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10-02-2020, 08:15 PM
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are they putting them underwater in texas?
is there anything preventing them from mailing their "mail-in" ballots?
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If you read 1 County in Texas it the size of RI. With 1 voting Drop box
Not sure why your against voting as people see fit. In person by mail or drop box
Its there choice not yours
Republicans want to provide Americans the hardest choice possible then use your line whos preventing them from voting |
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10-03-2020, 12:38 AM
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why not let everyone text their vote in?...that would be easy
are you guys really this dumb?
what is "easy"...is going to your polling place on election day, showing your id to prove that you are who you are matching your name on the voter roll and casting your ballot....or...if you can't get to the poll, requesting and absentee ballot prior to the election.
democrats continue to complicate the system by claiming they are making it "easy" for everyone...the stupidity of not asking for id's...mailing out millions of unsolicited ballots....voting long before election day....extending times for vote counts...preparing for all sorts of legal challenges all create more chaos...because ultimately they are bent on undermining the system because they can't accept a system in which they lose..it's the democrats who don't accept the outcomes of elections....which is why they are talking about eliminating the electoral college, packing the court, creating new states, changing the voting age to 16, non-citizens voting in addition to their constant undermining of our voting procedures
no one is making it "harder" for people to vote...it was never hard
no one is preventing anyone from voting
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10-03-2020, 06:41 AM
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The Republican Party has been working on voter suppression since the 80s
Forty years ago Paul Weyrich, the influential conservative strategist who founded the Heritage Foundation told evangelical leaders, “As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
In 1982, the Republican National Committee came under a court-ordered consent decree prohibiting it from engaging in voter-intimidation tactics aimed at communities of color—tactics designed to deprive Blacks of their right to vote. The decree was updated after further attempts at intimidation in 1987, and again in 1990. Despite more violations in 2004, federal courts let the decree expire in 2017. Freed from the decree, the RNC has plans to recruit up to 15,000 poll watchers in key states to challenge voters they deem suspicious, precisely the tactics that led to the original court order. True, intimidation is not really denying people their right to vote; it merely scares them from doing so.
The 5-4 conservative majority Supreme Court 2013 decision in Shelby County v. Holder gutted a key provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the pre-clearance requirement for jurisdictions with a history of voter discrimination. That cleared the way for a flurry of laws enacted by Republican-controlled legislatures intended to reduce voter turnout, all in the name of preventing virtually non-existent voter fraud. One of the most egregious was North Carolina’s voter ID law, struck down by a federal appeals court for attempting to deny Blacks their right to vote with “almost surgical precision.”
Returning to the present day, the Trump campaign and the RNC are pouring millions of dollars into blocking Democratic attempts to make it easier to vote. The RNC fought all the way to the Supreme Court, but lost its suit to keep Rhode Island from removing witness requirements on its absentee ballots.
Indeed, the GOP is pursuing its legal strategy with “surgical precision.” Last week the Trump campaign and the RNC filed lawsuits in two Democratic-leaning Iowa counties that Trump lost by 40,000 votes in 2016, aimed at preventing election officials from easing the application process for absentee ballots. At issue: pre-populating the applications with the voter’s information to reduce rejection rates. The move could invalidate thousands of applications already returned. No lawsuit was filed in a third county that also pre-populated the applications. In that Republican-leaning county, Trump won in 2016 by 8,500 votes.
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10-03-2020, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
what is "easy"...is going to your polling place on election day, showing your id to prove that you are who you are matching your name on the voter roll and casting your ballot....or...if you can't get to the poll, requesting and absentee ballot prior to the election.
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10-03-2020, 08:09 AM
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are you guys really this dumb?
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Are you really this classless?
