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[Sea Dangles]

COVID related violence in Chicago this weekend.
Find a cure or vaccine!

[scottw]

"The president of Chicago's Fraternal Order of Police has drafted a letter to President Trump requesting federal help in combating the city's gun violence problem.

In the letter posted to Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7's Facebook page Saturday evening, FOP President John Catanzara said "Mayor Lightfoot has proved to be a complete failure who is either unwilling or unable to maintain law and order here."

"I would be willing to sit down anytime and discuss ideas about how we can bring civility back to the streets of Chicago," Catanzara went on to say. "These politicians are failing the good men and women of this city and the police department."


and so....

CHICAGO (CBS Chicago/CBS News) — A group of elected officials on the city, county, and state level on Sunday issued a statement condemning Chicago Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara Jr.’s letter to President Donald Trump asking for federal assistance in dealing with “chaos” in Chicago.

[Got Stripers]

Fun fact. The guy on the right is now in charge of all our COVID-19 data. He’s Michael Caputo, Trump’s HHS director. His former gigs include being a political pundit and wait for it... publicity director for Vladimir Putin in charge of improving the dictator’s image around the world. He also has no experience in health or medicine or medical data or pandemic response. Send all the data to him and not the CDC, what could possibly go wrong.

If local authorities think it’s bad know, what until the second wave which we haven’t seen yet gets rolling.

[Sea Dangles]

Thank You,Rat.Perhaps he can help the libs clean up Chicago

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Thank You,Rat.Perhaps he can help the libs clean up Chicago

If kept man moved next door, most would likely turn those guns on themselves.

[Sea Dangles]

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[wdmso]

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic

"Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care.'

Is it my imagination that conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities like Chicago? Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? AM I imagining it that democrats oppose these ideas? Am I imagining it that democrats have an obvious vested interest in making sure that huge numbers of impoverished people continue to live in cities, since 95% of them vote democrat? That's all in my head? Interesting.

Please answer this specifically...is it only in my imagination that at the last SOTU, republicans were wildly celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever, while democrats were miserable about that fact? What's your response to that, exactly? Is that what happened? And if so, why? Why didn't the democrats see low black unemployment as a cause for celebration?

[Sea Dangles]

See Portland
🤡
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[wdmso]

Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..

waterboarding would be great

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..

Only Trump supporters think there is a problem in Portland and Chicago I am guessing...

I suppose we should ignore it and see if it goes away.😎
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Only Trump supporters think there is a problem in Portland and Chicago I am guessing...

I suppose we should ignore it and see if it goes away.😎
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Chicago has a gang problem, Portland's biggest problem is Trump's secret police.

[Sea Dangles]

So you admit there is a problem in Chicago? Did you switch party😆

Portland...Take away the alleged secret police and you have a peaceful coexisting community?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So you admit there is a problem in Chicago? Did you switch party😆

Portland...Take away the alleged secret police and you have a peaceful coexisting community?
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I'm not aware of anyone denying Chicago has a gang problem.

Here's Portland. It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not aware of anyone denying Chicago has a gang problem.

Here's Portland. It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

So many “Karen’s” not making sammiches
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

So many “Karen’s” not making sammiches
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Antifa human shields. The absolute carnage is quickly spiraling out of control. I hear the hipster brigades are going to target the Chipotle on 44th for excess onion in the guacamole.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I hear the hipster brigades are going to target the Chipotle on 44th for excess onion in the guacamole.
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They are amassing at the Internet cafes ready to rain 1 star Yelp reviews down upon them as they sip on their soy lattes. God have mercy on our souls if they run out of Almond Milk.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Here's Portland.

It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

Christina Kempster (KGW)
Published July 19, 2020
Updated July 20, 2020

Community leaders call for moratorium on violence, ask for conversation with protesters

“If you want to make change, if you are serious about change, then I’m begging you as a citizen of this city ... put down your need for violence.”


PORTLAND, Ore — After more than seven weeks of protesting and escalating tension between demonstrators and law enforcement, the Portland Police Association, along with representatives from the community, called for an end to destruction and called on protesters to meet with them to work toward a solution.

“If you care about Black lives, if you care about the community, if you care about your officers, if you care about your city, the only thing you need to do is make this stop,” Portland police union president Daryl Turner said.

