Lie-awatha is at it again

[Jim in CT]

Senator Warren says Elon Musk is a free loader who doesn’t pay his fair share.

Musk will reportedly pay $11 billion in federal taxes for 2021.

We can talk all we want about how unfair it is that someone is worth tens of billions of dollars while others struggle, and you get zero argument from me that it’s unfair.

But paying $11 billion sure isn’t freeloading.

Princess Lies Through Her Teeth is a US Senator in the party which also controls the House and the white house. so if they want to make the federal income taxes more progressive, who’s stopping them?

She’s a lying, bitter, angry, unlikeable little shrew.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

She’s a lying, bitter, angry, unlikeable little shrew.

Takes one to know one Jim.

And please stop mocking my heritage, it's not a good look.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Takes one to know one Jim.

And please stop mocking my heritage, it's not a good look.

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"Takes one to know one Jim"

I am cracking up over this, not angry at all.

If you don't care that she hijacked your heritage for personal gain, it would appear you aren't actually that sensitive to it. So spare us your selective, fake outrage.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If you don't care that she hijacked your heritage for personal gain, it would appear you aren't actually that sensitive to it. So spare us your selective, fake outrage.

I'm not sure getting a recipe into a cookbook is a great example of personal gain. She took a DNA test that even confirmed she does have some Native American blood. She just can't trace it back to the Dawes Rolls.

Musk has paid no tax previously despite billions in income. He says he's against government assistance yet takes billions in Federal subsidies. Total hypocrite.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not sure getting a recipe into a cookbook is a great example of personal gain. She took a DNA test that even confirmed she does have some Native American blood. She just can't trace it back to the Dawes Rolls.

Musk has paid no tax previously despite billions in income. He says he's against government assistance yet takes billions in Federal subsidies. Total hypocrite.

"I'm not sure getting a recipe into a cookbook is a great example of personal gain"

I agree.

But getting a gig at Harvard paying 400k a year, would qualify as a good example of personal gain.

"She took a DNA test that even confirmed she does have some Native American blood"

Yes, and if I remember correctly, her Native American DNA was between 1/64th and 1/512th of her total DNA.

Musk has paid no tax previously"

Did he break the law? If he didn't break the law, and you're unhappy with his taxes, then your issue is with the tax law. Right now, your side controls the entire federal government, so if you're unhappy with tax law, guess who that means you have a beef with?

As of 2020, Tesla had 71,000 employees in the US. That's 71,000 jobs created, 71,000 families whose livelihood Musk is responsible for. That, plus $11 billion in taxes this year. Are we entitled to more than $11 billion from him?

"yet takes billions in Federal subsidies. Total hypocrite"

Again, take it up with your congressional delegation if you think federal policy is so stupid. Do you pay more than the law says you must? If the federal government offers subsidies to makers of electric cars, Musk should turn that money down, and give an advantage to his competitors?

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But getting a gig at Harvard paying 400k a year, would qualify as a good example of personal gain.

There's no evidence this had any impact on her being hired.

Yes, and if I remember correctly, her Native American DNA was between 1/64th and 1/512th of her total DNA.

Amount of blood usually only matters if the tribe distributes revenue from say a casino or other business. The Cherokee tribe grants citizenship to any amount of blood as long as you have the right documentation. She still shouldn't have checked the box but this scandal is so freaking overblown it's ridiculous.

[Pete F.]

Since 1995, the top 1% took 38% of all additional wealth. The bottom half took 2%.

The last time things were this imbalanced was the period right before the Great Depression. Hard for people to survive when all the money goes to those who don't need it.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Senator Warren says Elon Musk is a free loader who doesn’t pay his fair share.

Musk will reportedly pay $11 billion in federal taxes for 2021.

We can talk all we want about how unfair it is that someone is worth tens of billions of dollars while others struggle, and you get zero argument from me that it’s unfair.

But paying $11 billion sure isn’t freeloading.

Princess Lies Through Her Teeth is a US Senator in the party which also controls the House and the white house. so if they want to make the federal income taxes more progressive, who’s stopping them?

She’s a lying, bitter, angry, unlikeable little shrew.

So a D Senator who actually has Indian blood and who you thinks is a liar gets you more upset than having almost all R Senators (and like 2/3 of all Rs ) lying about who won the last election.

Seems like the Rs are the ones who are lying, bitter, angry and more and more unlikeable little shrews.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So a D Senator who actually has Indian blood and who you thinks is a liar gets you more upset than having almost all R Senators (and like 2/3 of all Rs ) lying about who won the last election.