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10-03-2020, 08:27 AM
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#66
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Originally Posted by scottw
why not let everyone text their vote in?...that would be easy
are you guys really this dumb?
what is "easy"...is going to your polling place on election day, showing your id to prove that you are who you are matching your name on the voter roll and casting your ballot....or...if you can't get to the poll, requesting and absentee ballot prior to the election.
democrats continue to complicate the system by claiming they are making it "easy" for everyone...the stupidity of not asking for id's...mailing out millions of unsolicited ballots....voting long before election day....extending times for vote counts...preparing for all sorts of legal challenges all create more chaos...because ultimately they are bent on undermining the system because they can't accept a system in which they lose..it's the democrats who don't accept the outcomes of elections....which is why they are talking about eliminating the electoral college, packing the court, creating new states, changing the voting age to 16, non-citizens voting in addition to their constant undermining of our voting procedures
no one is making it "harder" for people to vote...it was never hard
no one is preventing anyone from voting
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Wow your clearly on the Trump Train,, i guess COVID-19 isnt the real reason for the move to mail in ballots and drop. Boxes is it..
You best line is dems can't accept a system in which they lose..
All while Being wilfully ignorant of who aka what party keeps changing the system from reduced polling places ids I guess a DNA sampleswill be next on their list. So they can't lose the list is endless.. Just like your excuses..:rotflmao
Hell there even against moving voting to a weekend |
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10-03-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The Republican Party has been working on voter suppression since the 80s
Forty years ago Paul Weyrich, the influential conservative strategist who founded the Heritage Foundation told evangelical leaders, “As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
In 1982, the Republican National Committee came under a court-ordered consent decree prohibiting it from engaging in voter-intimidation tactics aimed at communities of color—tactics designed to deprive Blacks of their right to vote. The decree was updated after further attempts at intimidation in 1987, and again in 1990. Despite more violations in 2004, federal courts let the decree expire in 2017. Freed from the decree, the RNC has plans to recruit up to 15,000 poll watchers in key states to challenge voters they deem suspicious, precisely the tactics that led to the original court order. True, intimidation is not really denying people their right to vote; it merely scares them from doing so.
The 5-4 conservative majority Supreme Court 2013 decision in Shelby County v. Holder gutted a key provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the pre-clearance requirement for jurisdictions with a history of voter discrimination. That cleared the way for a flurry of laws enacted by Republican-controlled legislatures intended to reduce voter turnout, all in the name of preventing virtually non-existent voter fraud. One of the most egregious was North Carolina’s voter ID law, struck down by a federal appeals court for attempting to deny Blacks their right to vote with “almost surgical precision.”
Returning to the present day, the Trump campaign and the RNC are pouring millions of dollars into blocking Democratic attempts to make it easier to vote. The RNC fought all the way to the Supreme Court, but lost its suit to keep Rhode Island from removing witness requirements on its absentee ballots.
Indeed, the GOP is pursuing its legal strategy with “surgical precision.” Last week the Trump campaign and the RNC filed lawsuits in two Democratic-leaning Iowa counties that Trump lost by 40,000 votes in 2016, aimed at preventing election officials from easing the application process for absentee ballots. At issue: pre-populating the applications with the voter’s information to reduce rejection rates. The move could invalidate thousands of applications already returned. No lawsuit was filed in a third county that also pre-populated the applications. In that Republican-leaning county, Trump won in 2016 by 8,500 votes.
