Trump calls press enemy of the people

[wdmso]

Here we go again >>> look forwarded to how some are going to convince us this is just another nothing burger


Lets use the Maxine waters standard That the right uses to say she was inciting violence.. to evaluate what Trump said FYI the POTUS ..

[Slipknot]

I don't know what he said but are you saying he is not entitled to his own opinion because he is President? Is this something he should be impeached for?

The press should stick to reporting and not propaganda and antagonizing. They used to be Journalists but something happened years ago.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I don't know what he said but are you saying he is not entitled to his own opinion because he is President? Is this something he should be impeached for?

The press should stick to reporting and not propaganda and antagonizing. They used to be Journalists but something happened years ago.

its funny the thread about the new justice is booming with giddy glee from Trump lovers ...


But him calling the press the enemy of the people and I get one excuses


"I don't know what he said but are you saying he is not entitled to his own opinion because he is President?"


Really I told you what he said??? you just dont care and clearly have a View of America that lacks a historical view ....

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by wdmso

its funny the thread about the new justice is booming with giddy glee from Trump lovers ...


But him calling the press the enemy of the people and I get one excuses


"I don't know what he said but are you saying he is not entitled to his own opinion because he is President?"


Really I told you what he said??? you just dont care and clearly have a View of America that lacks a historical view ....

His exaggerations do not surprise me at all, the country elected Archie Bunker. I have no control over what he spouts off about just as I have no control over what the media spins things as.

You told me what he said, well alright, that is fine if it's an exact quote with no other context then what are you looking for? Enemy of the people, ok what people? the half of the country that is not against him? He calls them fake news also, so what? He is crude and speaks his mind, you would rather have a weak feeble pushover? Not me, I am ok with someone that does not back down.

I care a lot.
Your opinion of my view of America has no bearing on anything whether you are right or wrong. Clearly some Americans wish to erase certain history and we all know who they are.

I think the reactions from the left are a result of his successes and they can't handle it, they have no answers for solutions and only want more power and bigger government.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

He is crude and speaks his mind, you would rather have a weak feeble pushover? Not me, I am ok with someone that does not back down.

This is precisely what concerns me.

Speaking his mind shows he’s a pathological liar, feasts in conspiracy theories, doesn’t understand policy or history and can’t seem to grasp more than a one ingredient recipe.

But it’s ok because he stands his ground.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

This is precisely what concerns me.

Speaking his mind shows he’s a pathological liar, feasts in conspiracy theories, doesn’t understand policy or history and can’t seem to grasp more than a one ingredient recipe.

But it’s ok because he stands his ground.
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Obviously, Jim is wrong, you're not going berserk.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is precisely what concerns me.

Speaking his mind shows he’s a pathological liar, feasts in conspiracy theories, doesn’t understand policy or history and can’t seem to grasp more than a one ingredient recipe.

But it’s ok because he stands his ground.
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Bush, McCain, and Romney, are decent to the core. You don’t agree with them on policy, but they are men of integrity. And the left, and the media, attacked him without mercy.

Trump brings much of it upon himself, but is also attacked in deranged fashion.

So what is the right supposed to do, Spence, in order to get a presidential candidate treated fairly?

Your side created Trump with the way they treated McCain and Romney. You still don’t get it.

Trump won, and he is fulfilling more campaign promises than the country is used to, and many things are working. The left can’t handle that their queen bee got creamed by a jerk who actually knows how to get things done, and who could care less about how things have always worked in the swamp.
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[Jim in CT]

He should not be using that language. He should tell the truth, which is that most of them are shameless, ideological, elitist liars. But he can’t show diplomacy to his opponents, he’s not mature enough. Wdmso, I don’t know who you think the trump apologists are here, but there aren’t many here. When he does something I like i say so, and when he acts like a horses ass, many non-liberals here will say so. It’s the lefties here who cannot ever, ever criticize their own ranks. Maybe you have this confused with another site.

As to Maxine Waters, I love her, and hope she runs for president. Every time she opens her big, fat, disgusting, red mouth, money gets donated to the Gop. She’s probably doing more good for conservatism that Charles Krauthammer ever did.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He should tell the truth, which is that most of them are shameless, ideological, elitist liars.

