voter fraud mantra begins

[wdmso]

Here we go again with the classic Republican mantra of voter fraud

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Absentee Ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can’t get to the polls on Election Day. These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is “RIPE for FRAUD,” and shouldn’t be allowed! ( they are the same thing??)



this Time its mail in Ballots
so now allowing people how to use absentee Ballots during a pandemic to give them a choice over go vote or get an absentee ballot and choose how you wish to vote and be safe ... is seen as Bad and full of Fraud .. Classic

but get this Kentucky Secretary of State Michael Adams said he got his "head taken #^&#^&#^&#^& by some fellow Republicans for his plan to send every registered voter a postcard telling them how they can easily apply for an absentee ballot for the state's June 23 primary.

Republican state officials who want to expand absentee and mail-in voting during the pandemic have found themselves in an uncomfortable position due to their party's rhetoric.

President Trump has claimed repeatedly, without providing evidence, {no surprise }that mail-in voting is ripe for fraud and bad for the GOP.
He and other Republicans have charged that Democrats might use it to "steal" the election...

there are 21 states who already vote by mail in one form or another

Republicans are against early voting ( they call it early and often) they are against changing election day to the weekend they are against allowing poll stations or auto voting registration

Two-thirds of Americans (67%) say everything possible should be done to make it easy for every citizen to vote, but Republicans – especially conservative Republicans – are less likely to hold this view

Conservative Republicans are also the only partisan-ideological group in which a majority (60%) favors removing people from registration lists if they have not voted recently or confirmed their registration.

its funny the want to make it easy for states to open or Liberate them

but they are just the opposite when it comes to making voting easier for the working man ...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

but they are just the opposite when it comes to making voting easier for the working man ...

voting actually isn't that tough...people "the working man" do it all the time and have for a very long time

[Sea Dangles]

Conservative Republicans are evil people and do nothing other than support the citrus Caligula.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

voting actually isn't that tough...people "the working man" do it all the time and have for a very long time

glad you think 53% of voters voted Avg the past 20 years for POTUS is a good thing and why try to make it easier to increase theses numbers

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

glad you think 53% of voters voted Avg the past 20 years for POTUS is a good thing and why try to make it easier to increase theses numbers

voting is a choice

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Conservative Republicans are evil people and do nothing other than support the citrus Caligula.
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its their stance and policy in writing please dont let the facts muddy the conversation

[Jim in CT]

Wayne, do you really not think that mail-in ballots are more conducive to fraud, than in-person voting?

What's the harm in expecting people to vote in-person if at all possible? It's amazing to me, that this is controversial.

For the people who don't vote, are most making a free choice? Or does the current system suppress them somehow?

[scottw]

need to force people to wear masks and vote....

[Nebe]

But how can they gerrymander and restrict voting if they have to let people vote by mail?
I think if we could vote by mail or over the internet, most sitting POS politicians would be flushed out like soggy turds.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

its their stance and policy in writing please dont let the facts muddy the conversation

I am trying to bolster your viewpoint.👍🏿
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

But how can they gerrymander and restrict voting if they have to let people vote by mail?
I think if we could vote by mail or over the internet, most sitting POS politicians would be flushed out like soggy turds.
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Gerrymandering is a separate issue, it should be barred. Both sides do it, and it should never be allowed. You can still gerrymander with internet voting, one has nothing to do with the other.

And I don't see that you answered my question.

I don't see how requiring in-person voting, favors one political party over the other. If anything, republicans tend to live in more rural areas, meaning they'd have to go further to vote.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Just imagine how many disillusioned voters will just let their 6 year old go ahead and check a box.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think if we could vote by mail or over the internet

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the russians like your idea

[Pete F.]

