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Old 04-11-2016, 10:52 AM   #91
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I keep saying this....she was SecState....every piece of communication she received should be treated, at the very least, as unclassified but sensitive. Even a lunch date with someone shows the movement of the 5th highest official in the United States. Total disregard on her part for securing her communications

So she's either to big of a liar to be president or to stupid to be president.....it's one or the other.
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:59 AM   #92
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http://www.investors.com/politics/ca...e-did-legally/

And then there is this.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:08 AM   #93
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov
She didn't want the blackBerry. Remember she want to carry too many devices ? Lmao she's an idiot
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:17 AM   #94
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http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/04/famous...hillary-probe/
I don't remember if this was brought up here but it seems as though it should be.
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"I used to read her emails for hours and then garden".

I'd be reading the emails and day trading.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:15 PM   #96
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And I suppose we can expect more of this since both Hillary and Bernie Sanders want amnesty for illegal aliens.

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Old 04-11-2016, 12:37 PM   #97
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And then there is this.
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It's just shocking that the State Department would help large US businesses navigate trade issues with foreign governments isn't it?
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:46 PM   #98
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It's just shocking that the State Department would help large US businesses navigate trade issues with foreign governments isn't it?
As the article points out, that is called crony capitalism. Something Hillary is so much against, and which she promises to clean up. And what's even more smelly is the money Corning donated to Hilary and to her foundation. Not illegal. But . . . remember, Spence . . . the smell test. Your beloved smell test. Do you detect a stink there, Spence?
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:00 PM   #99
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As the article points out, that is called crony capitalism. Something Hillary is so much against, and which she promises to clean up. And what's even more smelly is the money Corning donated to Hilary and to her foundation. Not illegal. But . . . remember, Spence . . . the smell test. Your beloved smell test. Do you detect a stink there, Spence?
Not based on that information alone. It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job. If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.

If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy or workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere...

It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play. Often the business interest who's working the hardest to educate the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.

I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning.
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Not based on that information alone. It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job. If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.

If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy or workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere...

It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play. Often the business interest who's working the hardest to educate the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.

I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:06 PM   #101
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov
So her convenience comes before security....

Again.....too big of a liar or too stupid????
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:07 PM   #102
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She didn't want the blackBerry. Remember she want to carry too many devices ? Lmao she's an idiot
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That's one check mark in the "Too Stupid" column
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I'm sure she has multiple devices in the back of her sock drawer
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Not based on that information alone.

Aha . . . the Clintonesque parsing of words . . .

It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job.

Oh, really? It's a Senator's job to develop relationships with individual businesses in their State? Did she touch base with all the mom and pop stores in NY? Or all the other businesses? Did she develop better "relationships" with businesses which didn't contribute money to her?

If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.

It's crony CAPITALISM. It's about capital, about money. Giving money for influence and favors and advantage over competitors. Getting money to pay for acquisition of power. Returning favors, influence, and privilege in order to maintain power. You know . . . the everyday politics which drives our oligarchic system of "relationships" between BIG business and BIG government. That's the type of "dynamic" that voters, with at least a marginal awareness of how we are ruled, are angry about. And Hillary is good at preaching what she will do for the little guy while she gets her back scratched by the big guys.

If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy Corning which was a big contributor to HIllary's political campaigns and her foundation or its workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere... No, not the"same" kind of cronyism, just one of the different kinds.

It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play.

And it's wrong to assume that there isn't.

Often the business interest who's working the hardest by paying the most to educate the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.

Yup, gaining influence. That's one of the purposes of crony capitalism.

I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning.
I'd note that our political oligarchs need to "help" more than one "big" business. The more they "help," the more they can entrench their power.
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I'm sure she has multiple devices in the back of her sock drawer
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I wonder if she keeps them in a cigar box
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:16 PM   #107
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So her convenience comes before security....
I'm sure she had people telling her it was ok. She's not an expert and wouldn't have moved forward without at least legal council doing a review. Again, this was before they changed the policy...

Seems like this is one that slipped through the cracks. Doesn't appear to be mal intent, nobody was hurt that we know of, what's the problem again?
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The problem is your candidate is a poor decision maker. This is really not up for debate, it just happens to be highlighted due to the fact she is running for president. Other than that Mrs Lincoln,did you enjoy the play?
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The problem is your candidate is a poor decision maker. This is really not up for debate, it just happens to be highlighted due to the fact she is running for president. Other than that Mrs Lincoln,did you enjoy the play?
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Considering her lengthy and impressive resume, to call out an issue over email hosting as a definitive measure is pretty insignificant and trite.
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Jeff, you are on the Hillary bandwagon regardless of the shortcomings. You have zero credibility when it comes to evaluating her accomplishments. Picture Slip as a line judge for a Pats game and you may understand my point more clearly. I am guessing Hillary could eat your young and you would grant her a pardon.
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I'm sure she had people telling her it was ok. She's not an expert and wouldn't have moved forward without at least legal council doing a review. Again, this was before they changed the policy...

Seems like this is one that slipped through the cracks. Doesn't appear to be mal intent, nobody was hurt that we know of, what's the problem again?
....and there's another check mark in the "Too Stupid" column.
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....and there's another check mark in the "Too Stupid" column.
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With that criteria you'd invalidate anyone from running for POTUS.
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I'd make a Great line judge, I would eject Rex Ryan in the first quarter for sure

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With this years crop of candidates.....absolutely
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov
No. The secure emails on the state secure system were far more secure than on sec.state.bathroom

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If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.
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In 2013 when this was written, only a handful of folks knew about her server (well, plus the Russians, Chinese, Israelis, NORKS, Germans, Iran, and other competent intelligence services)



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You have zero credibility when it comes to evaluating her accomplishments.
Please expand.
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No. The secure emails on the state secure system were far more secure than on sec.state.bathroom
We know that state.gov was hacked. No evidence her private server was to date...
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We know that state.gov was hacked. No evidence her private server was to date...
Pretty hard to determine if a system was hacked when there is nothing in place to monitor for it.

Part of the safeguards in place on the government systems is the actual ability to determine that something has happened.

Little things like IDS, Baselining, and log collection and review are a couple that were lacking in her case.
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Please expand.
For starters, you don't think she lied about coming under sniper fire. Let's say you are a wee bit hesitant to be critical of those you adore.
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You are Hillarys lackey Jeff. Apologist,need I go on. I honestly think you would hand wash her underpants. You can not evaluate her with clarity and you have proven that countless times.
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