Johns Hopkins University says US was most prepared country in world for pandemic

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim’s been shown wrong on this topic so many times I’m not sure which side he’s on.
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the democrats and media didn’t say trump overreacted, and that the virus didn’t justify a drastic response? Did Pelosi and DiBlasio tell their constituents in late february that it was safe to go out in crowded public places? or am i making that up?
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the democrats and media didn’t say trump overreacted, and that the virus didn’t justify a drastic response? Did Pelosi and DiBlasio tell their constituents in late february that it was safe to go out in crowded public places? or am i making that up?
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Ask yourself the important question, who is caption of the ship, if he steered the ship on the right course we collectively would not have run aground on the ledge. The caption owns it regardless of what others around him say or do, but you keep harping on it like it changes anything.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Ask yourself the important question, who is caption of the ship, if he steered the ship on the right course we collectively would not have run aground on the ledge. The caption owns it regardless of what others around him say or do, but you keep harping on it like it changes anything.

The ship metaphor doesn't work for our constitutional system of government.

Our country is not like a ship. More like a bunch of different boats, ships, planes, cars, pedestrians, and infinitely more.

The President does not have the nearly absolute power of a ship's captain.

The citizens are not all riding the same vehicle, nor heading for the same destination, nor working in unison for the same objective, nor in support of the President.

Not only are the citizens destinations, beliefs, philosophies, desires, opinions, not the same, they conflict, oppose, fight, seek to change leaderships and directions, and do whatever is necessary to defeat leaders, including the President, including to lie about anything he does or says.

China is much more like a ship than is the U.S.

As an opponent of the President, you can say that nothing he does is right, all that you claim is wrong is due to him and he owns it, and he doesn't own all that may be going well because it is due to his predecessor who still owns it even though he is no longer the captain.

[Got Stripers]

Actually it works just fine, leaders lead by example and his example, inaction, constant downplay, questioning the medical experts, to the refusal to wear a mask has cost more lives than have been taken by terrorists is this country. He loves big numbers, that’s not one he or you should be proud of. Carry on, back to fishing and golf.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Actually it works just fine, leaders lead by example and his example, inaction, constant downplay, questioning the medical experts, to the refusal to wear a mask has cost more lives than have been taken by terrorists is this country. He loves big numbers, that’s not one he or you should be proud of. Carry on, back to fishing and golf.

inaction. ok. who was calling for
more drastic action back in january? nobody. not republicans, sure as hell not democrats.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Actually it works just fine, leaders lead by example and his example, inaction, constant downplay, questioning the medical experts, to the refusal to wear a mask has cost more lives than have been taken by terrorists is this country. He loves big numbers, that’s not one he or you should be proud of. Carry on, back to fishing and golf.

No, the captain of a ship does not work "just fine" as a metaphor for President of the United States. See my above explanation for "example." And your cliche bromide "leaders lead by example" doesn't either. Different leaders lead in different ways. Even a given leader often uses different ways to lead. Captains of ships lead firstly by command. They may or may not have personal qualities that set examples that are worth following.

And the rest of your post here is just biased, slanted, opinion--an "example" of a sort of pontification. Carry on.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No, the captain of a ship does not work "just fine" as a metaphor for President of the United States. See my above explanation for "example." And your cliche bromide "leaders lead by example" doesn't either. Different leaders lead in different ways. Even a given leader often uses different ways to lead. Captains of ships lead firstly by command. They may or may not have personal qualities that set examples that are worth following.

And the rest of your post here is just biased, slanted, opinion--an "example" of a sort of pontification. Carry on.

My metaphors were perfect regardless of your opinion and here are some Trump metaphors the Post published for your displeasure.

Godzilla:
“He’s like Godzilla. Everything they throw at the monster makes him stronger.” — Bill Maher
A '90s rapper:
The whole thing is here from the now-defunct “Nightly Show.” (Basically he likes gold, he has his own cologne and vodka, and he has lots of beefs.)
DJ Khaled:
“Loud, arrogant, kind of corny. They both have catchphrases.” — comedian Hannibal Burress
A Batman villain:
“Is he like a Batman villain? In many ways he is. But our last guy in that office often reminded me of a Bond villain” — Batman writer and Trump voter Chuck Dixon
A carnival barker:
“We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers.” — President Obama in 2011
The whole carnival:
“He is less the carnival barker than the full cast — the lion, the fire-eater, the clown with the seltzer — all trussed into a single-breasted Brioni suit.” — New Yorker's Evan Osnos
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A Geiger counter:

Nicholas Kristof
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@NickKristof
Maybe Trump is like a Geiger counter: The more noise he makes, the closer we're getting to some big and radioactive truth. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...25771858251776 …
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
FAKE NEWS media knowingly doesn't tell the truth. A great danger to our country. The failing @nytimes has become a joke. Likewise @CNN. Sad!

