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Old 10-06-2021, 12:36 PM   #1
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Did I deny that?

I gave the reason why, but you think that there is a magic thing that stops illegal immigration without doing anything about the things that push people to leave where they are.

Just think how bad things would have to be to take your family and go to an unknown place.

No immigration reform has been done since Reagan, who did it with a Democratic Congress.
oh, so crossings are up, but it’s Trumps fault, of course.
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Old 10-06-2021, 01:17 PM   #2
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oh, so crossings are up, but it’s Trumps fault, of course.
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Well, crossings consistently dropped from the Bush administration thru the Obama ultimately reaching lows of less than 50K until 2019 in the Trump administration when they exploded to over 130K.

Trump reduced immigration a little before the Covid-19 pandemic reduced it a lot.

Trump sharply reduced immigration flows that are easy for a president to control, refugees being the most obvious example, and struggled with the rest.

Trump couldn't even deport as many illegals as Obama.

Illegal immigration has always been a push pull and you can change it in two ways, have a great recession which historically cut illegal immigration significantly or improve things in the countries that people feel forced to leave.

The current Republican minority in Congress is obviously trying for the former.

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Old 10-06-2021, 01:13 PM   #3
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are there more illegal crossings now than under trump? yes or no?

i give trump bad marks on the border, he campaigned on sealing it up but didn’t.

but crossings have skyrocketed under this administration. can you admit that? No you can’t.
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Really and no cause and effect discussion, come on get real. You call Pete a political hack, yet you somehow are blaming this administration for an increase in crossings, that’s the pot calling the kettle black. Could it be natural disasters, political unrest and many other factors result in the increase.
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Old 10-06-2021, 02:32 PM   #4
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A lot of folks can't tell the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Stephen Miller.

They bear an uncanny physical resemblance - and also share the ability to spread nationalistic hate.

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Old 10-06-2021, 03:15 PM   #5
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A lot of folks can't tell the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Stephen Miller.

They bear an uncanny physical resemblance - and also share the ability to spread nationalistic hate.
There's a whole lot of differences between them, as there are between any human from either of them. Except for identical twins, it's easy find differences from any two humans. But you didn't note all the differences between Goebbels and Miller. You claimed a couple of what you consider similarities--which, in themselves, are superficial. Hell, even you have the ability to spread hate. I have perfect confidence in you that you could do the same with the nationalistic kind.

Of course, you had a bit of an agenda which gave you the opportunity to score another one of your "crose enough" tricks.
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Old 10-06-2021, 03:07 PM   #6
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Would hypocrisy be like this?

Brett Kavanaugh: ‘I’m a devout Catholic.’

Vatican: ‘Pope wants the execution of a man with mental acuity of a child to be stopped.’

Kavanaugh: ‘I’m not THAT kind of Catholic.’

or that the Catholic church hierarchy in this century and the last wanted to protect the unborn and molest the young?

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Old 10-06-2021, 03:15 PM   #7
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Would hypocrisy be like this?

Brett Kavanaugh: ‘I’m a devout Catholic.’

Vatican: ‘Pope wants the execution of a man with mental acuity of a child to be stopped.’

Kavanaugh: ‘I’m not THAT kind of Catholic.’

or that the Catholic church hierarchy in this century and the last wanted to protect the unborn and molest the young?
no that’s not hypocritical, because he’s supposed to decide cases based on what the constitution says, not what the pope says. this is news to you?

if you want him deciding death penalty cases based on his faith? how about abortion cases?

all of the hierarchy wanted to molest the young? or a sick minority?

aren’t you tired of humiliating yourself in this thread? it’s embarrassing, and too easy to bitch slap you.
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Pete, from Psychology today, a higher percentage of public school teachers have been accused of abusing kids, than priests. yet we only talk about priests, because teachers are sympathetic to liberalism. so you, and the media, give them a pass.

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Old 10-06-2021, 07:23 PM   #9
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Pete, from Psychology today, a higher percentage of public school teachers have been accused of abusing kids, than priests. yet we only talk about priests, because teachers are sympathetic to liberalism. so you, and the media, give them a pass.

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Are you actually a teen aged girl or just playing one?
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And an interesting bit from Jim's attack piece on Warren...

"when in reality, a genealogist found she is a scant 1/32 Cherokee."

It's pretty absurd that while attacking Warren for claiming to be a Native American the author would be so sloppy as to ADMIT that she is one

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Old 10-06-2021, 07:32 PM   #11
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And an interesting bit from Jim's attack piece on Warren...

"when in reality, a genealogist found she is a scant 1/32 Cherokee."

It's pretty absurd that while attacking Warren for claiming to be a Native American the author would be so sloppy as to ADMIT that she is one



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Old 10-06-2021, 07:37 PM   #12
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And an interesting bit from Jim's attack piece on Warren...

"when in reality, a genealogist found she is a scant 1/32 Cherokee."

