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Old 12-12-2020, 05:39 AM   #1
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for those with short memories

Washington Post
Colby Itkowitz
September 26, 2019 at 5:03 p.m. EDT

Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.

the Guardian
One year on, Donald Trump is still an illegitimate president

It is unlikely that the presidential election will be overturned, but that is not an argument against the case that it should be.



Washington Post Aug 22, 2018
Trump is an illegitimate president whose election is tainted by fraud


CS Monitor

Why a third of Clinton supporters say Trump's victory is illegitimate
One-third of Hillary Clinton supporters say Donald Trump's presidential victory is not legitimate, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

LA TIMES

Was the 2016 election legitimate? It’s now definitely worth asking the question

JULY 28, 2018

We need to talk about a forbidden subject: the legitimacy of the current president.

There’s been a code of silence around President Donald Trump’s shady victory in 2016.

VOX
Jun 28, 2019
Former President Jimmy Carter says Donald Trump is an illegitimate president

“He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf.”

NBC
March 19, 2017
Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll


Sun Herald Here are all the members of Congress who are boycotting Trump’s inauguration


The Atlantic
POLITICS JANUARY 18, 2017

What Happens When a President Is Declared Illegitimate?
Some Democrats, most notably Representative John Lewis, have labeled Donald Trump with the same epithet applied to his two immediate predecessors.

The Atlantic
Perceived illegitimacy is now an American tradition.

NOVEMBER 11, 2020
David Greenberg
Professor of History and Media Studies at Rutgers University
President Donald Trump’s unwillingness to concede the election is bad news for many reasons. One is that it all but guarantees that some portion of his followers will refuse to recognize the Biden administration’s legitimacy—just as some people did not recognize the Trump administration’s legitimacy.

CNBC
POLITICS APR 20 2018

Democratic Party files suit alleging Russia, the Trump campaign, and WikiLeaks conspired to disrupt the 2016 election

The Democratic National Committee sued the Trump campaign, the Russian government, Wikileaks on Friday, accusing them of conspiring to disrupt the 2016 presidential election.

The DNC says Russia found a “willing and active partner” in the Trump campaign to attack American democracy and defeat Hillary Clinton.

SNOPES

Group Claims More Than 50 Trump Electors Were ‘Illegitimate’
Americans Take Action's claim that “Trump’s ascension to the presidency is completely illegitimate" is unlikely to change the election results.


5 JANUARY 2017
The group Americans Take Action made the news in early January 2017 with their announcement that, having been unsuccessful in their efforts to urge Republican electors to reject Donald Trump and vote for “a more qualified president,” they were seeking to invalidate the results of the Electoral College vote because “more than 50 electors were ineligible”:

^^^^there are a million of these

HERALD TRIBUNE DEC 9th

Democrats get taste of their own medicine

Since the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Joe Biden, the late Rep. John Lewis and former President Jimmy Carter are just a few prominent Democrats who have called Donald Trump an "illegitimate" president.

Rep. Maxine Waters (“tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere”) has been shouting out "Impeach 45" since Trump was inaugurated.

Democrats and their media allies pushed the phony, discredited Russia collusion story that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and used to try to undermine the Trump presidency.

My question is this: Where were the calls for unity on the part of all these Democrats in 2016? Where was Biden calling out Clinton when she advised Biden not to concede the election under any circumstances?

Now that Trump questions an election it's the gravest threat to our government since the founding of our country.

Sorry, what goes around comes around. Apparently, Democrats find it offensive when Trump mirrors their behavior.


YUP

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Old 12-12-2020, 07:14 AM   #2
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How many illegitimate law suits without evidence did they bring? How long after the election was called did Hillary concede? Good try but it’s not the same, not even close.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:43 AM   #3
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How many illegitimate law suits without evidence did they bring? How long after the election was called did Hillary concede? Good try but it’s not the same, not even close.
who cares?...it went on for four years...non-stop....in fact it continues...zero sympathy for your whining
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this is fun...

Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell sent a letter Friday urging House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to consider blocking more than 100 Republican lawmakers from taking office because of their support for President Trump's lawsuit challenging the 2020 election results.
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Scott, I voted against her criminal azz too! Here's the difference though. She is quoted as a private citizen! Not the President! She had no way to threaten nor delay the transfer of power. You are still reaching, clawing, trying to hold on.....

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this is fun...

Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell sent a letter Friday urging House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to consider blocking more than 100 Republican lawmakers from taking office because of their support for President Trump's lawsuit challenging the 2020 election results.
Fun? You really think this is fun? I find it disgusting use of the office. Same with the jackwad from Texas who knowingly suggested that some states should secede from the union.

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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You are still reaching, clawing, trying to hold on.....
not really...I paid my money a while ago
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And.... the same goes for the Dems comment you refer to, as goes for Trump now. Just because they say it, numerous times, does not make it the truth.

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Scott don't you have holdovers in your area?
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Scott go to Breitbart. You’ll fit right in. No one there knows the difference between fraud and influenced either

Their loved 3 Trump appointed Judges are now cast aside As Spines of jelly. What comes next will be a direct result of their cowardice...


Wow. Nearly 70 Democratic lawmakers now skipping Trump's inauguration

Wow 18 state AG and 120 Republican house members And the POTUS TRUMP attempted to throw out 4 states vote and overturn an American election.... based on a feeling. But hea this site should have false equivalence emoji. Ps

The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, No Courage!” Mr Trump tweeted shortly before midnight, before falsely claiming the election election was “rigged” and that he would “fight on”. Like I’ve said since day 1 the most un American POTUS ever

to sarcastically coin a Trump flag. F your feelings,, lol

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no thanks...I hear it's all fake news
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F—- him, he is in the keys right now catching tarpon.... 😆
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I'm back...I was going to stay another week because the fishing was awesome as was the cuban coffee and 80 degrees but the weather was going down hill...only going to be low 70's so I came home.....now I'm quarantining
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atlantic salmon on Monday
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I did notice that when I peeked in between tarpon and when Jim and Detbuch took a little sabbatical....you guys just kept right on screaming at each other....so maybe the lefty contingent doesn't need us....you guys can get triggered and express your outrage among and at each other all on your own
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Without pictures it didn't happen
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Good luck! I went steelhead fishing last weekend with no luck. But it was Trump country so that was fun
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Facebook. It happened. As I said F him 😂
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So...there is a conspiracy between the GOP governors of GA and AZ, Georgia’s Secretary of State (R), Trump’s attorney general Bill Barr, and the three Supreme Court Justices nominated by Trump (!) ... to steal the election and install a Democrat president???
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I just drove through the south...talk about trump country...holy crap
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Clinton called Trump to concede once the media called the race. This thread is moot.
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she regretted it ...still does...how pissed is she that dementia joe is president?
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They canned spring break on us this year... 😫😫
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I just drove through the south...talk about trump country...holy crap
That’s because excessive heat fries your brain
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Scott,
It’s going to be ok. I promise...I mean look at me, I survived Trump. You’ll be just fine.

I wanted to give you a little encouragement, and also to let you know that you seem a little upset.

You can start counting down the 1400 days till the next election starting in January 21st.

1400 bottles of beer on the wall, 1400 bottles of beer...
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Take one down, indictments around, 1399 bottles of beer on the wall
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great time to be chasing little tarpon with a fly rod...paddle board gets you into some amazing places...my only complaint is the noseeums....
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