FLorida Congressman likens Tea Party to the Klan...

[Jim in CT]

This is an elected official, a member of the House Of Represenatatives...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...burning-cross/

[buckman]

I'm not the least bit surprised
Jim .
The hate spewing out of the left amazes me. The secretary of health just said yesterday that she doesn't work for the people that oppose Obamacare. I don't hate any of them but I am getting angry with all of them!
They have made those with opposing viewpoints the enemy!
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'm not the least bit surprised
Jim .
The hate spewing out of the left amazes me.They have made those with opposing viewpoints the enemy!
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That is funny, bc the hate on the right amazes me. Look at Jim for example. He is constantly starting posts showing how much hate he has for anyone with a view different than his. This summer I saw people on highway overpasses spewing the most hatefull things about our president. You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence. What % of the right and of the TP where birthers?

I just saw someone call people idiots - how much hate is in that person?

I've never seen such hate.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is funny, bc the hate on the right amazes me. Look at Jim for example. He is constantly starting posts showing how much hate he has for anyone with a view different than his. This summer I saw people on highway overpasses spewing the most hatefull things about our president. You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence. What % of the right and of the TP where birthers?

I just saw someone call people idiots - how much hate is in that person?

I've never seen such hate.

The only reason you bring up the Muslim thing is that the media likes to portray the right is extremists.
It's been drilled into your head.
I believe the right is a much more tolerant group then the far left.
Truth be told Paul, you would be calling for the right to criticize this guy if he had an R next to his name .
The lefts method of demonizing it's opponent is disgraceful.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

The only reason you bring up the Muslim thing is that the media likes to portray the right is extremists.
It's been drilled into your head.
I believe the right is a much more tolerant group then the far left.
Truth be told Paul, you would be calling for the right to criticize this guy if he had an R next to his name .
The lefts method of demonizing it's opponent is disgraceful.
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So saying a Christian is a Muslim doesn't qualify as an extremist and isn't disgraceful? I never have viewed the right as extremist in the past but over the last 5 years they have been pushed there more and more. There is an "extreme" right and left. I believe the one on the right has gotten much, much larger over those 5 years - .

I've voted for plenty of Rs in my life and if I criticize someone, it certainly would never go to the level of lying about their birth or love of country.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So saying a Christian is a Muslim doesn't qualify as an extremist and isn't disgraceful? I never have viewed the right as extremist in the past but over the last 5 years they have been pushed there more and more. There is an "extreme" right and left. I believe the one on the right has gotten much, much larger over those 5 years - .

I've voted for plenty of Rs in my life and if I criticize someone, it certainly would never go to the level of lying about their birth or love of country.

First of all ,I don't consider being a Muslim a horrible thing either. There are good people and there are bad people of all faiths and nationalities.
I dont think anybody lied about his birth.
I think there are people that questioned where he was born because of the ambiguous way his birth certificates have come to light.
Kind of like his education
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So saying a Christian is a Muslim doesn't qualify as an extremist and isn't disgraceful? .

Anyone who says Obama is a Muslim, is an idiot.

A I have said, I WISH he was a Muslim. Because Islam is a lot easier to understand that whatever religion Obama embraced in the "church" of Reverend Wright for 20 years. There, he embraced the most racist, anti-American, dishonest, deranged, hate-filled bile one can imagine. And this is the man Obama referred to as his "spiritual mentor', until it was politically advantageous for Obama to throw him under the bus. Principles!

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by buckman

The only reason you bring up the Muslim thing is that the media likes to portray the right is extremists.
It's been drilled into your head.
I believe the right is a much more tolerant group then the far left.
Truth be told Paul, you would be calling for the right to criticize this guy if he had an R next to his name .
The lefts method of demonizing it's opponent is disgraceful.
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So true, nicely said
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is funny, bc the hate on the right amazes me. Look at Jim for example. He is constantly starting posts showing how much hate he has for anyone with a view different than his. This summer I saw people on highway overpasses spewing the most hatefull things about our president. You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence. What % of the right and of the TP where birthers?

I just saw someone call people idiots - how much hate is in that person?

I've never seen such hate.

"You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence."

What %? You say it's a huge percentage? Based on what data?

Paul, we certainly have our share of kooks and jerks on our side. The difference is, (1) I call them out as being jerks and kooks, and (2) we aren't as prone as Democrats to sending our kooks and jerks to Congress. We do a better job, I think, of keeping them on the margins, rather than electing them.

