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Old 03-08-2022, 11:40 AM   #601
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Logical?




Yep.

Best we just keep doing what we are doing, filtered ISR, providing weapons support. Extra support NATO countries bordering Ukraine.
i wonder how much of a provocation it is, if we send aircraft to
ukraine via poland.
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Old 03-08-2022, 12:21 PM   #602
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I just read an article that said that a Russian spokesman said that they would stop shelling and cease operations if Ukraine recognized crimea and the other 2 break away regions as independent states and if Ukraine re wrote their constitution to create a neutral country. Seems logical to me and I hope this #^&#^&#^&#^& ends soon.


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Respectfully, what is logical? Are you kidding me? He (Putin) should get zero conditions.... from UKR or the world at large. He will be getting the conditions, eventually, unless he gets taken out first.

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Old 03-08-2022, 02:07 PM   #603
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i wonder how much of a provocation it is, if we send aircraft to
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Very provacative. If UKR pilots picked up Mig 29s from Poland, flew them unarmed to a base / highway strip in UA and then loaded up and flew missions from UA territory - much safer than flying FROM Poland.



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Respectfully, what is logical? Are you kidding me? He (Putin) should get zero conditions.... from UKR or the world at large. He will be getting the conditions, eventually, unless he gets taken out first.



Hoping for the latter, to think Ukraine should roll over for Putin is fvcking nuts - especially now. Don't know what Eben was smoking but I guess he would be OK with Russia taking control of parts of the US - for peace.

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Very provacative. If UKR pilots picked up Mig 29s from Poland, flew them unarmed to a base / highway strip in UA and then loaded up and flew missions from UA territory - much safer than flying FROM Poland.
Agreed, that is a smart plan.

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Don't know what Eben was smoking but I guess he would be OK with Russia taking control of parts of the US - for peace.
Only Jim's house and maybe Scott's.
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Respectfully, what is logical? Are you kidding me? He (Putin) should get zero conditions.... from UKR or the world at large. He will be getting the conditions, eventually, unless he gets taken out first.
I said logical because those regions want to separate from Ukraine anyway. Let them !!! Not only would this solve the current conflict but also the fighting that has been happening for years.
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Old 03-08-2022, 07:03 PM   #606
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I was very disappointed when I read an article earlier today that was discussing a poll that only like 70% of Americans would stay and fight if we were invaded.
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I was very disappointed when I read an article earlier today that was discussing a poll that only like 70% of Americans would stay and fight if we were invaded.
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I was very disappointed when I read an article earlier today that was discussing a poll that only like 70% of Americans would stay and fight if we were invaded.
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it would be pretty funny if suddenly Americans were flooding across the border into Mexico....

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Old 03-09-2022, 05:32 AM   #609
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poll that only like 70% of Americans would stay and fight if we were invaded.

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I wonder who thinks their country isn't worth defending and why?
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That other 30% are probably gender fluid, live in their parent's basements, and spent four years furiously typing "Not my President" on their $800 iPhone.
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That other 30% are probably gender fluid, live in their parent's basements, and spent four years furiously typing "Not my President" on their $800 iPhone and decrying capitalism.
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fixed it ...

and I wonder how many would "actually" stay and fight....I suspect the "I might not agree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" frauds would turn tail pretty quickly
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That other 30% are probably gender fluid, live in their parent's basements, and spent four years furiously typing "Not my President" on their $800 iPhone.
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i think about this a lot in terms of the greatest generation. huge numbers fought for the US, in greater numbers than any generation subsequent to them ever could.

Fascinating to me, is that they all grew up in the Great Depression, you’d think they’d be the ones who felt like they didn’t owe their country anything. But despite living in miserable hopeless poverty, they were fiercely patriotic.

Maybe they NEEDED the experience of growing up in the depression, to prepare them for the horrors that awaited them. As we have seen for sure, prosperity can lead to softness. Fascinating stuff.
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What’s even funnier people praising those who say they would fight and making fun of The Who say they won’t
these brave New Patriots will to fight if in the remote chance the US is invaded

Never served in any branch of service lol. FYI Only 10% of Americans have ever served ..
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What’s even funnier people praising those who say they would fight and making fun of The Who say they won’t
these brave New Patriots will to fight if in the remote chance the US is invaded

Never served in any branch of service lol. FYI Only 10% of Americans have ever served ..
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is there a point here?
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I said logical because those regions want to separate from Ukraine anyway. Let them !!! Not only would this solve the current conflict but also the fighting that has been happening for years.
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Much less of those people in those provinces after RU pulled 2014. Even less now. A lot of Russian speaking Ukrainians are fighting against Russia.


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My boss would be of the 30%, he would not fight to save his family.

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Wanted: multilingual former soldiers willing to covertly head into Ukraine for the handsome sum of up to $2,000 (£1,523) per day - plus bonus - to help rescue families from an increasingly grim conflict.

I think they mean Rescuing rich Ukraine Families
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is there a point here?
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I’m already seeing “WOLVERINES!” Tee shirts in my Facebook feed.
I am seeing them also
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virtue signaling is a national past time....
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My boss would be of the 30%, he would not fight to save his family.
Unfort. In actual combat I might make a decent human shield.
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Russian claims of biowarfare labs in Ukraine

And Tucker Carlson is promoting Russian lies on his show shocking

And using China talking points

And using Tulsi gabbard to suggest it’s just like covid funding labs for secret experiments..

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Yet another sighting of Tucker Carlson on Russia's state TV. This time, he was arguing against banning Russian oil. TuckyoRose is sticking up for Putin's interests and state TV propagandists are eating it up.

Great job by the “CONservatives”
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Old 03-10-2022, 07:27 AM   #623
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Russia might not be able to occupy, but if they keep capturing and shutting down nuclear power stations, they will turn a lot of Ukraine into a nuclear wasteland.
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Reports this morning that they bombed a Children's Hospital, crazy.
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If this war criminal didn’t have nuclear weapons, this war probably never would happen or if it started, nato could have stepped in to stop it in its tracks. I hope Putin and his generals eventually pay the price for these war crimes.
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If this war criminal didn’t have nuclear weapons, this war probably never would happen or if it started, nato could have stepped in to stop it in its tracks. I hope Putin and his generals eventually pay the price for these war crimes.
exactly correct. having them, and being perceived as someone who wouldnt lose a moments sleep
over using them. Biden is in an almost impossible situation for any president.
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Biden is in an almost impossible situation for any president.

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other presidents have dealt with hostile powers with nuclear weapons...
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Remember all of the people who admired Putin because he said he believed in 'traditional family values'?
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actually no, but I remember a guy who said putin is afraid of biden?
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actually no, but I remember a guy who said putin is afraid of biden?
I remember a guy who thought that Russia is entitled to part of Ukraine
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