Good God do I hate Elizabeth Warren

[nightfighter]

My alma mater, UMass Amherst, has chosen her to be their commencement speaker. Their reasons for recognizing her thusly made me want to puke. They will never see another dime from me.......

[tysdad115]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

My alma mater, UMass Amherst, has chosen her to be their commencement speaker. Their reasons for recognizing her thusly made me want to puke. They will never see another dime from me.......

You should make sure they know that, your reason for not contributing is their choice of her. Otherwise they'll never know.
Seems most colleges these days tend to preach that BS...Look at the wasted youth coming out of them now and their left ideology.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by tysdad115

Seems most colleges these days tend to preach that BS...Look at the wasted youth coming out of them now and their left ideology.
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That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

Liberty.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

The United States Military Academy
The United States Naval Academy
The United States Air Force Academy

Maybe some of the Jesuit schools like Holy Cross, but that's debatable.

And that's about it. College is becoming an intellectually subtractive experience.

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The United States Military Academy
The United States Naval Academy
The United States Air Force Academy

Maybe some of the Jesuit schools like Holy Cross, but that's debatable.

And that's about it. College is becoming an intellectually subtractive experience.

Mass Maritime
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

By the way, how does endless liberal indoctrination help those college kids, Paul? When they only way they can respond to someone who disagrees with them, is to throw a brick through a window, yes, that's quite an "esteemed" student body of violent, unthinking, brain dead anarchists your side is creating.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

By the way, how does endless liberal indoctrination help those college kids, Paul? When they only way they can respond to someone who disagrees with them, is to throw a brick through a window, yes, that's quite an "esteemed" student body of violent, unthinking, brain dead anarchists your side is creating.

Seems like the vast majority of the great universities are liberal. Good thing there are government schools of higher educ. or the cons. would be stuck w/liberty. I guess when you deny science you end up with crappy schools.

I never used to hear people refer to "your side" or "my side" until you started posting.

Man, do you have a lot of hate. It is constant.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Seems like the vast majority of the great universities are liberal. Good thing there are government schools of higher educ. or the cons. would be stuck w/liberty. I guess when you deny science you end up with crappy schools.

I never used to hear people refer to "your side" or "my side" until you started posting.

Man, do you have a lot of hate. It is constant.

"Seems like the vast majority of the great universities are liberal. "

Oh, I agree. But what I asked, and you dodged, was this - how does the pure liberalism, add to the greatness? Answer - it doesn't. Those schools are great because of the potential intelligence of the student body. That potential is not fully realized, when kids are indoctrinated to liberalism, and are taught that every single person who disagrees, is one of Hilary's deplorables.

The result is thoughtless liberal parrots who are unable to defend their ideas to any challenge, so they resort to rioting to shut down the challenger.

"I guess when you deny science you end up with crappy schools. "

So the side which says that a human embryo isn't distinguishable from a mole to be removed, gets to accuse me of denying science. If the global warming alarmists are correct on the science, how come NONE of their dire predictions have come true? I mean, to hear Al Gore tell it, you'd think North Dakota would be exporting pineapples and sugar cane by now.

"you end up with crappy schools"

Yeah, West Point doesn't turn out high quality kids, nope.

"Man, do you have a lot of hate"

You are the one, who in a few sentences, said that people who aren't liberals (1) deny science, and (2) are incapable of producing universities that aren't crappy. But I am the hatemonger. Got it.

I never used to hear people refer to "your side" or "my side" until you started posting."

Oh, I invented the concept of liberals and conservatives? Good lord...

Paul, how come at your elite liberal schools, the liberal students routinely riot to prevent conservatives from speaking, but the conservative students don't riot to prevent liberals from speaking?

YOU HAVE FUN WITH THAT. I look forward to your answer.

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[FishermanTim]

It seems like the colleges aren't preparing students for the real world, teaching them what they will need for their perspective majors, but rather teaching them what the school needs to teach them to keep them from spending their time and money elsewhere.
Convince the students that they learned a whole lot at the school and that they should "donate" to it to allow it to continue to "indoctrinate" others.

