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Old 06-26-2018, 02:04 PM   #121
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Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??
nope...the party of LOVE is only interested in spreading good intentions...they'd never stoop that low...and....they'd have to get off their high horse...but if they did...it would be justified...obviously
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There's no parity here, not even close.
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She's not President.
Sorry but I think there might be a higher standard.
Just like I think we should have a higher standard to be one of a hundred Senators than one of 435 representatives all representing the 325 million people who live in the USA.
Neither was Donald Trump in the video. Those were before He was elected.

So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.

Personally, i agree that they should ALL be held to a higher standard. And we have ourselves to blame because we attack the good and leave ourselves the crap to pick through.

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Neither was Donald Trump in the video. Those were before He was elected.

So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.

Personally, i agree that they should ALL be held to a higher standard. And we have ourselves to blame because we attack the good and leave ourselves the crap to pick through.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:39 PM   #126
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How about his latest then
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No way I'm listening to an hour of him.
no way I'm bothering clicking all of those links...good grief
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So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.
Her remark wasn't smart but it doesn't even register on the Trump scale.
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Ah the old everybody does it argument. There's no parity here, not even close.
That is right, the vocal left is far out-crappifying the vocal right. If you listed to the radical left, Handmaiden's Tale is right around the corner if we don't die first because of a Travel Ban or Taxes or something or Stormy.

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This thread demonstrates how blind all parties become when it comes to shouldering the blame. For two of the biggest blowhards to portray a certain dope as a common denominator in the Republican Party is a true indicator of their parity hopes. Not many here defend Trump but they will at least go to bat for him when he does something good for the country. The same folks criticize him when he makes another of his errors. Love watching the 4 year meltdown the fools are enduring. Almost as entertaining as Trump in a car crash way.
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How have we gotten along with no travel Ban... Just more of the same why isn't Mexico on the list we are getting invaded are we not??
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what travel ban?
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what travel ban?
exactly It was never needed to keep America safe ... it was just for his Base to keep them safe from The brown Muslim boogeyman.. that are coming to take their country away .....
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exactly It was never needed to keep America safe ... it was just for his Base to keep them safe from The brown Muslim boogeyman.. that are coming to take their country away .....
huh?
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This could get interesting.

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Love watching the 4 year meltdown the fools are enduring. Almost as entertaining as Trump in a car crash way.
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If Schadenfreude were enough, it alone would be worth it for many. But it does take the edge off.

I do not know what will be worse for the Republic; Trump or Trump Derangement Syndrome though I am thinking the latter.

If Ted Cruz had one it would have been similar though not as vocal, if Romney had won a few years back, similar but less intense.

On a party basis, the right was very critical of Obama but not hysterical in emotion as the left is for Trump.

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On a party basis, the right was very critical of Obama but not hysterical in emotion as the left is for Trump.
This is where you're just not being serious.
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If Schadenfreude were enough, it alone would be worth it for many. But it does take the edge off.

I do not know what will be worse for the Republic; Trump or Trump Derangement Syndrome though I am thinking the latter.

If Ted Cruz had one it would have been similar though not as vocal, if Romney had won a few years back, similar but less intense.

On a party basis, the right was very critical of Obama but not hysterical in emotion as the left is for Trump.
What glasses are you seeing this thru because I need a pair .... at what point will his actions be seen as his actions and not as hysterical emotion from the left ??

I have stated this before the left is not attacking Trump on imaginary events like the birther issue or he is really a Muslim or he bowed or forgot to salute some one.. Trumps actions are very real and spoken and have a direct impact


but seeing you can rationalize the right treatment of obama stolen court appointments 8 years of obstruction as the right only basis was being critical... is totally devoid of facts in an attempt to re write history
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Maxine Waters' comments condone public violence and encourage actions that jeopardize the safety and security of government officials and the American people.


a complete lie to rally the base .... that was never said but 1a rights are only supported on the right when it suites them... But no one on the right cares what Trump says


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is it ok for the POTUS to attack an American owned Business ? apparently his supporters dont see an issue but its fine for Trump administration sides with Colorado baker who refused to make wedding cake for gay couple amazing how that works
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I have stated this before the left is not attacking Trump on imaginary events like the birther issue or he is really a Muslim or he bowed or forgot to salute some one.. Trumps actions are very real and spoken and have a direct impact
You forgot his fraternization with terrorists, that's he's a socialist etc... etc...

