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[Nebe]

What you fail to realize is Hillary is not going to be the Democratic Party candidate.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

What you fail to realize is Hillary is not going to be the Democratic Party candidate.
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nice....correct again...you're on a roll buddy....she can blame the vast right wing conspiracy for this one

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

What you fail to realize is Hillary is not going to be the Democratic Party candidate.
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Do you have any polls outside of Iowa or NH, that show Bernie anywhere near her?

I would love nothing more than to see Bernie as the candidate. I see no indication that it's mathematically possible.

Iowa and New Hampshire have a long history of going for fringe candidates (both parties) who quickly flame out.

And if NH goes for Bernie,m they need a new motto for their license plates, because "live free or die" doesn't describe a state that voted twice for Weird Harold and then went for a socialist.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Do you have any polls outside of Iowa or NH, that show Bernie anywhere near her?

I would love nothing more than to see Bernie as the candidate. I see no indication that it's mathematically possible.

Iowa and New Hampshire have a long history of going for fringe candidates (both parties) who quickly flame out.

And if NH goes for Bernie,m they need a new motto for their license plates, because "live free or die" doesn't describe a state that voted twice for Weird Harold and then went for a socialist.

If there's one thing I have learned on my short time on this planet is that there are 2 types of people. People who think in black and white and people who think in grey. Black and white rely on solid facts and never deviate. People who think in the grey use facts and also connect the dots.

Time will tell, but my grey thinking has Sanders winning. In fact I felt this before he even announced his presidency. Show me another candidate that is not a corporate shill or a pathological liar.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

If there's one thing I have learned on my short time on this planet is that there are 2 types of people. People who think in black and white and people who think in grey. Black and white rely on solid facts and never deviate. People who think in the grey use facts and also connect the dots.

Time will tell, but my grey thinking has Sanders winning. In fact I felt this before he even announced his presidency. Show me another candidate that is not a corporate shill or a pathological liar.
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Bernie is no corporate shill. I agree it's not good if a candidate has been bought by big business. Where you and I disagree, is that I don't think it's necessarily a good thing to be declaring war against business, either. In this country, lots of people derive lots of benefits from big business.

I worked at Travelers, Aetna, and The Hartford. Huge businesses. Tens of thousands of good jobs. On top o fthat, they were good corporate citizens who donated big $$ to local communities, gave employees time off to donate time to charities like Habitat For Humanity, and encouraged charitable giving by matching contributions taht we made to charities. These companies will pay for employees to get additional college degrees. Evil? Hardly.

Are Cruz and Rubio known liars?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Are Cruz and Rubio known liars?

Nope. But are they Corperate shills?? Look at their donors.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Nope. But are they Corperate shills?? Look at their donors.
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isn't Ben & Jerry's Bernie's corporate sponsor?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

isn't Ben & Jerry's Bernie's corporate sponsor?

His top sponsors are all labor unions. I guess no one ever got in trouble because politicians were beholden to labor unions...public union pensions and healthcare benefits, rewarded to unions by the same democrats the unions got elected, are not putting any strain on cities and states, nope...

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

isn't Ben & Jerry's Bernie's corporate sponsor?

Ok. He has what... One? Do you think Bernie is going to be beholden to an ice cream company?
Last I heard there was no issue with an ice cream company being too big to fail, being a huge polluter of the environment, a threat to people's retirement funds, able to profit from a foreign war, etc...

It might make you fat.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Time will tell, but my grey thinking has Sanders winning. In fact I felt this before he even announced his presidency. Show me another candidate that is not a corporate shill or a pathological liar.
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feel the Bern baby!!!

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe;1091189

Time will tell, but my grey thinking has Sanders winning. In fact I felt this before he even announced his presidency. Show me another candidate that is not a corporate shill or a pathological liar.
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Donald Trump ... And he's got FU money . I'm thinking he isn't going to be bought
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