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In spite of all that, regardless of how you want to interpret the motives, it's still easy to vote without having to, as Scott said, "democrats continue to complicate the system by claiming they are making it "easy" for everyone...the stupidity of not asking for id's...mailing out millions of unsolicited ballots....voting long before election day....extending times for vote counts...preparing for all sorts of legal challenges all create more chaos...because ultimately they are bent on undermining the system because they can't accept a system in which they lose..it's the democrats who don't accept the outcomes of elections....which is why they are talking about eliminating the electoral college, packing the court, creating new states, changing the voting age to 16, non-citizens voting in addition to their constant undermining of our voting procedures." |
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10-03-2020, 06:53 PM
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Baloney
As usual
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10-03-2020, 06:57 PM
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Baloney
As usual
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Wrong as usual. Do you still claim that Trump never condemned white supremacism? |
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10-03-2020, 07:40 PM
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He did, sort of
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10-03-2020, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
He did, sort of
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Actually, he explicitly did, several times. So, I assume, we won't here that lie from you again. Or . . . maybe your gotta say it narrative tick will kick in again . . . over . . . and over. |
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10-03-2020, 08:50 PM
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It’s always sort of
Never a clear alignment
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10-03-2020, 08:57 PM
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It’s always sort of
Never a clear alignment
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No. Several times it was specific, explicit, and completely aligned. |
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10-04-2020, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
In spite of all that it's still easy to vote
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WDMSO "Republicans want to provide Americans the hardest choice possible then use your line whos preventing them from voting"
PAUL S "Why don't the Rs want to make it easier to vote? Isn't that one of the most important things citizens should do? Why make it harder for people to vote?"
this sounds incredibly whiny to me...
how about this....if voting is soooo important....be an adult....get to your polling place on election day and show your ID and cast your ballot...if you can't do that, then follow the procedures to procure an absentee ballot...again...be an adult
if voting is sooo important...people shouldn't have to be dragged to the polls one way or the other and badgered relentlessly to cast their ballot
next the democrats will want to include a cash voucher in the mail out/mail in ballots so that recipients get paid for doing their civic duty...like paid volunteers  ...or maybe a lottery, like publisher's clearing house "if you mail in your ballot you'll be entered in our election sweepstakes"......I shouldn't give them ideas
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10-04-2020, 07:25 AM
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Wrong as usual. Do you still claim that Trump never condemned white supremacism?
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Sure, wink wink.
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10-04-2020, 07:41 AM
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🤫👇🏿
Jul 29, 2020 11:19:55 AM
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood... [Twitter for iPhone]
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10-04-2020, 11:44 AM
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Sure, wink wink.
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With the abundance of videos and quotes from mainstream media sources of him condemning white supremacy and racism, and bigotry, and hate, why the wink wink? |
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10-04-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
🤫👇🏿
Jul 29, 2020 11:19:55 AM
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood... [Twitter for iPhone]
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Do you promote discriminating against suburbanites. |
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10-06-2020, 07:57 AM
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Liban Osman tells FOX 9 he was offered $10,000 by phony Project Veritas & James O’Keefe “insider” Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Rep. Ilhan Omar.
https://www.fox9.com/news/subject-of...-offered-bribe
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10-06-2020, 11:05 AM
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From your link, it sounds like a he said she said and possibly another trial to try to determine the truth. |
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10-06-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
From your link, it sounds like a he said she said and possibly another trial to try to determine the truth.
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Always a lot of fog around Project Veritas |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-06-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Always a lot of fog around Project Veritas
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There is this perpetual fog the left and its media cronies create around everything that is "coservative" or Republican or pro-Trump. And you regurgitate and hyperbolize the fog. |
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10-06-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
There is this perpetual fog the left and its media cronies create around everything that is "coservative" or Republican or pro-Trump. And you regurgitate and hyperbolize the fog.
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Pete is a super spreader
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10-06-2020, 01:41 PM
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Poor victims
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10-06-2020, 01:52 PM
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Poor victims
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You have no empathy. |
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10-06-2020, 02:10 PM
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Trumplicans cry all the time how they are mistreated
Poor babies, just like Tweety
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10-06-2020, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Trumplicans cry all the time how they are mistreated
Poor babies, just like Tweety
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You have no empathy. |
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10-06-2020, 08:03 PM
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You have no empathy.
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Ah, but I obviously do.
I entertain your weak arguments that try and make Tweety a leader.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-06-2020, 08:57 PM
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Ah, but I obviously do.
I entertain your weak arguments that try and make Tweety a leader.
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I stand corrected. You're obviously very compassionate. Your posts drip with compassion. |
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10-06-2020, 09:52 PM
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If true and Stephen Miller did get COVID; this is a turning point for the pandemic.
The virus has jumped species.
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