But this is exactly the point. A huge amount of right wing frenzy over Obama was rooted in baseless conspiracies.

This is what concerns me about where the Republican party has gone as the new party of Trump. Facts don't matter, the media is the enemy, the Deep State is controlling everything, we're being overrun with Mexican rapists and Islamic terrorists, alliances don't matter, they've taken all our jobs and on and on...

It's all a giant false narrative to confuse, gaslight and play the victim card on just about every issue.
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Maxine Waters' comments condone public violence and encourage actions that jeopardize the safety and security of government officials and the American people.

a complete lie to rally the base .... that was never said
yeah, never happened

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up,” she said at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday. “And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

a complete fabrication.

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It's statements like Wayne's that make me wonder about just how informed he could be. Where are all the rights groups protesting this type of treatment? They had no problem making a big stink out of gays being refused service...
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yeah, never happened

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up,” she said at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday. “And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

a complete fabrication.

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Were is the call for violence I know your compehension skills are not that poor and you posted it word for word I guess she should have said... use your 1st amendment rights and when you see them be heard let them know your displeasure in their policy's and action but I am guessing you would still think it was a call to violence let me know when you find the violence part ( plz don't say when she said push back that would be very snowflake indeed)

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Even Trumps spreading the lie
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She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many, of the Make America Great Again movement.
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John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does
while we wait for your clarification....here are Justice Kennedy's pointed comments regarding the leadership of the "progressive" California Legislature...

"The California Legislature included in its official history the congratulatory statement that the Act was part of California’s legacy of “forward thinking.” App. 38–39. But it is not forward thinking to force individuals to “be an instrument for fostering public adherence to an ideological point of view [they] fin[d] unacceptable.” Wooley v. Maynard, 430 U. S. 705, 715 (1977). It is forward thinking to begin by reading the First Amendment as ratified in 1791; to understand the history of authoritarian government as the Founders then knew it; to confirm that history since then shows how relentless authoritarian regimes are in their attempts to stifle free speech; and to carry those lessons onward as we seek to preserve and teach the necessity of freedom of speech for the generations to come. Governments must not be allowed to force persons to express a message contrary to their deepest convictions. Freedom of speech secures freedom of thought and belief. This law imperils those liberties."
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Were is the call for violence I know your compehension skills are not that poor and you posted it word for word I guess she should have said... use your 1st amendment rights and when you see them be heard let them know your displeasure in their policy's and action but I am guessing you would still think it was a call to violence let me know when you find the violence part ( plz don't say when she said push back that would be very snowflake indeed)
You never said a call for violence, so why would my response have anything to do with a call to violence. But you did point out "Encourage actions that jeopardize the safety and security of government officials"

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so if you don't think that the wording (Bolded for your pleasure) she used wouldn't rile people up to possibly act violently, then you are the most naive person roaming the planet.

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“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up,” she said at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday. “And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.
Or how about this, what would your reaction be if Trump said those SAME EXACT words about democrats in Congress? Would you be OK with it then, or would you be calling for his head for bullying and threatening members of congress.

I'm thinking this:


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Or how about this, what would your reaction be if Trump said those SAME EXACT words about democrats in Congress? Would you be OK with it then, or would you be calling for his head for bullying and threatening members of congress.
Hasn't he already said far worse?
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You never said a call for violence, so why would my response have anything to do with a call to violence. But you did point out "Encourage actions that jeopardize the safety and security of government officials"



so if you don't think that the wording (Bolded for your pleasure) she used wouldn't rile people up to possibly act violently, then you
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Or how about this, what would your reaction be if Trump said those SAME EXACT words about democrats in Congress? Would you be OK with it then, or would you be calling for his head for bullying and threatening members of congress.

I'm thinking this:

What you have in bold text are nothing but predictions , This what the right tends to do take what some one said to include Trump then spend days telling us what they ment to say , seems you didn't see trumps tweet he involved all his supporters ... I am just pointing out she never mentioned violence that was started by the Right and mention waters and conservatives head do explode Like that
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Her remark wasn't smart but it doesn't even register on the Trump scale.
Wasn't smart? It was beyond stupid, made her sound just like Trump back in the rallies asking people to smack the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of a protester on the other side of the aisle. She should be publicly reprimanded.
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