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05-04-2016, 12:15 PM
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Sanders fanboy should at least get some basic facts right about the issue. |
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05-04-2016, 12:20 PM
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Maybe they can do a spin off series from Orange is the New Black.....
Just think about it, we may have a president that never goes on vacation...or on diplomatic missions for that matter.
She won't be able to go out of range of her Ankle Tether
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05-04-2016, 12:22 PM
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Jeff, do you think Hillary switched to a thong after the (alleged) Lewinsky tryst? It will be easier for you to wash ( floss with).
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05-04-2016, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Jeff, do you think Hillary switched to a thong after the (alleged) Lewinsky tryst? It will be easier for you to wash ( floss with).
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You're fixated, at least we know what's on your mind... |
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05-04-2016, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You're fixated, at least we know what's on your mind...
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You love it
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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05-04-2016, 05:57 PM
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If you like ...
Expensive shoddy healthcare , a leader who has no respect for the military and will keep the rules of engagement that keep our military at a disadvantage , hate gun ownership , have no issues with politicians that extort money for favors then vote for The Clintons !!
I'll take my chances with Trump
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05-04-2016, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
If you like ...
Expensive shoddy healthcare ,
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She was trying to address this 20 years ago but was blocked by the GOP. Can't blame her...
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a leader who has no respect for the military and will keep the rules of engagement that keep our military at a disadvantage
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Why do you say this? Her record as Senator on vets issues and defense spending is pretty solid. Can you cite a single policy reference that alludes to her position on ROE's?
Hate? Here are her three top priorities from her website...
1) Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.
2) Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.
3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.
Do you disagree with any of these?
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have no issues with politicians that extort money for favors then vote for The Clintons !!
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Any evidence of any of this? |
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05-04-2016, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists
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some profound brilliance right there |
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05-04-2016, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
some profound brilliance right there
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Considering your post perhaps she's just stating the obvious, but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either. |
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05-04-2016, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.
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Do you have any evidence of this? |
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05-05-2016, 05:01 AM
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[QUOTE=spence;1099937but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.[/QUOTE]
That reminds me, if you love illegal immigration or immigration from radicalized area of the world. Vote for the Clintons
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05-05-2016, 04:58 AM
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[QUOTE=spence;1099928]She was trying to address this 20 years ago but was blocked by the GOP. Can't blame her...
Of course not , and 7+ years Into the Obama administration and he has no personal responsibility either. She will continue and expand the failed policies of this administration.
Why do you say this? Her record as Senator on vets issues and defense spending is pretty solid. Can you cite a single policy reference that alludes to her position on ROE's?
She had no problem openly lying in the face parents receiving Their sons remains at an airport. What percentage of the military do you think agrees with me on this?
Hate? Here are her three top priorities from her website...
1) Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.
2) Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.
The dealers are not breaking any laws . I know how important that is to you ,to walk the fine line , but they don't even do that .
Why would manufactures be responsible? I see a big donation from the lawyers . What a crock of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&
3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.
This is campaign bull#^&#^&#^&#^& . What are hero state and the obvious .
Do you disagree with any of these?
Any evidence of any of this?
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05-05-2016, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Sure, Syed Rizwan Farook.
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You misread my question. Read it again, in the proper context. Amazing that someone who is as contextually attuned to and driven by CONTEXT would miss the context in which I asked my question:
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Originally Posted by spence View Post
but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.
Detbuch reply: Do you have any evidence of this?
The context was your "want." Do you have any evidence that you wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendment rights?
I was yanking your chain regarding your usual "do you have any evidence of this" type of rebuttal of someone's opinion of a politician formed and based on obviously circumstantial occurrences of past speeches, position papers, legislation, and repetitive talking points.
Can you provide any "evidence," circumstantial or positive, that you wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendment right to bear arms?
Silly question? It was meant to be as silly as your non sequiturs or often straw man statements, and then insisting on "evidence" for someone else's opinions.
On the other hand, you were attempting what you think is clarity when you said: "I don't think that's really even that important part of the issue though...the question is the threshold for the feds to deny rights under current law without sufficient evidence there's a clear threat to public safety."
