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Old 11-04-2008, 11:04 PM   #1
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:35 AM   #2
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Yes we have.

A good night it has been. A good night indeed.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:24 AM   #3
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YA THINK? I told my wife last nite to give it 6 months or a year and let's see how many people will be looking for change by then.

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be careful what you wish for.....

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Old 11-05-2008, 07:48 AM   #6
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now the post election rush
followed by the honeymoon hundred days
followed by 1500 days of, can I vote the b********d out?
Hopefully this dude has more to offer than Deval, his main bud.

hen we can reelect a Bush - Jeb!!
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:58 AM   #7
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I will sit here this morning after this historic and flawed (no, not flawed over fraud but by poor candidates) election and pray that Eben, Likwid, Spence, BssB, et al are smarter than me. I know Brian is smarter than me - he's an effin' scientist for cryin' out loud.

I now need to Hope that O will be a center-moderate Prez and that the 18% approval rating congress will find in their hearts the need to make rational decisions and not feel like they have the keys to the candy store. If congress does too much of this:
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which is what I expect, we're in for a world of hurt.

I now need to Hope that our nations enemies will not feel emboldened, and should that happen, O can meet that challenge and the congress can develop enough spine to support O and that the right decisions will be made.

I hope congress does more to grow the pie, to support jobs and invest in technologies central to America's Technological & Entrepreneurial leadership in the world - before we get passed by. I hope congress does not choose to simply further divide the existing pie.

I hope that the viciousness of the (radical?) far left does not mirror the viciousness of the far right (Freepers) - for a bunch of peacenik hippies they sure seem to have a mean streak (and are in need a beating).


I sincerely hope that O can accomplish unifying this country in a positive way, support those that keep this country free (this is big in my book), and right some of the wrongs of the past 8 years.



Four years, the clock just started ticking. Do a good job O, and you'll have my support for the next 4. Turn us into the PRC or Europeanize our Country, then you in 4.

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:08 AM   #8
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hen we can reelect a Bush - Jeb!!
Haven't had enough war have you?

Congrats to MA.

No on 1
Yes on 2
Yes on 3

Good to see the state has SOME common effing sense.

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Haven't had enough war have you?

Congrats to MA.

No on 1
Yes on 2
Yes on 3

Good to see the state has SOME common effing sense.

However, we reelected The Gigilo and hard bottom
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My biggest fear is that entrepreneurs will say screw it, it is just not worth it anymore. The top combined tax rate will be over 50% now. Why work at all??, let the gov take care of me. 35% pay no tax, the top 1% pay now pay 40% of the tax burden...and he wants to make that 50%. Unreal. IMO he effectively bought this position by offering the masses redistribution to those that just want handouts.

My second biggest fear is the gutting of the military and safety of the US citizens. Wait till the next domestic terrorist attack, and real foreign threats from Iran and N. Korea. The %$%$%$%$ will hit the fan then.

Most voters are short sighted and naive. Stock futures are headed down. Better get out before that cap gains kicks in next year.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:26 AM   #11
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:27 AM   #12
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John Rs response was brlliant and I echo his comments 100%.
As far as the MA vote, I am bummed about the income tax and dog tracks, heres to more unemplyoment in MA and wasted state spending. Glad the pot measure was passed. Who'd a thought thats the only thing I voted for that won!

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:35 AM   #13
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Good response John.

As I've posted lately, many pundits on both sides have said he will end up being a more traditional, center left president. I tend to agree.
After 8 years of a downward slide, lets hope we can make the climb up. either side would have had a hard road up this hill.

As has been discussed here, I actually think it is a good thing that the right still has filibuster capabilities, as long as it isn't abused.

Good luck.
lets keep the debate coming!

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:54 AM   #14
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JohnR very well said....

One thing that I really enjoyed about yesterday was the fact that the youth of the country actually put down the controllers long enough to make it to the polls. Agree with who they voted for or not at least they voted and got involved, actually feel like they made a difference. That right there is an encouraging sign.

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Old 11-05-2008, 09:18 AM   #15
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Nebe, dont forget, if your erection lasts for more than 4 hours you need to call a doctor

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People were actually smiling and smiling at me on my way to work this morning. Hope is more powerful than fear.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:51 AM   #18
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...he's got his work cut out for him.
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People were actually smiling and smiling at me on my way to work this morning. Hope is more powerful than fear.
and actions speak louder than words

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...he's got his work cut out for him.
You ain't kiddin'. Hopefully he uses his smarts to surround himself with some really good people. This country's in pretty rough shape right now and it's going to take a while to get it back on track.

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New Rules... if your erection lasts more than 4 hours, you need to call more chicks.....
I forget what stand-up said that, but it was 'If it lasts more than four hours, I'm not calling my doctor, I'm calling everyone!'


I was very happy last night, but I absolutely agreee regardless of who won it is a tough job for sure.

The big test is going to be putting together a staff. Even if I wont be happy if he fills his staff with complete far-leftist moonbats

I think he is smart enough to surround himself with smart people.

