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10-17-2018, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Are you the model "American Man"? Americans sacrificed and paid for over 200 years what Progressives/Democrats and Republicans have been destroying for the last 80 years.
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Fixed it for you
Perhaps you’ve forgotten who started the Progessive party
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10-17-2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Fixed it for you
Perhaps you’ve forgotten who started the Progessive party
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Progressives started the Progressive party. Both Republicans and Democrats have been Progressives. I don't even know the party affiliations of the mid to late 19th century Progressive theorists. I have stated a few times on this forum that the first Progressive President was T. Roosevelt, a nominal Republican. Herbert Hoover was also a Progressive. Nixon very often acted as a Progressive. But virtually all Democrat Presidents from Wilson till now have been Progressive. And the Democrat Congresses have been solidly Progressive since FDR. So the Dem Party is more heavily Progressive and has been for some time. It has even gone further left than the original and mid to late 20th century Progressives.
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10-17-2018, 10:49 PM
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Progressives started the Progressive party. Both Republicans and Democrats have been Progressives. I don't even know the party affiliations of the mid to late 19th century Progressive theorists. I have stated a few times on this forum that the first Progressive President was T. Roosevelt, a nominal Republican. Herbert Hoover was also a Progressive. Nixon very often acted as a Progressive. But virtually all Democrat Presidents from Wilson till now have been Progressive. And the Democrat Congresses have been solidly Progressive since FDR. So the Dem Party is more heavily Progressive and has been for some time. It has even gone further left than the original and mid to late 20th century Progressives.
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Perhaps
Try January 11 of this year for when Trump reneged
Of course he never denies that he said something but people who he’s negotiating with should trust him
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10-17-2018, 11:53 PM
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Try January 11 of this year for when Trump reneged
Of course he never denies that he said something but people who he’s negotiating with should trust him
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Are you saying that two weeks before Trump proposed to grant the 1.8 million a path to citizenship, he reneged on the plan? He reneged before he made the proposal? |
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10-18-2018, 08:48 AM
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Are you saying that two weeks before Trump proposed to grant the 1.8 million a path to citizenship, he reneged on the plan? He reneged before he made the proposal?
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I'm saying on the 9th he agreed to something and on the 11th he reneged. |
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10-18-2018, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I'm saying on the 9th he agreed to something and on the 11th he reneged.
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Pardon me. I thought you were addressing my point about the 1.8 million path to citizenship that Trump offered and was rejected. It seems like a sneaky change of subject. |
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10-18-2018, 02:16 PM
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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