Who are you talking about?
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[Jim in CT]

Wdmso, he also said yesterday that journalists deserve not to be in fear they will be attacked. I see you left that part out. I wonder why.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wdmso, he also said yesterday that journalists deserve not to be in fear they will be attacked. I see you left that part out. I wonder why.
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Ahh so he gets to be Arsonist (the press is the enemy of the American people )

And then Fireman (journalists deserve not to be in fear they will be attacked.)

I get it you have no issue with a sitting POTUS calling the free press the enemy of the people Do you even have a line he can't cross


Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


below sums it up nicely by David Malcolm


Trump’s thoughts and prayers are worthless at this point. It is sheer hypocrisy to suddenly care about journalists when you’ve spent over a year and a half denouncing and abusing them. Donald Trump is a liar and he hates the press because many are willing to call him out on his lies. They are willing to stand up to him and so, he decides to paint them as the enemy. In doing so, he is deliberately undermining the whole principle of the First Amendment, the right to freedom of speech.

Words are powerful things. As we’re seeing now, the language we use, and the language we allow to go unchallenged, can have far-reaching consequences for all of us.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ahh Trump gets to be Arsonist (the press is the enemy of the American people )

And then Fireman (journalists deserve not to be in fear they will be attacked.)

Trump has not advocated that journalists be attacked. This is a FAKE NEWS tactic.


I get it you have no issue with a sitting POTUS calling the free press the enemy of the people Do you even have a line he can't cross

Trump has done nothing to abridge the freedom of the press. He has every right to free speech as does the Press.

Donald J. Trumpagains✔
@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

I agree that FAKE NEWS is an enemy of the American People. The Press has its speech constitutionally protected so that the people can be truthfully informed. When the Press uses its speech to influence the people to vote for its agenda by taking extreme liberties with the truth, exaggerating, lying, resorting to various forms of yellow journalism, it is, indeed, an enemy of the American people.

below sums it up nicely by David Malcolm


Trump’s thoughts and prayers are worthless at this point. It is sheer hypocrisy to suddenly care about journalists when you’ve spent over a year and a half denouncing and abusing them. Donald Trump is a liar and he hates the press because many are willing to call him out on his lies. They are willing to stand up to him and so, he decides to paint them as the enemy. In doing so, he is deliberately undermining the whole principle of the First Amendment, the right to freedom of speech.
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Words are powerful things. As we’re seeing now, the language we use, and the language we allow to go unchallenged, can have far-reaching consequences for all of us.

As the author says, words are powerful things. And if the language of the FAKE NEWS is allowed to go unchallenged, it can have far reaching consequences for all of us.

Mr. Malcolm should know that. But, then, he most likely thinks that he and his are the purveyors of truth, and everyone else is a liar. That is a dangerous way to think. That is an enemy of the people

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ahh so he gets to be Arsonist (the press is the enemy of the American people )

And then Fireman (journalists deserve not to be in fear they will be attacked.)

I get it you have no issue with a sitting POTUS calling the free press the enemy of the people Do you even have a line he can't cross


Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


below sums it up nicely by David Malcolm


Trump’s thoughts and prayers are worthless at this point. It is sheer hypocrisy to suddenly care about journalists when you’ve spent over a year and a half denouncing and abusing them. Donald Trump is a liar and he hates the press because many are willing to call him out on his lies. They are willing to stand up to him and so, he decides to paint them as the enemy. In doing so, he is deliberately undermining the whole principle of the First Amendment, the right to freedom of speech.

Words are powerful things. As we’re seeing now, the language we use, and the language we allow to go unchallenged, can have far-reaching consequences for all of us.

You say I have no issue with his calling the press the enemy. Are you illiterate? I mean that, can you read? Read my response.
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[Jim in CT]

And trump has not only been attacked for what he has done, there have been plenty of false stories and reporters getting punished by their superiors. I have zero issue with honest, fair criticism. And if you think all media criticism has been fact based, you aren’t paying any attention. He’s being called hitler.
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[Jim in CT]

Wdmso, and obama said that republicans “ gotta stop just hating all the time.” I guess that’s ok...when you say words matter, you only hold republicans to that standard. Try making that wrong.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wdmso, and obama said that republicans “ gotta stop just hating all the time.” I guess that’s ok...when you say words matter, you only hold republicans to that standard. Try making that wrong.
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That’s the hipocracy David Malcolm speaks of, he should know from experience if he is a leftists like the others. God help this country.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

