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Old 02-16-2021, 11:39 AM   #1
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Biden border surge could be 1.4++million illegal crossings/year

Former ICE director says illegal border crossings at the current rate could be 1.4 million in a year, and become astronomical if the Remain in Mexico policy is abandoned. Not to mention the huge added burden on containing covid 19.

“I wrote an op-ed for Fox News seven months ago and I said if Joe Biden became president, we would lose the border and it’s happening,” Homan replied. “The surge is already there. Now, you mentioned those numbers, but the truth is, it’s almost 4,000 crossings a day because Border Patrol isn’t adding [the ones who got away]. So there’s a way they count footprints in the sand and vehicle stop. So it’s about 4,000 a day. Now, you times that by a month, that’s 120,000 month, which is 1.4 million a year.”

“And that’s why Title 42 is still in place for single adults. Once [the Remain In Mexico policy] stops adhering to Title 42, the numbers will be astronomical. And we knew this will happen because all the promises Joe Biden has made and he continues to make. And you know, so this isn’t by accident. This is by design. This is an open border strategy. He has bowed to the left, we lose the border.”

"Biden previously promised to eliminate immigration restrictions put in place by the Trump administration, including the Remain in Mexico policy, which requires asylum seekers to remain in Mexico while they wait for their U.S. court hearings."

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Old 02-16-2021, 02:58 PM   #2
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Ah, more supposition and conjecture?
Be very afraid
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/08...latin-america/
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:08 PM   #3
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Ah, more supposition and conjecture?
Be very afraid
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/08...latin-america/
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Your article is entirely an exercise in supposition and conjecture. It is a "hope" that things will go well . . . whatever "well" is supposed to be. It is a cluster of the kinds of compassionate and hopeful policies that have not solved the problem of millions of illegal crossings before and under which those crossings continued and grew larger. It actually makes millions of illegal "migrants" out to be desirable.

The article I posted had actual numbers of illegals crossing now, which if continued would result in millions more. We are restricted to wearing masks and social distancing, but it's OK to encourage untested millions from high Covid frequency areas to cross over in super spreader groups and roam through the country at will. And if the Remain in Mexico policy is abandoned, the numbers will go dramatically up.

As has been mentioned several times on the forum, if we want to import needed immigrants, we can do so sanely by accepting legal, vetted, immigrants from various parts of the world. Encouraging mass, illegal, unvetted, migration from a small and backward part of the world, especially in massive numbers before previous ones have totally assimilated, is a horrible way to do it.

Are you in favor of encouraging those flows of caravans that we were having and are now making a comeback? Do you think we actually need them?
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Old 02-16-2021, 10:20 PM   #4
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Your article is entirely an exercise in supposition and conjecture. It is a "hope" that things will go well . . . whatever "well" is supposed to be. It is a cluster of the kinds of compassionate and hopeful policies that have not solved the problem of millions of illegal crossings before and under which those crossings continued and grew larger. It actually makes millions of illegal "migrants" out to be desirable.

The article I posted had actual numbers of illegals crossing now, which if continued would result in millions more. We are restricted to wearing masks and social distancing, but it's OK to encourage untested millions from high Covid frequency areas to cross over in super spreader groups and roam through the country at will. And if the Remain in Mexico policy is abandoned, the numbers will go dramatically up.

As has been mentioned several times on the forum, if we want to import needed immigrants, we can do so sanely by accepting legal, vetted, immigrants from various parts of the world. Encouraging mass, illegal, unvetted, migration from a small and backward part of the world, especially in massive numbers before previous ones have totally assimilated, is a horrible way to do it.

Are you in favor of encouraging those flows of caravans that we were having and are now making a comeback? Do you think we actually need them?
More baloney
Don’t worry you’re all set, your plan worked. 34% of Americans are scared.
McConnell hates Trump. Trump hates McConnell. That’s very good news.
Putin’s happy
Trump will continue to receive funding
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Old 02-16-2021, 11:48 PM   #5
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More baloney
Don’t worry you’re all set, your plan worked. 34% of Americans are scared.
McConnell hates Trump. Trump hates McConnell. That’s very good news.
Putin’s happy
Trump will continue to receive funding
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If this blather is all you can come up with, why do you bother? Is this some kind of stupid game?
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:21 PM   #6
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We’ll need more than that if we’re gonna beat the Russians in the next election... open that pipe Joe!!!!
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Old 02-18-2021, 07:26 PM   #7
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Come on, even Ted Cruz crossed the border seeking a better life for his children
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Come on, even Ted Cruz crossed the border seeking a better life for his children
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Legally.
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I get it now. Ted and Heidi Cruz wanted their children to be safe, to have basic sanitary services like heat and running water, to leave behind a third-world apocalyptic nightmare for a safer place. Like so many parents before them, they decided to cross the Mexican border.

"I don't believe that he (the former guy) should be playing a role in the future of the party or the country."
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I get it now. Ted and Heidi Cruz wanted their children to be safe, to have basic sanitary services like heat and running water, to leave behind a third-world apocalyptic nightmare for a safer place. Like so many parents before them, they decided to cross the Mexican border.
Where did you get that?
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There’s plenty more

When he “liked” a porn post on Twitter, Rafael “Ted” Cruz blamed a staffer.

When the people he incited stormed the Capitol, he blamed the left.

When GOP policy left TX without power, he blamed wind.

And when he snuck off to Cancun during a crisis, he blamed his kids.

And he wishes he could have snuck across the border.

He’s the only Rafael Cruz that could have gone to Mexico for 17 hours and not spent the next 17 being interrogated by ICE and DEA.
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There’s plenty more

When he “liked” a porn post on Twitter, Rafael “Ted” Cruz blamed a staffer.

When the people he incited stormed the Capitol, he blamed the left.

When GOP policy left TX without power, he blamed wind.

And when he snuck off to Cancun during a crisis, he blamed his kids.

And he wishes he could have snuck across the border.

He’s the only Rafael Cruz that could have gone to Mexico for 17 hours and not spent the next 17 being interrogated by ICE and DEA.
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What does all that biased and disputable "get" have to do with the legality of going to Cancun. Did he cross the border illegally? If he did, he should be prosecuted and either imprisoned or fined or returned to where he came from. As should all illegal border crossers.
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Ted’s shortest Spring Break was obviously him seeking a refuge from the conditions in the USA
Refugees are not illegal immigrants per USA and international law
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Ted’s shortest Spring Break was obviously him seeking a refuge from the conditions in the USA
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Ted didn't break any law. He did not try to sneak across the border and make some incognito residence in Mexico. If he had, Mexico would have jailed him and deported him.

There is a process for refugees to enter. Clandestine unvetted caravans is not part of the process.

You seem to be advocating for millions of folks being able to sneak in and settle here. And seem to be saying that all of them are "refugees." Immigrating to another country in order to make a better life does not qualify for refugee status.

You seem to be saying that borders, or at least US borders, are what is illegal or just plain wrong.

Do you advocate for anyone just walking in and setting up residence? Do you believe we should accept a constant flow of millions of people because they were impoverished in the place from whence they came? There are around 700 million people worldwide who are impoverished. Should they all be allowed to, unannounced, come on in?
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