Seems like the Rs are the ones who are lying, bitter, angry and more and more unlikeable little shrews.

she’s got as much indian blood as many, many people who don’t claim to be native american. she made that claim, in an application for a job at harvard paying $400,000 a year.

if you don’t sense anything the least but suspicious about that, of course that’s your right.

i’m very upset about republicans believing that stupid lie. i don’t like it at all, it undermines our credibility.

Fair enough? i’m much more concerned about republicans believing the big lie. at the same time it’s hysterical that this fraud of a senator ( its ok for her to get rich off college students, and it’s ok for her to get rich flipping foreclosures, but she says it’s immoral when everyone else does it - does that upset YOU?) calls someone a freeloader who has created 70,000 jobs in the US and is about to pay more than $10 billion in federal income tax.

He’s contributed infinitely more than Princess Spreading Bull ever will.

But he’s a freeloader.

Makes all kinds of sense.

Paul, what’s your opinion of a senator who makes tons of money off of college students and flipping foreclosed houses, who at the same time shrieks in front of cameras that it’s immoral for banks to do the same exact thing? why is it ok when she does it? why is she entitled to enrich herself in ways she’d deny to others?

Looking forward to your answer.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

she’s got as much indian blood as many, many people who don’t claim to be native american. she made that claim, in an application for a job at harvard paying $400,000 a year.

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She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

Actually she was recruited for the position because of her stellar resume. The checked the Native American box for the directory after she was hired. The two main people who recommended Harvard hire her were interview and said that no idea of any claimed native heritage.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school facultybut you are claiming something else - that she was hired BECAUSE she claimed she was Indian. . they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat? Well, you're making the accusation but don't seem to have any (zero) proof of the claim.

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.

So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Ah, Stable Genius II
She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family.
Now tell us how as a purportedly rational person you decried that behavior and then support Mnuchin, or is he another guy you don’t really like
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[Jim in CT]

and if the democrats want a wealth tax, what’s stopping them
from implementing one? Do we need to remind Warren that she’s a US Senator from the party that controls the entire federal government? I love it when they act like they’re helpless to do anything. Tell her to write to her congressman i guess, like the rest of us.
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[Pete F.]

Elon Musk has with the aid of his corporate structure and paid lobbyists decimated middle America
All the corporatists are killing the America that was great.
The middle class is consistently shrinking

Since 1995, the top 1% took 38% of all additional wealth. The bottom half took 2%.

The last time things were this imbalanced was the period right before the Great Depression. Hard for people to survive when all the money goes to those who don't need it
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Since 1995, the top 1% took 38% of all additional wealth. The bottom half took 2%.


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took or created?...whose wealth did Elon Musk take?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

took or created?...whose wealth did Elon Musk take?

exactly, exactly, exactly.

Liberals can’t concede the notion of creating wealth. to them, it can only be stolen. To Pete, wealth is finite, it’s like a pizza. If Musk takes. ire for himself, that means there’s less for the rest of us. It’s laughably stupid. they act as if GDP is a fixed number, it never changes.

I’d love to see him respond to this.

Musk has created 71,000 jobs in the US and is about to pay $11B in taxes. And he’s a net negative to America, because he’s not an uber liberal. Notice they aren’t attacking warren buffet or jeff bezos.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Since 1995, the top 1% took 38% of all additional wealth. The bottom half took 2%.


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In 2018, the top 1% paid 40% of total federal income tax. Thats pretty in line with their percentage of wealth.

Pete in another post, you bragged about how the uber wealthy are now democrats. Yet here you are demonizing them. Which is it?

Also, if our tax system is way too friendly to the wealthy, why aren’t democrats ( who run everything) doing anything to fix it?

It was always be imbalanced, and in a healthy economy that imbalance will grow, because they have more money to invest. if the s&p500 grows by 20% next year, and i have $100,000 in the stock market but warren buffer has $20 billion in the stock market, he profits more than i do.

Who cares? He will pay taxes on it, spend some, put some in the bank, invest some, give some
to charity, all of which helps the country.

How would you change that? would you pass a law that says after your net worth exceeds some amount, you have to keep all your money in your mattress?

They aren’t stealing from you, not much anyway. They get some subsidies for sure that they don’t need.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...e-us-taxes.amp

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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

In 2018, the top 1% paid 40% of total federal income tax. Thats pretty in line with their percentage of wealth.

Pete in another post, you bragged about how the uber wealthy are now democrats. Yet here you are demonizing them. Which is it?