Turner called out elected officials for condoning violence and chaos in Portland and not acting.

“This is no longer about George Floyd. This is no longer about racial equity or social justice. This is no longer about reform or the evolution of policing,” Turner said. “This is about violence, rioting, destruction, chaos, anarchy, buildings on fire, dumpsters on fire, broken glass and damaged businesses in Old Town, the Pearl, Northeast and North Portland.”

Faith leaders, business owners and community members joined Turner at the press conference.

The pastor of Vancouver Avenue First Baptist Church, J.W. Matt Hennessee, called for a “moratorium on the streets” and issued an invitation to those setting fires, causing destruction and looting to meet with him and others to talk, be heard and look for solutions.

“If you want to make change, if you are serious about change, then I’m begging you as a citizen of this city ... put down your need for violence,” Hennessee said.

Turner, Hennessee and others spoke outside the union headquarters on North Lombard where a riot was declared Saturday night and the building was set on fire.

The demonstration was one of two gatherings Saturday night involving hundreds of people calling for police reform and an end to systemic racism. The other was outside the Multnomah County Justice Center in downtown Portland. The area has been the site of many clashes between protesters and law enforcement over the past seven weeks.



"every city, every town, burn the precincts to the ground"


nice people...

[Sea Dangles]

Thank you for posting a pic of a BLM protest Jeff.
People see what they wish to see obviously ��
I guess in Snowflakeville everything was fine and dandy in Portland until forceful intervention occurred. Who would have imagined that it would escalate so quickly with the peaceful demonstrations? Yet they don’t seem bothered in the least in your provided example.

[Sea Dangles]

I like a good sangwich
Oh the humanity

[Sea Dangles]

It’s just his alternative reality
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[spence]

What part is wrong?

[Sea Dangles]

When you refuse to follow orders then it is hickory shampoo time.

[Pete F.]

Chad Wolf has never been confirmed by the Senate to be DHS Sec’y. He’s been the acting sec’y longer than the Vacancies Act permits. This is one of the ways Trump destroys democratic institutions, putting people in key roles whose loyalty is to him, not the Constitution.
Acts authorized by someone in an office in violation of the Vacancies Act are void ab initio. That can be enforced by a lawsuit brought by a private party.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So then you are claiming they are just the Graffiti Gestapo.

No. I claimed they were federal agents protecting federal property--in response to your inaccurate portrayal "Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

“A standing military force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” James Madison told the Constitutional Convention. “The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”

Trump was not instituting a national police force. The various federal agents being used were instituted before Trump. And invoking the standing military force quote by Madison was stretching it too far beyond its meaning to apply here.

I don't know what Madison would have thought of having an FBI or a DHS or an ICE. Then there is the Insurrection Act.

But those are different discussions.

The jackbooted thugs that the right has claimed for years will take away your rights with no due process or recourse have arrived and they are the President's men.
They have snatched people off the streets of the city, refused to identify themselves, and detained people without charges.
The local elected politicians have asked them to leave, all of the sudden you claim that the man who is not responsible for the safety of American citizens in the case of a virus is responsible for the prevention of property crimes throughout the States.

Chad Wolf, who has not been confirmed by the Senate to serve in the job he has held since he replaced another Acting Secretary of Homeland Security last November, went to Portland last week to personally oversee the operation. He claims that the officers are targeting “violent anarchists” who he blames for spray-painting graffiti on some federal buildings (while stretching the definition of “violent” beyond all logic).

Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.

I don't know what crime he committed. The video doesn't show what he did or didn't do nor what he was saying. It could well be that he did nothing wrong and was unjustly beaten.

But this mantra about peaceful protesting being the object of police brutality or federal law enforcement doesn't square with a lot of what actually has been going on. There are, undeniably, riots and violence going on and have been going on for nearly two months. And there is no evidence that it will stop merely by letting it go unimpeded.

You're portrayal is quite different than what is reported by law enforcement. Overall, throughout the country, a lot of police officers, and federal agents have been injured, many severly, several killed. A great deal of property has been destroyed. Citizens have been injured or killed.

Saying it's merely about graffiti is absurd. Emphasizing the supposed peaceful nature is getting old. And saying its about the death of Floyd, or police brutality wears thin when we hear the words of the leaders, when they can be identified. There is something far more radical fueling this prolonged and destructive behavior.