That’s the hipocracy David Malcolm speaks of, he should know from experience if he is a leftists like the others. God help this country.
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Mr. Malcolm's version of FAKE NEWS in the article he wrote and which wdmso cites is so blatantly made up to make Trump responsible for the shooting that I don't understand why Wayne buys into it. The Shooter of The Capital Gazette employees has been a danger for years. He has had a dispute with the newspaper and various other people long before Trump was elected or said anything about FAKE NEWS and has been viewed with fear by many who knew him. One of those who knew him predicted he would be a mass shooter. There is no known connection between him and Trump or no known response by him to what Trump has said about FAKE NEWS. The only connection between Ramos and what Trump said is the fake assumed connection made up by Malcolm and other media types in order to make Trump the one who is the real danger to this country and to freedom of the Press.

Trump is right to call out the FAKE NEWS. And yes, Fake News, is a danger to the Republic, and so, IS an enemy of the people.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Mr. Malcolm's version of FAKE NEWS in the article he wrote and which wdmso cites is so blatantly made up to make Trump responsible for the shooting that I don't understand why Wayne buys into it. The Shooter of The Capital Gazette employees has been a danger for years. He has had a dispute with the newspaper and various other people long before Trump was elected or said anything about FAKE NEWS and has been viewed with fear by many who knew him. One of those who knew him predicted he would be a mass shooter. There is no known connection between him and Trump or no known response by him to what Trump has said about FAKE NEWS. The only connection between Ramos and what Trump said is the fake assumed connection made up by Malcolm and other media types in order to make Trump the one who is the real danger to this country and to freedom of the Press.

Trump is right to call out the FAKE NEWS. And yes, Fake News, is a danger to the Republic, and so, IS an enemy of the people.

you must have this bumper sticker on your car " The constitution and the 1st amendment for every one but the press (enemies of the state )

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

That’s the hipocracy David Malcolm speaks of, he should know from experience if he is a leftists like the others. God help this country.
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calling the press enemys of the people and “ gotta stop just hating all the time.” Ya they are exactly the same more false equivalences

The republic is in danger because of enablers such as yourself Jim and Detbunch and nostalgia..

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

calling the press enemys of the people and “ gotta stop just hating all the time.” Ya they are exactly the same more false equivalences

The republic is in danger because of enablers such as yourself Jim and Detbunch and nostalgia..

I didn’t say the statements were the same. But they both clearly show that trump and obama were each willing to demonize those who disagree with them. They were both thin skinned, vindictive babies with zero tolerance for criticism. One was just much more eloquent about it. Big whoop.
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[Pete F.]

Of course she is part of the lefts apparatus
Just remember he’s the guy who said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and you’d still support him.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/trum...e-stories.html
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Of course she is part of the lefts apparatus
Just remember he’s the guy who said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and you’d still support him.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/trum...e-stories.html
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I can understand using the same tactic to discredit that portion of the press that it uses to discredit him. If leftist press is free to put out whatever language it can to bring him down, as some have admitted to doing, Trump is just as free to return the favor.

What's so hard to understand about that?

The Progressive press knows well the consequence to its agenda if Trump can succeed in having his agenda passed. It was predicted that it would go all out, non-stop, to bring him down. And it has been exactly that, an everyday negative story, many exaggerated, hanging on the thin edge of reality, many totally wrong. Without an equal response, he might well have been forced to quit due to the unanswered perception of him cast by the media.

The notion that the press is unbiased has been discredited in the past decade or two. Those of us who are on various forms of the "right" have known it long before that. The mainstream media used to claim it was unbiased. We knew that to be untrue. Now, everyone knows there is a biased divide in leftist and rightist media.

And the rhetoric is no longer couched in careful words meant to sound impartial. It is divisive, harsh, biased, and purposely meant to destroy the opposition. This has been brewing to a boiling point, and the fire was started long before Trump.

Trump presents an existential threat to the left. It will try to destroy him in any way it can get away with.

And the leftist notion that he is attacking The Press is a lie conjured to cast Trump as a villain who is about destroying a hallowed institution. He specifically verbally attacks FAKE NEWS, not The Press.

[Pete F.]

