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Old 12-03-2019, 02:52 PM   #1
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Trump farm bailout

Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

Auto 12 billion

Farm bail out 28 million

Republicans panned that bailout, saying that "free market" principles should have let the American auto makers to go under

just another example of historical amnesia
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Old 12-03-2019, 03:02 PM   #2
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Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

Auto 12 billion

Farm bail out 28 million

Republicans panned that bailout, saying that "free market" principles should have let the American auto makers to go under

just another example of historical amnesia
surely you can figure this out
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Old 12-03-2019, 03:04 PM   #3
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the automakers got themselves into a mess ( with a lot of help from labor unions, but let’s save that debate). The farmers didnt do this to themselves.

Trump deserves to be criticized for hurting farmers, no question. it’s a con in the list of pros and cons. .
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:17 PM   #4
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Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

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I heard he wanted to send 150 Brazillion to South America
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:09 PM   #5
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He claims the bailout is being paid by the money the government is getting from tariffs. Who knows. But doing the right thing can temporarily hurt some. In the long run, it will be better for all.
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:43 PM   #6
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He claims the bailout is being paid by the money the government is getting from tariffs. Who knows. But doing the right thing can temporarily hurt some. In the long run, it will be better for all.
if he gets a good deal with china, it will be well worth it.
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:44 PM   #7
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if he gets a good deal with china, it will be well worth it.
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How many bankrupt farmers are worth it? Name a number.
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Is there no bailout?
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:06 PM   #9
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Who pays the tariffs?
Why is socialism ok when Floridaman does it?
Next he’ll have five year agriculture plans for the farmers, the heroes of the State.
Meanwhile Xi is laughing at the 🤡 he knows he has him by the short hairs, he can decimate American exports and only lose some money and piss off some of his citizens and blame it on the 🤡
Meanwhile our manufacturers will have holes in their supply chains and be losing market share around the world to........China
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I hope they get to the bottom of this
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:35 AM   #11
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As expected the excuses sound like Comm Boat guys fishing in the Canal

So much for being against the government picking winners and losers

the auto bailout was crucial to reviving U.S. industry in the Great Recession. For one thing, the U.S. recovered all but about $9 billion of the auto bailout money.


How are we getting money back from farmers ?

its just funny to see what your for and what your against based on what Party does the bailing out.. it lacks any form of critical thinking
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I'm still trying to figure out how 28 million is more than double 12 billion
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i would hope none, which is why theres a bailout. Right? Isn’t that the reason for a bailout?
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I'm still trying to figure out how 28 million is more than double 12 billion
Do you have a calculator handy?
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Our great Farmers will recieve another major round of “cash,” compliments of China Tariffs, prior to Thanksgiving. The smaller farms and farmers will be big beneficiaries. In the meantime, and as you may have noticed, China is starting to buy big again. Japan deal DONE. Enjoy!
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Do you have a calculator handy?
Not one that does libmath


Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

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Do you have some reading glasses handy?
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Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

Auto 12 billion

Farm bail out 28 million


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Clearly this was a typo. The farm bailout has cost 28 billion. With a B....
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Arguing with an idiot again?
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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Trump's farm bailout has cost taxpayers more than double the auto bailout

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Every one else realized it was a typo and wasn't petty enough to post.
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Mr. Irrelevant.
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it's getting harder to tell if the irrational even know what they are writing any longer
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