"He is constantly starting posts showing how much hate he has for anyone with a view different than his."

I don't hate liberals for whet they believe. I hate their repeated tactic of dodging the issues (which they do because their positions are indefensible) and crying 'racist' at every turn. This is a prime example of that. Instead of saying anything about Alan Grayson, you tried to male this about me. Classic liberal dodge.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence."

What %? You say it's a huge percentage? Based on what data?

From a quick search

http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-p...ama-is-muslim/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshge...as_Muslim.html

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

From a quick search

http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-p...ama-is-muslim/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshge...as_Muslim.html

I find this all humorous, based on how much of an issue liberal Democrats and the media made of Romney being a Mormon .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

From a quick search

http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-p...ama-is-muslim/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshge...as_Muslim.html

Paul, a few things..

(1) I am embarassed that any Republican would think that Obama is a Muslim, given that there is zero evidence of that. And that's a difference between you and I. I call out the kooks on my side, whereas you have not criticized COngreessman Grayson. Maybe you agree with him, that the Tea Party is the equivalent of the Klan. I don't know, because despite all your replies on this post, you haven't commented on the subject that started the thread.

(2) there is no way that 46% of the GOP thinks he is a Muslim. It can't be that high.

(3) if he were a Muslim, that would be preferable to whatever religion he actually is. Islam is way preferable to whatever name you want to give to the hate spewed in Wright's "church" for 20 years. Calling Obama a Muslim is, in my opinion, an insult to Islam. I know lots of Muslims who are a lot less hateful and divisive than Obama is.

Obama called Rev Wright his 'spiritual mentor'. That necessarily means, that Obama is a disciple of lies, hate and racism, not Christianity. No one, and I mean no one, who embraces Rev Wright's bile is a Christian. Let's be honest enough to admit that Obama didn't abandon Rev Wright until it became professionally profitable for him to do so. Obama will claim to embrace whatever he needs to embrace, in order to get the next station in life that he feels he is entitled to.

Obama threw Wright under the bus, and switched to mainstream Christianity, when David Axlerod pointed out his polling numbers during the 2008 campaign. It was a political ploy (or a spectacular coincidence of timing). That doesn't qualify as genuine Christianity in my book.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is funny, bc the hate on the right amazes me. Look at Jim for example. He is constantly starting posts showing how much hate he has for anyone with a view different than his. This summer I saw people on highway overpasses spewing the most hatefull things about our president. You had a huge % of the right believing the Pres. was Muslim and was not an American w/o any evidence. What % of the right and of the TP where birthers?

I just saw someone call people idiots - how much hate is in that person?

I've never seen such hate.

yeah...that's remarkably frequent use of "hate" for one post...seems a little obsessive, you should get that looked at

apparently racism and hate are the favorite words of leftist with not much more to say...and you don't even have to provide any evidence ... Spence is apparently still searching for that one example.. and Paul...."I saw a guy on an overpass spewing hate" ...really???....good grief...your president and his fellow travelers just spent weeks referring to anyone that opposed them as terrorists in every possible way, this has become routine...they set the standard..I suspect more Americans saw that than saw the dude on the overpass....I will provide many examples if you'd like but you know that it's true.....two words with serious meanings have become casual language for the frustrated left it would be great if they held themselves and those that they support to the standards that they have for others who they have obvious disdain(you might even say.... hate...for )due to political differences

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

yeah...that's remarkably frequent use of "hate" for one post...seems a little obsessive, you should get that looked at

Obsessive is following Spence around like a little poodle

[Jim in CT]

Paul S -

"So you think saying the Pres. doesn't love the country, wasn't born here or is a Muslim isn't hate mongering?. "

Paul, there is compelling evidence for a rational person (not merely someone blinded by hate) to suggest that Obama despises the principles this country was founded upon. Obama's wife doesn't like the country (she said she wasn't proud of it until her hubby got the nomination). Obama's political mentor, Bill Ayers, is a domestic terrorist who clearly hates the country. Obama's spiritual mentor, Reverend Wright, is a deranged lunatic who clearly hates the country.

If Obama's (1) wife, (2) political mentor, and (3) spiritual mentor are all radicals, why is it racist or hateful to comclude that Obama is one as well? Heck, why is that even a controversial thing to say? Where am I wrong about Michelle, Bill, or Jeremiah?