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...he's got his work cut out for him.
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Nebe, dont forget, if your erection lasts for more than 4 hours you need to call a doctor
Im hopping it lasts at least 4 years.
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I think he is smart enough to surround himself with smart people.
Ugh,,,,he hasnt in the past, why would he start now!

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Ugh,,,,he hasnt in the past, why would he start now!
Yeah.
lets pound on reverend wright some more.
Worked well in the election...

Read the last lines. Crossing party lines perhaps...
I'd have no problem keeping gates on...

(CNN) -- Even before Sen. Barack Obama won the presidential election, he was quietly building a transition team.

In fact, both Obama and Sen. John McCain were laying the groundwork to shift from campaign to White House transition -- the 10 weeks between the election and the inauguration isn't enough time to assemble a team to lead the country.

CNN Political Editor Mark Preston said Obama's victory speech on Tuesday launched the transition.

"The campaign was over when McCain called to concede," Preston said. "Tonight's speech was about governing. It was a very serious tone -- he was setting the tone, taking his first steps as president." VideoWatch Obama's acceptance speech »

CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that it's important to take steps quickly to set the right tone, pointing to President Clinton, who waited weeks to fill Cabinet positions and announced many of his top staffers just five days before he was sworn in.

"Everything you do early on in a presidency gets magnified. You don't want to make the same mistakes that Bill Clinton made," Borger said.

Obama has no public events scheduled on Wednesday. He will most likely travel to Hawaii soon for the funeral of his grandmother, who died on Monday.

He is expected to name his White House chief of staff as early as Wednesday. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago colleague, is the clear front-runner for the job. Possible appointees for Obama's administration »

Emanuel helped lead Democrats to majority control of the House in 2006. He was elected to the House in 2002 and is currently the fourth-highest-ranking member of the chamber's Democratic leadership.

He also worked on President Clinton's first presidential campaign and served as a White House adviser to Clinton.

John Podesta, a former chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, will be among those leading Obama's transition team. Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama's top advisers, and Peter Rouse, Obama's Senate chief of staff, will also be involved the effort.

Jarrett told CNN that Obama will begin making public his plans for the transition soon.

"In the days ahead, you will be hearing more directly from Sen. Obama ... about the steps that he'll be taking to get prepared to lead on January 20," she said shortly after Obama gave his victory speech.

Filling out his economic team is a top priority for Obama as he begins to implement a strategy to quell the economic crisis.

"This is one of the first times that I can remember that the secretary of the treasury is going to be almost as important as the secretary of state," said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN, who served in the Reagan and Clinton administrations.

Names circulating for the secretary of the treasury position include Timothy Geithner, Lawrence Summers and Paul Volcker, among others.

Geithner helped deal with Wall Street's financial meltdown earlier this year, overseeing the acquisition of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan Chase and the bailouts of AIG and Lehman Brothers. He was appointed president of the New York Federal Reserve in November 2003.

Summers was appointed treasury secretary in July 1999 and served as the chief economist of the World Bank from 1991 through 1993. Prior to his career in government, he taught economics at Harvard.

Volcker is a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, serving under Presidents Carter and Reagan. He also worked in the private sector as an investment banker and headed the investigation into the United Nations' oil-for-food program for Iraq.

The White House is holding an economic summit on November 15. Obama could delay naming his economic team in order to avoid interfering with the G-20 summit.

Obama's national security team is another priority as the country fights wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It could also be an area where he goes outside his party for an appointee.

Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and current Defense Secretary Robert Gates are among the names floating around for that team.

Hagel, who was elected to the Senate in 1996 and is a Vietnam veteran, has been a fierce critic of the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war.

Gates has served in Bush's cabinet for almost two years. He worked for the Central Intelligence Agency for 27 years, serving as its director from 1991 through 1993. He also served as deputy national security adviser under President George H. W. Bush.

"What Barack Obama has to do in the transition time is set the tone," Borger said. "If he reaches out to Republicans in the cabinet -- if he decided to keep Bob Gates at Defense -- that's really, really important."

Bryan

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Actually Bryan, the McCain campaign never touched Rev. Wright, never came up once.

Thats my own personal grievance with our President elect.

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Actually Bryan, the McCain campaign never touched Rev. Wright, never came up once.

Thats my own personal grievance with our President elect.
McCain didn't, but the RNC did...

I think your going to see a who's who on the list of cabinet people.
From the left, center and right if they are qualified...


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I am very curious to see who he chooses for his cabinet. I do think that all of you who are scared chitless that we just elected a socialist into office need to realize that all of us have been pummeled with fear tactics from both sides and have seen the negatives of both Obama and McCain amplified 100%..

I dont dare to imagine that Omama is going to save the universe overnight, but I do say with confidence that he will be a huge improvement over what he have had the last 8 years. Mccain would have been an improvement as well... but my greatest issue with the thought of McCain winning was that he would not flush DC of those who were responsible for getting us in the mess that we are in in regards to Iraq..

I view yesterday as a regime change and I cant wait to see someone in office that will focus on the issues of our country and focus less on screwing with other countries...
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I think that the Obama supporters on this board have been pretty gracious.

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Please Mr. Obama. Please take Deval Patrick from us here in Massachusetts and add him to your cabinet. I'll even drive him down to DC in my car.

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