It's pretty absurd that while attacking Warren for claiming to be a Native American the author would be so sloppy as to ADMIT that she is one

and you abandoned your other defenses if her, after i shredded them, see.

one more time. if she attacks banks for making money off foreclosures, why is it ok for her to make
money off foreclosures ( which even you conceded she did)?

f she says it’s exploitative to issue student loans to college kids, why is it ok when a fair amount of student loan money funded her $400,000 salary at harvard??

how come she can attack others for doing what she herself does?
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and you abandoned your other defenses if her, after i shredded them, see.

one more time. if she attacks banks for making money off foreclosures, why is it ok for her to make
money off foreclosures ( which even you conceded she did)?

f she says it’s exploitative to issue student loans to college kids, why is it ok when a fair amount of student loan money funded her $400,000 salary at harvard??

how come she can attack others for doing what she herself does?
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Jim why attack warren and even mention the Indian thing ? but remain silent when Republicans who are not willing to pay Trumps credit card bill which includes his unpaid for tax cut? And are lying trying to make it about fiscal responsibility that only their gullible base is buying !

Republicans have raised the debt ceiling 31 time Dem 12. But Republicans have abandoned facts over fiction

Military spending is is approximately $753. 39 billion a YEAR

Yet Republicans are against 3.5 trillion over 10 years that will be paid for by getting rid of Trumps reckless tax cuts So much for American 1st


President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law in December 2017. CBO forecasts that the 2017 Tax Act will increase the sum of budget deficits (debt) by $2.289 trillion over the 2018-2027

The budget deficit increased from $779 billion in FY2018 to $984 billion FY2019, up $205 billion or 26%. The budget deficit increased from $666 billion in FY2017 to $779 billion in FY2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17.0%.[10] The 2019 deficit was an estimated 4.7% GDP, up from 3.9% GDP in 2018 and 3.5% GDP in 2017. The historical average deficit is 2.9% GDP.[11] During January 2017, just prior to President Trump's inauguration, CBO forecast that FY2019 budget deficit would be $610 billion if laws in place at that time remained in place. The $984 billion actual results represents a $374 billion or 61% increase versus that forecast, driven mainly by tax cuts and additional spending. Similarly, the FY 2018 budget deficit of $779 billion was a $292 billion or 60% increase versus that forecast.[12]

Fiscal responsibility on display Republicans style
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Jim why attack warren and even mention the Indian thing ? but remain silent when Republicans who are not willing to pay Trumps credit card bill which includes his unpaid for tax cut? And are lying trying to make it about fiscal responsibility that only their gullible base is buying !

Republicans have raised the debt ceiling 31 time Dem 12. But Republicans have abandoned facts over fiction

Military spending is is approximately $753. 39 billion a YEAR

Yet Republicans are against 3.5 trillion over 10 years that will be paid for by getting rid of Trumps reckless tax cuts So much for American 1st


President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law in December 2017. CBO forecasts that the 2017 Tax Act will increase the sum of budget deficits (debt) by $2.289 trillion over the 2018-2027

The budget deficit increased from $779 billion in FY2018 to $984 billion FY2019, up $205 billion or 26%. The budget deficit increased from $666 billion in FY2017 to $779 billion in FY2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17.0%.[10] The 2019 deficit was an estimated 4.7% GDP, up from 3.9% GDP in 2018 and 3.5% GDP in 2017. The historical average deficit is 2.9% GDP.[11] During January 2017, just prior to President Trump's inauguration, CBO forecast that FY2019 budget deficit would be $610 billion if laws in place at that time remained in place. The $984 billion actual results represents a $374 billion or 61% increase versus that forecast, driven mainly by tax cuts and additional spending. Similarly, the FY 2018 budget deficit of $779 billion was a $292 billion or 60% increase versus that forecast.[12]

Fiscal responsibility on display Republicans style
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why bring up when democrats lie? we’re ONLY supposed to discuss lying when republicans do it.

as scott said, there are two ways, not just one, to improve the balance sheet. Controlling spending is the other. granted, no one in the gop cares about cutting spending when there’s a republican in the white house. but some of the conservatives here said trump spent way too much money, and we were right.

how much of your neighbors paycheck are you entitled to? and how much is he entitled to? is there any limit?
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Wayne. When someone gives you back some of the money that they’ve taken from you…..it’s not a “cut”…..”fiscal responsibility” is not wringing more money out of taxpayers because you can’t control your urge to spend
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Ironic coming from the master of creating political volcanos out of trifling molehills. Or who pastes together a $hitload of closely resembling facts and factoids, opinions, comparisons, conjectures, and insinuations (and some lies) in order to create a narrative which looks or sounds "crose enough" to reality to resemble an actually feasible argument.

Anyway, your post didn't contain enough coherent or meaningful thought to warrant any responsive thought or overthinking. It was interesting only in the unintended contradiction.
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Ironic coming from the master of creating political volcanos out of trifling molehills. Or who pastes together a $hitload of closely resembling facts and factoids, opinions, comparisons, conjectures, and insinuations (and some lies) in order to create a narrative which looks or sounds "crose enough" to reality to resemble an actually feasible argument.

Anyway, your post didn't contain enough coherent or meaningful thought to warrant any responsive thought or overthinking. It was interesting only in the unintended contradiction.
That meets the definition of verbal diarrhea
But more coherent than most of the YouTube videos you post
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That meets the definition of verbal diarrhea
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