It’s all well and good to claim that going to vote is not dangerous because you can just wear a mask, the problem is that during this pandemic nobody wants to staff the polls and that itself creates lines and people being unable to vote
Are you willing to work on the election and be exposed to everyone in your district
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s all well and good to claim that going to vote is not dangerous because you can just wear a mask, the problem is that during this pandemic nobody wants to staff the polls and that itself creates lines and people being unable to vote
Are you willing to work on the election and be exposed to everyone in your district
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They've had elections recently in CA and WI. We have plenty of time to see if the polling volunteers got sick in big numbers.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s all well and good to claim that going to vote is not dangerous because you can just wear a mask, the problem is that during this pandemic nobody wants to staff the polls and that itself creates lines and people being unable to vote
Are you willing to work on the election and be exposed to everyone in your district
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Is that any different from staffing Walmart or the supermarkets. We ask them to show up every day, where we’re only looking for one day for the polls.

And yes, I would work the polls if needed.
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[Pete F.]

There have been issues with closed voting locations and with lines, long waits and polling places closing before all could vote in primaries this spring and primaries are not nearly the volume of a presidential election.

How do you determine an acceptable number of dead volunteers?
Or does right to life stop at birth?

[Sea Dangles]

If only natural selection included the Bitchslappedboy
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There have been issues with closed voting locations and with lines, long waits and polling places closing before all could vote in primaries this spring and primaries are not nearly the volume of a presidential election.

How do you determine an acceptable number of dead volunteers?
Or does right to life stop at birth?

As TDF said, we are asking Walmart employees to show up for very little pay. Why is this so different?

We accept some risk. If not, we would ban automobiles and have people walk around, think of how many lives that would save. But we don't do that.

There's always a trade off between safety and quality of life. We don't always strive to minimize death in every situation. Not even close.

Yes Pete, saying that we should live our lives but take precautions, is the same as saying "right to life stops at birth". That's precisely what we're saying.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Is that any different from staffing Walmart or the supermarkets. We ask them to show up every day, where we’re only looking for one day for the polls.

And yes, I would work the polls if needed.
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It hasn't worked for the primaries so far.

It's not something anyone other than the town clerk is required to do in Vermont and volunteers are hard to come by in town government even without a pandemic.

I assume your town would welcome the help, thanks for volunteering. If you do it, I'm sure you will find it educational and afterwards I'll ask you, if you think there is widespread election fraud.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Sorry Pete, you’re wrong and I don’t agree with you and nothing you say from here on out will change my mind.

The End
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[wdmso]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1193489]Wayne, do you really not think that mail-in ballots are more conducive to fraud, than in-person voting?

What's the harm in expecting people to vote in-person if at all possible? It's amazing to me, that this is controversial.

For the people who don't vote, are most making a free choice? Or does the current system suppress them somehow?

republicans have been suppressing the vote for decades you must have missed all the examples Since the 2010 elections, 24 states have implemented new restrictions on voting. Alabama now requires a photo ID to cast a ballot. Other states such as Ohio and Georgia have enacted "use it or lose it" laws, which strike voters from registration rolls if they have not participated in an election within a prescribed period of time.[/QUOTE]

One must ask how did we vote before 2010 and why would the laws to vote need to be changed ?

do we cry military and other absentee ballots are riddled with fraud?
the below already do all mail ballots..

State Statutes on All-Mail Elections
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

whats shocking is Mail in voting is controversial with only the ..republicans why? time and time again they cry voter fraud and then are not be able to present this massive fraud they insist exist

Voting is a choice why not make that choice as easy as possible

I dont trust Mobile voting or internet voting

being against mail in voting because the fear of voter fraud.. are the same people who protest state lockdowns crying freedom dressed for combat .. saying Covid 19 is a hoax when we know voter fraud is the real hoax but they will insist that its real

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Voting is a choice why not make that choice as easy as possible

I dont trust Mobile voting or internet voting

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=wdmso;1193523]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wayne, do you really not think that mail-in ballots are more conducive to fraud, than in-person voting?

