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Old 12-06-2015, 08:17 PM   #121
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Those who would allow that and prefer that deserve to suffer the consequences.
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Don't forget about what Ben Franklin said about that.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:20 PM   #122
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'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'

I think of this every time I fly and watch how TSA operates.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:30 PM   #123
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Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:32 PM   #124
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:56 PM   #125
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- State laws that can be circumvented by crossing a line points to a federal solution.

This is exactly the kind of thinking which has to a great degree destroyed our constitutional system of government. And if not checked and reversed, will totally erase it--"fundamentally transform" it, as Obama knows very well and intentionally wishes to do. Crossing a State line, if that is what you mean by a "line," is far from pointing to federal involvement. The Commerce clause was clearly intended to prevent States from imposing tariffs or banning products simply because they come from another State. It was intended to ensure the free flow of commerce between States, not to restrict it or federally regulate it. The intentional misuse (false "interpretation") of the Commerce clause (and most other Clauses) has so bastardized the constitutional structure that it gives the Federal government nearly unlimited power (if it so chooses) over the States. This is no big secret. And if you are somehow not aware of it, you're a progressive useful idiot. I believe you damned well know it and approve of it. You never answered the question "are States necessary?" From the line of thinking you present, I don't believe you really think they are. If anything, you may consider them (especially "red" states) to be an obstacle to supposedly good government.

- Gun control is a long-term strategy. At the least we should be able to study the issue and the NRA won't even allow it.
The issue has been and is being "studied." The NRA cannot legislate against nor stop the study of the issue. It can lobby, as can left wing gun controllers, the Congress. But what you really mean, as usual, is that the FEDERAL government is prevented from studying it. With, in my opinion, good reason. I don't know what the NRA rationale is, but to me it is dangerous to our constitutionally guaranteed rights to have the very institution the Constitution bans from abridging those rights study the "need" or efficacy of imposing control over them. As I've said before, that is a version of letting the fox in the henhouse. States can make their own studies, as can any private organizations, persons, or non-federal organizations. And they do.

The Federal government has specific enumerated powers to which it must attend. Those powers alone are enough to keep it productively busy. When it goes beyond the specified duties, it overburdens itself beyond its capability to justly govern and imposes dictatorial regulations against the will of the people as well as bankrupting the nation and financial future of all but its commercial and political cronies.

And it ultimately usurps the power of the States, ergo diminishes the governments closest to and most directly responsible to its citizens.

Thus it gradually erodes the functions of the States which become mere vassals of the central government. They become increasingly superfluous and an impediment to central power.

A process which I assume you approve of.

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Old 12-06-2015, 10:20 PM   #126
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More laws will actually make criminals follow the laws they don't follow now?? I just can't get my head up my ass to see liberal logic..
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.

1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!

It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:44 AM   #127
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that southern guy with more guns than they could count

bad guys buy guns from this kind of source

not gun stores
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:50 AM   #128
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'Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.'

I think of this every time I fly and watch how TSA operates.
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Liberals love that quote. It's idiotic. In other words, "people who don't want to be blown to bits, deserve to be blown to bits".

You don't get the nature of this enemy, and what they are aspiring to do. You just don't get it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:25 AM   #129
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Liberals love that quote. .
and probably have no idea about it's origin

https://books.google.com/books?id=Hp...ential&f=false
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:48 AM   #130
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and probably have no idea about it's origin

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Which makes one wonder why, if Nebe likes the quote, he wants to vote for a Socialist.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:16 PM   #131
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Which makes one wonder why, if Nebe likes the quote, he wants to vote for a Socialist.
Well the socialist is in favor of legalizing marijuana, oh and free stuff. Free stuff for everyone!!!

Does your incessant whining make you feel better? How about you just shut the hell up and suck it up? It's a fishing forum , so please just stop.
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