To begin with, what you think is clearly the question is muddled again by your situational ethics. When it suited you, you backed up Nebe's assertion that your chances of being killed by a terror attack were very rare. But it suits you in this thread to posit that there's a clear threat to public safety if the feds threshold to deny rights is not raised (made sufficient) in order, among other things, to " Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists."
But what is clear to me, not only in this assertion by you, but in consistently similar statements by you in many other posts, is that the federal government simply doesn't have enough authority over the individuals in this country. Any occurrence which you conveniently deemed rare in another instance, now conveniently becomes a threat to public safety and should be cause to give the federal government the power to deny rights. So any contrived crisis must not be wasted if it can be used to expand the federal government's scope of power.
The federal government actually does have within its original constitutional scope of power the ability to severely limit the immigration of any category of groups into this country. But applying that power in order to mitigate the "threat to public safety" is not acceptable to you, or other Progressives who ply such bromides as "that is not us." It clearly has been us over most of our history, but Progressives, among the arsenal of anti-American and Constitution busting tactics, have in the importation of massive numbers of immigrants who provide no special qualities or abilities to strengthen what were actually once considered American values, found another way of actually watering down those values while at the same time creating a large populace of allies who will add to and strengthen the Progressive trajectory of central government's intrusion into every aspect of our lives.
I do not have actual "evidence" that you really do wish to limit our once unalienable rights and making those rights government rights rather than individual rights. But it just seems, clearly, that you do. |
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05-06-2016, 11:41 AM
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05-06-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
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Interesting . . . no evidence that she intentionally or willingly broke the law. Does that mean she did, but she just didn't know that she did?
Wikipedia:
Ignorantia juris non excusat or ignorantia legis neminem excusat is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because he or she was unaware of its content.
But in Hillary's case, ignorance is merely bliss. Is being unaware that one is breaking a law a positive qualification for the reputedly highest office in the land? Is the lack of proper procedure which leads to the unintentional breaking of a federal law a qualification for the chief law enforcer of the land? |
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05-06-2016, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Interesting . . . no evidence that she intentionally or willingly broke the law. Does that mean she did, but she just didn't know that she did?
Wikipedia:
Ignorantia juris non excusat or ignorantia legis neminem excusat is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because he or she was unaware of its content.
But in Hillary's case, ignorance is merely bliss. Is being unaware that one is breaking a law a positive qualification for the reputedly highest office in the land? Is the lack of proper procedure which leads to the unintentional breaking of a federal law a qualification for the chief law enforcer of the land?
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You're presuming a law was broken, this is still just speculation. I read a legal paper some months ago though that was very specific that intent is everything in this cases. If not they'd have to indict most of the CIA and DoD. |
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05-06-2016, 08:05 PM
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Romanian Hacker 'Guccifer' Just Gave Bernie Sanders the Democratic Nomination http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9856196
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05-06-2016, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
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Yet the FBI found no evidence, he can't provide any evidence and he's regarded as 3rd rate hack...
He's just making crap up because he's in jail.
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05-06-2016, 08:30 PM
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time to go
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Originally Posted by spence
Yet the FBI found no evidence, he can't provide any evidence and he's regarded as 3rd rate hack...
He's just making crap up because he's in jail.
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I haven't heard the FBI say anything yet.
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05-06-2016, 08:39 PM
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spence, plus a fellon can not legally possess a firearm in mass, but yet they can have a musket....  ...no sense at all.... |
"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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05-09-2016, 06:37 PM
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time to go
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05-09-2016, 08:03 PM
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Old news. |
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05-10-2016, 09:33 AM
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Old news.
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Oldies but goodies. |
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05-09-2016, 09:27 PM
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No it's not old news unless you call tonight's news old.
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05-10-2016, 08:48 AM
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No it's not old news unless you call tonight's news old.
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This was reported in December by Politico. |
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05-14-2016, 04:46 PM
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That email cited in the story came from the known hack of Sidney Bluemthal's server...not Clinton's. It was his email sent to her.
You're reading made up news. |
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05-14-2016, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
That email cited in the story came from the known hack of Sidney Bluemthal's server...not Clinton's. It was his email sent to her.
You're reading made up news.
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Oh that makes it better
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05-14-2016, 06:29 PM
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Oh that makes it better
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It makes it irrelevant. |
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