You guys are disappointing me

[PaulS]

Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.

It's a non-story.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.

Press assistant. Not head of the CIA. You are really reaching...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Press assistant. Not head of the CIA. You are really reaching...

Just shows what a bunch of crappy people he has hired. His former caddy, Amarosa, lawyers with no experience for judgeships, etc. He told us that he had the A team in his cabinet and now I guess we are down to the B team.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Just shows what a bunch of crappy people he has hired. His former caddy, Amarosa, lawyers with no experience for judgeships, etc. He told us that he had the A team in his cabinet and now I guess we are down to the B team.

How do you know she's not qualified for whatever job she was hired for?

My God, with all the mountains of legitimate criticism this guy deserves, this is what has you worried? The person he hired for a job you never heard of?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

How do you know she's not qualified for whatever job she was hired for?Did I say that in my intial post?

My God, with all the mountains of legitimate criticism this guy deserves, this is what has you worried? The person he hired for a job you never heard of?

And it bothered you enough that you had to respond. Maybe we should discuss whether Pres. Obama was truly disrespecting the office of the President when he wore a brown suit since that go so much press from the right when it happened.

It is just funny how unqualified some of the people he has hired have been. Betsy Devoss looks silly every time she appears before Congress.

[scottw]

are there any leftists that aren't smarter than everyone else?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

are there any leftists that aren't smarter than everyone else?

No, just none dumber than Authoritarians
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...so-differently

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

are there any leftists that aren't smarter than everyone else?

leftists aren't smarter than everyone else but it appears Fox news viewers know less about current events than people who don't watch the news.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#42b2643112ab

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

leftists aren't smarter than everyone else but it appears Fox news viewers know less about current events than people who don't watch the news.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#42b2643112ab

such an odd FOX obsession....

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

such an odd FOX obsession....

The article?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

, lawyers with no experience for judgeships, etc. .

Having judicial experience didn't stop Sonia Sotomayor from saying this, which should prevent her form ever serving on a jury, let along on the Supreme Court...

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,”

You cannot get more bigoted than that, you simply cannot, and she will be on that bench for the rest of my life. White men, by virtue of their skin pigmentation and genitals, make inferior judges. That's super.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Having judicial experience didn't stop Sonia Sotomayor from saying this, which should prevent her form ever serving on a jury, let along on the Supreme Court...

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,”

You cannot get more bigoted than that, you simply cannot, and she will be on that bench for the rest of my life. White men, by virtue of their skin pigmentation and genitals, make inferior judges. That's super.

It wasn't bigoted at all in context. Just a little clumsy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It wasn't bigoted at all in context. Just a little clumsy.

You love saying that criticism of the left are taken out of context, yet I have never seen you once, put it in the correct context. Could you tell us what the correct context is, please?

She also authored 5 majority opinions that were reviewed by the Supreme Court (when she was in the lower court), 3 were overturned. She was found to have been wrong, 60% of the time. Now from what I understand, the SCOTUS overturns a high % of cases, because there is usually a reason why a case gets to them.

[scottw]

democrats can't be bigots...it's a rule

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You love saying that criticism of the left are taken out of context, yet I have never seen you once, put it in the correct context. Could you tell us what the correct context is, please?

She also authored 5 majority opinions that were reviewed by the Supreme Court (when she was in the lower court), 3 were overturned. She was found to have been wrong, 60% of the time. Now from what I understand, the SCOTUS overturns a high % of cases, because there is usually a reason why a case gets to them.

The reason I said just like Gorsuch is because both parties get their turn and both whine about the others choice.
Laura Gomez said:
"I was a speaker at the conference Sotomayor's speech kicked off, and I would like to put her comment in context.

Entitled "Raising the Bar: Latino and Latina Presence in the Judiciary and the Struggle for Representation," the conference brought together -- for the first time, to my knowledge -- judges, lawyers, scholars and law students to consider the state of Latinos in the judiciary.

By 2050, Hispanics will be 30 percent of the U.S. population, and yet the number of Latino judges remains tiny. The number of female Hispanic judges is even smaller; Sotomayor is one of two Hispanic women among federal appellate judges, and there are not much more than that among the hundreds of federal district judges.

Part of the impetus for the conference was to signal the potential crisis for our courts in the 21st century if we do not get more Latino lawyers interested in becoming judges and more appointed to the bench.

In this context, I did not find Sotomayor's comment controversial. As I look at the speech eight years later, I'm struck by how measured and careful she was in making the claim.

First, the sentence I have quoted here followed Sotomayor's acknowledgement that there is no universal definition of "wise."


Second, she presented the statement as aspirational by using the phrase "I would hope"; she was talking as much about the ideal of diversity as its reality.

Third, she specified that she was talking not about all Latinas and all white men but about ideal types; she invoked a "wise" Hispanic woman who has had a particular set of life experiences and white male judges who have not "lived that life" (suggesting that some white males could, in fact, bring a similar empathy and/or life experience to the bench).

Fourth, she went out of her way to say that she thought this would be the case "more often than not," rather than all the time.

Finally, in the next sentence of her speech, Sotomayor went on to specify that she was addressing the dynamics of an appellate court with multiple judges (such as the three-judge and en banc panels on which she sits as an appeals court judge and the Supreme Court), rather than talking about a trial court context in which a single judge presides.

She was referencing the group dynamics on a U.S. Supreme Court of nine justices who converse publicly during oral arguments and privately during conferences over cases. In these settings, who a judge is, in all the ways that matter, undoubtedly affects his or her own thinking about cases as well as that of the other justices.

Does anyone that doubt that Justice Thurgood Marshall's identity as an African-American male or his experience as a civil rights lawyer shaped his judicial philosophy and influence his fellow justices some of the time? Most watchers of the Supreme Court have similarly concluded that Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg have had a great impact on their colleagues in cases of particular interest to women, such as abortion and sex discrimination.

Ultimately, whether, holding other things constant, women of color make "better" judges than white men is an empirical question that we are unable to answer definitively any time soon, given the small numbers of minority judges.

That inquiry itself begs the question of quality explicit in Judge Sotomayor's comment: What makes one judge better than another? Better for whom? Some political scientists have argued that the appropriate measure is essentially political: Is the judge better for those who elected the president who nominated the Supreme Court justice?

At the end of the day, a judge's race and gender may have less impact on how she decides a particular case than how the larger public perceives the court on which she sits. In a society in which African-Americans and Hispanics, in particular, report high rates of dissatisfaction and lack of faith in the courts and other criminal justice institutions, the racial and gender makeup of the judiciary has greater relevance.

Of 111 Supreme Court justices, all but four have been white men. It's past time the nation's highest court looked more like the nation."
Laura Gómez is professor of law and American studies at the University of New Mexico. Gómez, who has a Ph.D. in sociology and a law degree from Stanford University, is the author of "Manifest Destinies: The Making of the Mexican American Race.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Having judicial experience didn't stop Sonia Sotomayor from saying this, which should prevent her form ever serving on a jury, let along on the Supreme Court...

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,”

You cannot get more bigoted than that, you simply cannot, and she will be on that bench for the rest of my life. White men, by virtue of their skin pigmentation and genitals, make inferior judges. That's super.

And she said that 8 years before she was appointed and she made it through confirmation. Just like Gorsuch did, that is the way the game works.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And she said that 8 years before she was appointed and she made it through confirmation. Just like Gorsuch did, that is the way the game works.

Oh, so what's the statute of limitations, exactly, for when your bigotry expires and you are fit for the Supreme Court?

I am aware she got confirmed. That doesn't mean she's not a maniac and a bigot.