Why the hell do you think you have so many college grads WITH diplomas and degrees working as waiters and bag boys?

They learned ONLY what the school felt was necessary to graduate and move on. Influencing political views in students is like conditioning a dog to drool when you ring a bell....It's just too easy!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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Yeah, West Point doesn't turn out high quality kids, nope.
Isn't that a "government" school?
"Man, do you have a lot of hate"

You are the one, who in a few sentences, said that people who aren't liberals (1) deny science, and (2) are incapable of producing universities that aren't crappy. But I am the hatemonger. Got it.I think it had something to do with refering to a woman as wretched, horrible and refering to brain dean anarchist. It also has to do with your refering to people you don't like at POS and using the C word to refer to a woman. They way you respond to WDSMO Not normal behavior.

I never used to hear people refer to "your side" or "my side" until you started posting."

Oh, I invented the concept of liberals and conservatives? Good lord...Is that what you think I meant by that? I know you are smarter than that

Paul, how come at your elite liberal schools, the liberal students routinely riot to prevent conservatives I don't think it is all cons. just the flame throwers like Milo and Murray. When your goal is to insult people, don't be surprised when you draw the violent reaction you tried to provoke. from speaking, but the conservative students don't riot to prevent liberals from speaking?

YOU HAVE FUN WITH THAT. I look forward to your answer.

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Last time when Murray spoke at Middlebury college there was an uptick in racism (The N word written on Black's dorm room doors, etc).

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Seems like the vast majority of the great universities are liberal. Good thing there are government schools of higher educ. or the cons. would be stuck w/liberty. I guess when you deny science you end up with crappy schools.

I never used to hear people refer to "your side" or "my side" until you started posting.

Man, do you have a lot of hate. It is constant.

I agree that most universities, if they were true to their mission, would be liberal. The problem that Jim has is that he uses the term "liberal" rather than "progressive" or, even more pertinent in the case of universities, the terms "Marxist" or "leftist."

Universities, Western educational institutions in general, have increasingly shifted their identity from classical liberal toward leftist, "progressive" (which is actually regressive), or actually Marxist positions.

Classical liberal universities, such as Hillsdale, are a distinct minority. And they do not deny science. They teach it, even in its most modern form. Actually, science is not as "liberal" in its methodology as it is "conservative." It is dependent on fundamental laws and principles. But it is also open to new realities dependent on discovery of previously unknown material facts.

Marxism, leftism, is hyper-"conservative". They are unbending in their adherence to a "class struggle" model for the foundation of society. And they believe in an ultimate utopian material "heaven" on earth achieved through the political victory of some poorly identified "worker" class.

Progressivism is hyper-"liberal". It denies any foundational principles. For it, social existence is purely "relative" (even though relativism paradoxically relies on actual fundamental realities in order to be relative to each other). Progressivism is entirely situational. And situations (which constantly change in the view of Progressives) are temporarily defined by whoever has some appointed power to define. And the remedy for situations is decided by select "experts" with whom there can be no disagreement.

Neither Marxism/leftism nor Progressivism are really scientific in their methods of governing. Classical Liberalism is. The founding of our nation, and its Constitution are based on Classical Liberalism.

Discussing the divide between various forms of leftism and actual liberalism is not about hate. It is about thinking rationally.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

The military academies and that's about it. The ratio of liberal vs conservative educators at colleges in the northeast is around 16-1. That itself is what produces wing nut philosophies from those fortunate enough to be in attendance.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The military academies and that's about it. The ratio of liberal vs conservative educators at colleges in the northeast is around 16-1. That itself is what produces wing nut philosophies from those fortunate enough to be in attendance.
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And why the vast majority a blue-collar workers, the ones that are in the trades , or farming the fields and working in factories are conservatives . They have not been indoctrinated by the liberal college system . In other words, they are on "uneducated"
And .... if any female ever deserved the C word , it's Elizabeth Warren
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