What's the harm in expecting people to vote in-person if at all possible? It's amazing to me, that this is controversial.

For the people who don't vote, are most making a free choice? Or does the current system suppress them somehow?

republicans have been suppressing the vote for decades you must have missed all the examples Since the 2010 elections, 24 states have implemented new restrictions on voting. Alabama now requires a photo ID to cast a ballot. Other states such as Ohio and Georgia have enacted "use it or lose it" laws, which strike voters from registration rolls if they have not participated in an election within a prescribed period of time.[/QUOTE]

One must ask how did we vote before 2010 and why would the laws to vote need to be changed ?

do we cry military and other absentee ballots are riddled with fraud?
the below already do all mail ballots..

State Statutes on All-Mail Elections
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

whats shocking is Mail in voting is controversial with only the ..republicans why? time and time again they cry voter fraud and then are not be able to present this massive fraud they insist exist

Voting is a choice why not make that choice as easy as possible

I dont trust Mobile voting or internet voting

being against mail in voting because the fear of voter fraud.. are the same people who protest state lockdowns crying freedom dressed for combat .. saying Covid 19 is a hoax when we know voter fraud is the real hoax but they will insist that its real

I think that republicans have don terrible things to try and suppress the vote in some isolated cases. I don't see how telling people they need to show up in a 12 hour window, keeps more democrats from voting than republicans.

The right to vote is sacred. I have zero desire to put my ballot in my mailbox. I don't want anyone in my blue state who knows how I vote, to take it out of my mailbox. I don't want my mailman handling it. I want to know for sure my vote is counted. You can't guarantee that with mail, and don't even bother talking about internet voting, nowhere near secure enough.

[wdmso]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1193527]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I think that republicans have don terrible things to try and suppress the vote in some isolated cases. I don't see how telling people they need to show up in a 12 hour window, keeps more democrats from voting than republicans.

The right to vote is sacred. I have zero desire to put my ballot in my mailbox. I don't want anyone in my blue state who knows how I vote, to take it out of my mailbox. I don't want my mailman handling it. I want to know for sure my vote is counted. You can't guarantee that with mail, and don't even bother talking about internet voting, nowhere near secure enough.

Iam not for internet voting either ..

From my understanding most places mail in ballots are just an option ..you can still go to your polling place
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[wdmso]

Florida has determined a state law that would have required felons to pay any outstanding court fees and fines before they can register to vote is unconstitutional.

constitutional amendment overwhelmingly approved by Florida voters in 2018 overturning a 150-year-old law that permanently

Guess who passed this law Republicans!! they hold the majority in Fla because they didn't respect the will of the people ,, they did the only thing they know Cheat and voter suppression

[detbuch]

30K More Registered Voters Than Eligible Voters In Detroit

https://www.gopusa.com/?p=89316?omhide=true

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

30K More Registered Voters Than Eligible Voters In Detroit

https://www.gopusa.com/?p=89316?omhide=true

And?? Are they all democrats?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

30K More Registered Voters Than Eligible Voters In Detroit

https://www.gopusa.com/?p=89316?omhide=true

So a tabloid quotes a tabloid who references a man who wrote a book about how the left is trying to steal the election.

Please go on.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And?? Are they all democrats?
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Well . . . it is Detroit. The voting mechanisms and procedures are run by Democrats in Detroit. The chance that the 30,000 names, if such names actually exist and are alive, being Republican are slim.

But does that matter? We are told that voting fraud is mostly a hoax. And that the chances of mailed ballots being fraudulent are slim.

The fact that Detroit has gathered 30,000 fraudulent registered voters is obviously a fraud. So if a vote is cast for those fraudulent names, it will be a huge voting fraud--regardless of which party for whom the vote is cast. And if the ballots are mailed in, rather than cast in person, the fraud is not detectable.

The subject of your thread is voter fraud mantra.

We are told that voter fraud is negligible. And that there is no evidence otherwise. Right . . . .