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A Navy SEAL:
“As somebody said to me yesterday, Donald Trump is like a Navy SEAL; he never backs down when he’s in a fight” — Fox News's Steve Doocy
A cancer:
“Let no one be mistaken Donald Trump’s candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded.” — Rick Perry (in 2015)
An autoimmune disease:
“ … The way this election is shaping up, the better analogy might be an autoimmune disease. Such illnesses result from our body’s natural defenses being marshalled against it with destructive results. Trump is exploiting our political immune system to the detriment and potentially grave peril of the republic. He’s taken what actually makes America great, the systems of government designed to foster public good — the courts, the press, our charity and financial systems — and used them for personal gain at the body politic’s expense.” — The Guardian's Lucia Graves
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A grilled cheese sandwich:
“I see a guy who seems to pause and dig for the more precise and better language he wants to use, and never finds it. It’s the same dish — it’s a grilled cheese sandwich rhetorically over and over again.” — Alec Baldwin
A serial killer (and the media is his prey):
SETH MEYERS: Yeah. It's a weird dance. It's like one of those movies where the serial killer is also clearly in love with the person who's trying to arrest him.
RACHEL MADDOW: So you're Clarice?
SETH MEYERS: Yeah, Clarice, yeah. The press is Clarice, and he's Lecter. It's like a cat and mouse game and like, he's definitely gonna kill some other people, but maybe not me.
A rattlesnake:
“It's like a rattlesnake taking a path through the dirt, but suddenly he shows off his fangs, and you don't expect that to happen with any of the others.” — New York Times columnist Frank Rich
A “wife who makes passionate love to you every day, seven days a week”:
“When you have a wife who makes passionate love to you every day, seven days a week, all men get up and smile my wife’s going to make love to me. When you have a wife who hates you and you sleep in opposite bedrooms, guess what? You wake up in a bad mood. So I’ve got a president who likes me now instead of one who hates me. Don’t you think it’s going to put me in a good mood and I’m going to want to hire people? Of course it does!” — former Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee Wayne Allyn Root
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Your drunk uncle:
“He reminds me of, like, your drunk uncle at a wedding who gets up and starts talking and just loves the crowd and just goes on and on and on and says whatever he can to get a reaction.” — Susan Sarandon
A monkey:
“The ego here is — well it’s something. By the way, his teeth come out like it's simian almost. It’s simian, like a monkey banging with a stick. You know, ‘I’m the biggest. I’m the biggest.’ Pounding his chest. It does have a simian quality to it, I mean primordial, I should say.” — MSNBC host Chris Matthews
A game show host:
“He came out of reality show television. He's like a game show person. There's no truth to it. There's no center to it. … With him, there's no beef there, there's no protein, there's no center.” — Richard Gere
A Real Housewife:

Andy Cohen
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Sweetie you are a first season Real Housewife making stuff up to stay on the show. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...13078076719107 …
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@realDonaldTrump
What about all of the contact with the Clinton campaign and the Russians? Also, is it true that the DNC would not let the FBI in to look?

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A quarterback calling audibles:
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“It’s like running audibles at the line of scrimmage. What’s in his playbook? I’m sitting back watching y'all. I don’t want to offend nobody and say the nothing the wrong way, but at the same time I’m confused.” — Snoop Dogg
A random impulse generator:
“He’s so unpredictable. He’s so mercurial. You know, I would be no more surprised if he stood up there and declared amnesty for all illegal immigrants to the United States than if he said he was going to take them all out to be shot. He’s like a random impulse generator.” — Michael Chabon
A fall breeze:
“Like a brisk fall breeze through Amarillo’s trees, President Donald Trump’s first few weeks have brought forth all the country’s loose and flaky elements.” — Letter writer in the Amarillo Globe-News
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

My metaphors were perfect regardless of your opinion

Your metaphor was ridiculous.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Ask yourself the important question, who is caption of the ship, if he steered the ship on the right course we collectively would not have run aground on the ledge. The caption owns it regardless of what others around him say or do, but you keep harping on it like it changes anything.

you are 100% correct, trump
owns the results. absolutely.

any chance you can show me the same courtesy, and answer my question? here goes...

we know that biden attacked trump for the january travel restrictions. he said trump
was fear mongering, which necessarily means that biden thought the travel ban was an unnecessary reaction ( he also called it bigoted, but let’s ignore that for now).

Biden didnt suggest doing anything differently. he just criticized what trump did.

so what reason is there for
any sane person to believe, that we’d be better off right now if biden was president?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Ask yourself the important question, who is caption of the ship

is this a trick question?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the democrats and media didn’t say trump overreacted, and that the virus didn’t justify a drastic response? Did Pelosi and DiBlasio tell their constituents in late february that it was safe to go out in crowded public places? or am i making that up?
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spence you ran away instead of answering. probably hiding under your bed clutching your obama poster. how about answering?
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[Pete F.]

Being prepared does not equate to the best response and in this case it certainly did not.

All states faced the same essential threat from this virus, and each government’s response is a kind of laboratory experiment.

The United States had the advantage of being struck late by the virus, and this gave us a priceless chance to copy best practices and avoid the mistakes of others.

Tweety #^&#^&#^&#^&ed it up. The previous administrations had developed a playbook for pandemic response that drew in part on lessons from other countries’ experiences, but the Tweety administration disregarded it. When China began confining millions of people to their homes in January, Tweety should have gotten the message.
We lost six weeks in the United States to prepare, to build ventilators, get PPE, organize our ICUs, get tests ready, prepare the public for what was going to happen so that our economy didn’t tank as badly. None of this was pushed by Tweety's administration. He publicly insisted it was no problem.

By one estimate, from the epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell, if social-distancing policies had been implemented just two weeks earlier in March, 90 percent of the cumulative coronavirus deaths in the United States during the first wave of the pandemic might have been prevented.
Just imagine what bad things would have happened if Tweety's pressers in the Rose Garden had from the start, adopted social distancing and masks.
The wimp is still too vain and weak to wear a mask.

Rather than using tests that the WHO had distributed, Tweety's CDC insisted on developing its own, only to botch it.
Nations such as South Korea and Taiwan raced ahead of the U.S. in their efforts to contain the outbreak and they did not have the pole position at the start of the race.

As a number of countries planned and prepared for economic recovery, the United States has spent lockdown treading water. It has yet to roll out robust testing across the country, despite Tweety’s assertions since March that anybody who wants a test can get one. It has also failed to develop contact-tracing systems, as other nations have, and to flatten the curve outside the New York metro region.

Tweety's an incompetent clown.