Again thank for you false equivalence

[wdmso]

Seeing Trump bailed on his Jan 6th event no worries for our resident jan6 th minimizers. They Can tune in to

Newsmax to Air 'Day of Outrage' for Jan. 6 Anniversary. Day of Outrage” was produced by Newsmax to accurately and fairly detail the events related to the Capitol siege of Jan. 6.

With the following guests

The program includes exclusive interviews with Greg Kelly, who is the host of "Greg Kelly Reports"; Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald Trump; Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga.; Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; retired Marine Gunnery Sgt. Jessie Jane Duff; Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy J. Michael Waller; Ashli Babbitt’s mom Micki Witthoeft; Babbitt’s husband, Aaron; Jan. 6 detainee Kenneth Harrelson’s wife, Angel; former detainee Chris Worrell’s fiancée, Trish Priller; and business owner Roberto Minuta.

I am sure these speakers will fill you ears with a recurring theme you all ready believe. … Nothing happened. What you saw was a peaceful protest being twisted by liberals to discredit Republicans and peaceful protesters

And presented no threat to American Democracy then or in the future


But this guest is my favorite. Ashli Babbitt’s mom. She’s upset that Pelosi, Feinstein won’t speak to her about her daughter death but Trump has , Of course he has! Our POTUS supporting someone who attacked the capital in his name. Lol

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seeing Trump bailed on his Jan 6th event no worries for our resident jan6 th minimizers. They Can tune in to

Newsmax to Air 'Day of Outrage' for Jan. 6 Anniversary. Day of Outrage” was produced by Newsmax to accurately and fairly detail the events related to the Capitol siege of Jan. 6.

With the following guests

The program includes exclusive interviews with Greg Kelly, who is the host of "Greg Kelly Reports"; Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald Trump; Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga.; Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; retired Marine Gunnery Sgt. Jessie Jane Duff; Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy J. Michael Waller; Ashli Babbitt’s mom Micki Witthoeft; Babbitt’s husband, Aaron; Jan. 6 detainee Kenneth Harrelson’s wife, Angel; former detainee Chris Worrell’s fiancée, Trish Priller; and business owner Roberto Minuta.

I am sure these speakers will fill you ears with a recurring theme you all ready believe. … Nothing happened. What you saw was a peaceful protest being twisted by liberals to discredit Republicans and peaceful protesters

And presented no threat to American Democracy then or in the future


But this guest is my favorite. Ashli Babbitt’s mom. She’s upset that Pelosi, Feinstein won’t speak to her about her daughter death but Trump has , Of course he has! Our POTUS supporting someone who attacked the capital in his name. Lol

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

she was a white trumper, killed by a black cop, which is exactly why the left ignores her death. if she was a black gang banger killed by a white cop in a questionable shooting then the left would care. there’d be riots, speeches by al sharpton, etc.

it’s all politics. the left is making january 6 out to be more than it was, the right wa td to pretend it never happened.
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[nightfighter]

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

and whose life was in immediate danger if she breached the chamber? could she have launched nukes from there?

“i would have been firing”

yeah yeah yeah.

officer kim potter is facing 15 years for an honest mistake in a deadly situation created by a criminal. . but this cop is a hero.

makes all kinds of sense.

was stupid for her to break
in, so so stupid.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

I too am amazed at the restraint of the officers that day. She was a crazy woman.