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11-12-2017, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
On its face, this is one of the most absurd statements I have ever, ever, read.
But, like some of the cryptic things Trump says, maybe there is some rationale, even truth, in what you say. Can you please explain what you mean here, because your statement, as it is, makes no sense. It is totally divorced from sense. It verges, if it doesn't actually get there, on lunacy.
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He means that it is like the Bible.
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11-12-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
the constitution is successful because people can't agree on what it means... which promotes dialogue
Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
On its face, this is one of the most absurd statements I have ever, ever, read.
"A"....for originality...and comedy
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11-12-2017, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
He means that it is like the Bible.
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Chris FTW.
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11-12-2017, 04:27 PM
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I find it hard to believe that there has not been a single mention of the National Firearms Act of 1934. The original intent of the NFA was to outlaw the machine guns (full automatic weapons) that had been outgunning the lawmen throughout Prohibition era. It was an act of Congress, has some flaws, has been successfully challenged on some fronts, and is where this discussion must be held in this nation. Not the Second Amendment.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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11-12-2017, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
I find it hard to believe that there has not been a single mention of the National Firearms Act of 1934. The original intent of the NFA was to outlaw the machine guns (full automatic weapons) that had been outgunning the lawmen throughout Prohibition era. It was an act of Congress, has some flaws, has been successfully challenged on some fronts, and is where this discussion must be held in this nation. Not the Second Amendment.
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wasn't the "original intent" of the NFA to tax all firearms and create a national gun registry? |
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11-13-2017, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
wasn't the "original intent" of the NFA to tax all firearms and create a national gun registry?
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Yes and no. As with many bills being penned for congressional approval, other interests get represented in the drafting and negotiating process. It was at one point going to encompass all rifles, shotguns AND pistols and revolvers. Pistols and revolvers were dropped, and long guns were only included if under a minimum 16 inch barrel length. (obvious attempt to outlaw sawed off weapons) Silencers were included, and taxed, more so because it was a newer technology. Tax stamp on autos/machine guns was set at $200.00. (approx. $3500 in 2017 dollars) The registry was poorly written and continues to be less than effective, when looked at from a recording point of view, not a regulatory one. (The salt water fishing license is light years ahead of the gun registry.....) |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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11-13-2017, 07:50 AM
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And, the stamp for a single NFA weapon is still $200.00..... Getting the Form 4 processed is more of a challenge IMO. I believe there could be untold numbers of home built short barreled rifles out there. Like the bump stock, there are many work arounds......
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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11-13-2017, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Yes and no.
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the answer is "YES"....the original intent of the NFA was to tax, regulate and create a National Registry for all firearms...not to "outlaw machine guns" |
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