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01-11-2019, 10:36 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
If he can constitutionally legally use the emergency declaration, it won’t be able to build the whole wall anyway since it won’t cover eminent domain, so yes I would be against that part of taking land.
Your other situation is NOT constitutional so it would be overturned unless Congress repeals the second amendment and everyone in the country should be against that if you want to be a free country.
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Yes you would rightly feel that is a clear overreach of presidential power, yet that is exactly what Trump is planning to do IMHO. He f’ed the federal employees over a campaign promise and regardless of how everyone views the actual scope of the border problem, if you can honestly say you believe it warrants POTUS declaring national emergency; I think drinking all that red coolaid has clouded your judgement.
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01-11-2019, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yes you would rightly feel that is a clear overreach of presidential power, yet that is exactly what Trump is planning to do IMHO. He f’ed the federal employees over a campaign promise and regardless of how everyone views the actual scope of the border problem, if you can honestly say you believe it warrants POTUS declaring national emergency; I think drinking all that red coolaid has clouded your judgement.
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^^^^^^ this
If Trump will fabricate a crisis to call a national emergency we’re into some dark territory.
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01-11-2019, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yes you would rightly feel that is a clear overreach of presidential power, yet that is exactly what Trump is planning to do IMHO.
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Slipknot spelled it out correctly. It is not a question of personal opinion. It is a matter of constitutionality. Is your opinion based on the circumscribed Executive power in Article 2 of the Constitution? Or is it based on your personal feelings?
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01-11-2019, 11:13 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Slipknot spelled it out correctly. It is not a question of personal opinion. It is a matter of constitutionality. Is your opinion based on the circumscribed Executive power in Article 2 of the Constitution? Or is it based on your personal feelings?
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The facts prove the problem at the border is half of what it was a decade ago, yet because in two years he has failed to deliver his main campaign promise, he has to change the narrative to a full blown crisis to justify his actions, so yes it is about opinion. He has the right to declare a national emergency, but does he have the right to do so, only to fulfill a campaign promise?
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01-11-2019, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
The facts prove the problem at the border is half of what it was a decade ago, yet because in two years he has failed to deliver his main campaign promise, he has to change the narrative to a full blown crisis to justify his actions, so yes it is about opinion. He has the right to declare a national emergency, but does he have the right to do so, only to fulfill a campaign promise?
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He has a right to do it under the proper conditions described in the emergency. But funding it all could be held up in Court challenges until the next election. A new President could stop it.
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