If bias is a form of fake, would there not be fake news on the right?
While I can find an analysis by the right claiming that Politifact for example is biased, where is the analysis by the right of things claimed by politicians and there veracity?
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[Pete F.]

If you catch a big fish and the picture gets in the paper and you tell the reporter that it is the biggest fish ever, you are the greatest fisherman, would you call them fake news for only reporting that you caught a big fish or do they need to just accept your claims as truth?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you catch a big fish and the picture gets in the paper and you tell the reporter that it is the biggest fish ever, you are the greatest fisherman, would you call them fake news for only reporting that you caught a big fish or do they need to just accept your claims as truth?
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You guys keep claiming that we are saying things that aren't even close to what we said (and one only does that, when one cannot respond to what was actually said, and I get that, you aren't holding any cards).

It's fair to call him out for the things he actually says and does. It's not fair to fabricate things, nor is it fair to virtually ignore the good he is doing. When he acts badly, criticize him, when he does something productive, give him credit. Your side can't do it, they just can't.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You guys keep claiming that we are saying things that aren't even close to what we said (and one only does that, when one cannot respond to what was actually said, and I get that, you aren't holding any cards).

It's fair to call him out for the things he actually says and does. It's not fair to fabricate things, nor is it fair to virtually ignore the good he is doing. When he acts badly, criticize him, when he does something productive, give him credit. Your side can't do it, they just can't.

Here is a recent report on Trump exaggeration, of course since they don't toe the party line they also are fake.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...y-eisenhower-s
Sorry, but he doesn't deserve the superlatives he awards himself.
Just because you claim more than you are due, doesn't mean you get it.
He certainly deserves a participation award.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here is a recent report on Trump exaggeration, of course since they don't toe the party line they also are fake.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...y-eisenhower-s
Sorry, but he doesn't deserve the superlatives he awards himself.
Just because you claim more than you are due, doesn't mean you get it.
He certainly deserves a participation award.

I didn’t say he was awesome. But he’s nowhere near, I mean nowhere near, the cartoon villain the left and the media make him out to be. How many times has the media mentioned lowest black unemployment ever, and how many times have they mentioned Russia? Now I’m not saying russia isn’t a legitimate story, but it’s not the only story. Your side has lost its mind, absolutely lost its mind. Unemployment is down, take home pay is up, and the best idea you have is to let grown men share a bathroom with little girls if they identify that way.
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[wdmso]

CNN LEFT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.Factual Reporting: MIXED
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180

Fox RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy Factual Reporting: MIXED
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180

NBC CBS ABC LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

BBC LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH


New york Times Washington post LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180


wallstreet journal RIGHT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Right-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH


So in a nut shell media bias is another manufactured lie from the far far right that has now gained wide support thru out the GOP and its Supporters ... if all we had was CNN and FOX it would be a wash

But the rest of the press listed have Factual Reporting some a little bias both ways.... But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him... 9 out 10 report the same story Trump supporters are going with the 10ths versions of events aka FOX

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So in a nut shell media bias is another manufactured lie from the far far right that has now gained wide support thru out the GOP and its Supporters ... if all we had was CNN and FOX it would be a wash

It's not a lie. Your source (World Press Freedom?) says that all the media you listed have a bias left or right. And they all use loaded words which attempt to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes.

Not mentioned is editorial slant. What is "factual reporting"? Do any report extensively on all "facts"? For instance, is there extensive reporting on the jailing of Tommy Robinson or on the facts he has been bringing to light?

But the rest of the press listed have Factual Reporting some a little bias both ways.... But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him... 9 out 10 report the same story Trump supporters are going with the 10ths versions of events aka FOX

9 out of 10 report the same story? Is there some collusion that they choose to reflect each other? Or are they motivated by the same bias?

Has anyone rated World Press Freedom? Does it have a bias?

You lie when you say "But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him..." It's not ALL fake news, but much of it is, including minimization or omission of positive news re Trump.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

9 out of 10 report the same story? Is there some collusion that they choose to reflect each other? Or are they motivated by the same bias?

Has anyone rated World Press Freedom? Does it have a bias?

You lie when you say "But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him..." It's not ALL fake news, but much of it is, including minimization or omission of positive news re Trump.

The argument as usual is baseless, with no substance other than you claim that it is true.
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