Wonderbread paint finish?

[UserRemoved1]

hey Bruce you want it public here it is! I sent you a pm because I didn't feel this belonged online. Since your a moderator and said post it here then hey why not I got NOTHING to hide.

Why should I or Bigfish or Afterhours pay to be a sponsor of this site when guys like Smitty, Sporty, Fishdoc, Charleston, Baystalker, and many many more continually post pictures on here when they're doing nothing but trolling for sales?

Let's take smitty for instance. Every single post he's had with pictures here recently HAS been posted somewhere else including his own website with pictures of the same plugs in packages and for sale. So it's fair to everyone on here for this to keep happening time and time again? We been through this before and it's a sticky at the top of the forum. Not only is it against the site's policy of giving these guys free advertising in some cases these guys are in shops in plain package wrappers, or selling on other private forums here BLATANTLY and also doing it via private messages.

I've seen enough of this bs to last a lifetime. And when I do I'm going to say something. Why anyone would have a problem posting pictures of something if they're not selling or have nothing to hide is beyond me, nor can I understand why you feel it drives people away. I don't even post pictures here anymore because I've heard enough crap about being spam spam spam etc myself.

NO holier than though attitude. MY attitude is if your gonna sell then PAY to be a sponsor, PAY your frickin taxes-state, federal, and excise! Why should any of these guys get to make more money than any advertiser here!

Bruce you or anyone else can flame all you want I couldn't care less. Not one of these guys affects what I do every day but I'm tired of paying through the frickin nose every day when these guerilla marketers play cheat the system behind the scenes.

IT'S NOT FAIR to ANYONE who supports this site. The difference is I got the balls to say it publicly.

RANT OFF

[JohnR]

My last reply apparently got edited so here goes again.

Scott, if you, Bigfish or Afterhours, or any other sponsors have legitimate feeling that someone is spamming the forum, let me know. Please don't take it upon yourself to be the moderator / plug police or whatever. The purpose of this forum is to share plug building info, not to decide who can post what or who is doing what.

This plug board is a litle stagnant, partially due to crap like this, and it is time for that to change. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, contact me.

From here on out, no more "Ball Busting" suspected "Spammers" that are participating in the forums.

For those that are selling commercially elsewhere, please, I encourage you to participate and enjoy the forums. I also think it is more than reasonable to NOT conduct selling here. Thanks!

John

[smitty919]

Just for the record i am a commercial builder and do pay all my tax's.
I have never and will never pm any person to sell my plugs. "dont need to"

I posted 3 plug pictures of plugs including the wonder breads in the last 2 months so i dont know how you say im spamming yes 2 of them are now something on my site but that was it.

This is and will be the 2nd site i dont visit any more due to the problems you start with other builders just not worth it.....

I really hope you dont drive this one to the ground as you did with the others.

See you all on the flip side......

[Charleston]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

hey Bruce you want it public here it is! I sent you a pm because I didn't feel this belonged online. Since your a moderator and said post it here then hey why not I got NOTHING to hide.

Why should I or Bigfish or Afterhours pay to be a sponsor of this site when guys like Smitty, Sporty, Fishdoc, Charleston, Baystalker, and many many more continually post pictures on here when they're doing nothing but trolling for sales?


IT'S NOT FAIR to ANYONE who supports this site. The difference is I got the balls to say it publicly.

RANT OFF

Trolling for sales? You will never change Scott. You'll talk crap about anyone as long as it promotes your agenda. Do me a favor, leave me out of your pissing and moaning.

[Nebe]

This thread is all apples and oranges...

apples is that scott called one out for posting a picture of a lure that the guy sells some where else.. I think thats wrong as the guy didnt mention anything about selling or being contacted to sell..

oranges is about personal responsibility. Those that do sell should post respectfully and those who dont should do the same..

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This thread is all apples and oranges...

apples is that scott called one out for posting a picture of a lure that the guy sells some where else.. I think thats wrong as the guy didnt mention anything about selling or being contacted to sell..

oranges is about personal responsibility. Those that do sell should post respectfully and those who dont should do the same..

I hadn't opened this thread until this morning. I thought "I need to read how the other guys do it cause I tried mixing (blending actually) colrs to get that soft old style Wonderbread like the old bombers and have failed miserably. Then I start to read the rest of this.

I come here to learn. I haven't leaned much lately (last 2 years actually). I do love Plugfest and it's basic premise. I do beleive a lot of builders in the commercial end do not give credit where credit is due, which, when I do bitch, is my main complaint and it gets me in mui caliente agua ( my spanish sucks as you can tell). If it looks like a duck , swims like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck, maybe your version is slightly different but it is still a duck.

I learn more now when I spend time in Numby's cellar or a day fishing with Tagger or listeneing to Prof M as he casts and talks to the bass on a calm flat in CC Bay at dawn then here.

Hours on the phone with TC or quiet talks with Stan Kuszia are what I live for now to make my plugbuilding better. I miss Bassmaster beleive it or not and those days when Mr. Pogie and others long gone from this forum posted regularly.

Leave yur egos at the door, share and learn and celebrate success when someone posts pics of what they have achieved in thier progress.

I wish I had never opened this to look at. The thrill is gone in building, no motivation here which is what I thrived on. Thank God for new Stratocasters. My plug building is suffering but my playing just gets bettter and better!

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

I thought "I need to read how the other guys do it cause I tried mixing (blending actually) colrs to get that soft old style Wonderbread like the old bombers and have failed miserably.

Start with a White Primer ...then hit with a light spray of red, yellow, and blue wherever you want the colors and in a pattern that you like. Then after that, fog over it with a pearl paint......sometimes two or three coats depending on how subdued you want the colors to show through.

Hope that helps....

[Nebe]

Heres a great example of wonderbread in 3D..
http://www.wimp.com/laminarflow/