Also, if our tax system is way too friendly to the wealthy, why aren’t democrats ( who run everything) doing anything to fix it?

It was always be imbalanced, and in a healthy economy that imbalance will grow, because they have more money to invest. if the s&p500 grows by 20% next year, and i have $100,000 in the stock market but warren buffer has $20 billion in the stock market, he profits more than i do.

Who cares? He will pay taxes on it, spend some, put some in the bank, invest some, give some
to charity, all of which helps the country.

How would you change that? would you pass a law that says after your net worth exceeds some amount, you have to keep all your money in your mattress?

They aren’t stealing from you, not much anyway. They get some subsidies for sure that they don’t need.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...e-us-taxes.amp

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Total thefts per year: $13 billion
Wage theft by companies per year: $15 billion

News stories this year on shoplifting: 11,600
News stories this year on wage theft: 2,000

Total police officers: 700,000
Investigators focused on wage theft: 765
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[wdmso]

Buy borrow die.

How the ultra rich avoid taxes
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Buy borrow die.

How the ultra rich avoid taxes
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in 2018, the top 1% of earners paid 40% of all federal income tax. how much more of other people’s money are you entitled to? is there any limit?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...e-us-taxes.amp
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[Pete F.]

If you work full-time at the federal minimum wage you qualify for food stamps and Medicaid (which we all pay for).

Stop asking if businesses can afford higher wages and start asking why we're all paying to subsidize their low wages.

Remember when you’re claiming that the wealthy are to be worshipped that if companies were really "forced to raise prices" because of inflation they would have been "forced to lower prices" after they got $1.9 trillion in tax cuts. But they didn't - they raised prices then, too.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you work full-time at the federal minimum wage you qualify for food stamps and Medicaid (which we all pay for).

Stop asking if businesses can afford higher wages and start asking why we're all paying to subsidize their low wages.

Remember when you’re claiming that the wealthy are to be worshipped that if companies were really "forced to raise prices" because of inflation they would have been "forced to lower prices" after they got $1.9 trillion in tax cuts. But they didn't - they raised prices then, too.
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some businesses can afford higher wages, some absolutely cannot.

not every job in our economy was designed for an adult to support a family on. Go to your local mom and pop pizzeria, tell them they have a moral obligation to pay bus boys and cashiers $40,000 a year. when they stop laughing, tell me what they said.

people won’t eat out if a large pie costs $50.

I never said i worship the wealthy, i’m sure plenty of them are jerks. But i don’t irrationally demonize them either. No one would be better off if they all burned their money and became poor. They do a ton to relieve the financial burden on the rest of us.

one day you’re bragging that the wealthy are now democrats, now you’re demonizing them.

Make up your mind, are you proud the wealthy vote democrat, or not? Which is it?
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[Pete F.]

Billionaires can write-off private jets on their taxes, but teachers can only write-off up to $250 for school supplies on theirs.

This is what happens when we allow billionaires to buy our politicians.

Get dark and corporate money out of politics and elect an unbought Congress.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Billionaires can write-off private jets on their taxes, but teachers can only write-off up to $250 for school supplies on theirs.

This is what happens when we allow billionaires to buy our politicians.

Get dark and corporate money out of politics and elect an unbought Congress.
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you dodged my question.

i taught public school, teachers have absolutely nothing to complain about. nothing. their benefits absolutely dwarf anything available to normal people in the private sector.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

teachers have absolutely nothing to complain about.

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nobody complains more...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Billionaires can write-off private jets on their taxes

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and fly them to Davos to complain about climate change....I bet you get carbon tax credits for the amount of complaining you do about climate change at those conferences...probably hand them out like free drink coupons

[Pete F.]

Jim seems to thinks you’re better off to be a teacher than a poor mistreated billionaire, hmm
And Scott thinks he’s the only one allowed to complain, seemingly about not getting free drinks though it looks like he may have had too many
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim seems to thinks you’re better off to be a teacher than a poor mistreated billionaire, hmm
And Scott thinks he’s the only one allowed to complain, seemingly about not getting free drinks though it looks like he may have had too many
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you hear an awful lot of things, which no one has ever said. have you noticed that?

i said teachers are treated well, and that’s true. i’ve taught, and i’ve worked in the private sector. i’m in a decent position to say that. teachers, especially in Ct where your salary can easily be 100k and you can start collecting a 75k a year pension before age 60, are treated well. they’re not super wealthy, but certainly a married couple who both teach, are upper middle class. pretty good deal for a public servant. and once you get tenure, you basically can’t get fired except for egregious offenses.

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