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Old 07-18-2019, 06:51 AM   #61
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much of the disagreement is the fact that the left has co-opted the issue and turned it in to a political hammer and vilified and attempted to exorcise anyone who doesn't go along with their religious zealotry...I think AOCommunist's "brain and mentor" admitted as much recently as if it wasn't already clear, the issue of the environment is simply a mechanism by which the socialists fundamentally change society more to their liking and generate funds to do so...so there is certainly science showing that the earth's climate is changing, it is after all "living and breathing"... not to mention the fact that we've paved, built on, altered and forever disturbed huge land spaces and waterways, shoreline..we will continue to do so and continue to create ridiculous amounts of waste...are we really shocked when a city built below sea level is flooded???? I've mentioned that I think each person/family should be forced to keep a month's waste/garbage on property to see how they deal with it and make them aware of how much they actually produce...regardless of what you do, it's nothing more than a bandaid on what has already been done and what will continue to be done and we are just a blip on the history of the planet....humanity is on a crash course, it's just a matter of time...we will extinct ourselves...I like it warmer...bring the heat!
I agree with everything with maybe the exception of the left using it strictly as a political hammer. I also am not in agreement that mankind will cause its own extinction, unless we continue down the same path we have been going down.

I’m also not saying this is issue number one facing the US, but to dismiss it as a non issue, to abandon our global partnerships and to deregulate and reverse course is a bad change of course. Look at where we are today technically as compared to a generation ago and imagine where we will be in another, I have to believe solutions to cease or even reverse the carbon problem will be available, provided we don’t do to much damage before that’s available.

I can see the planet doing a major reset by a super volcano like Yellowstone blowing, some large metor impact before a Bruce Willis and grew can get to it, mankind being stupid enough to get into a global nuclear war or than there is is the new buzz over the UFO sightings; could they be a precursor to something 👀👀👀
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Old 07-18-2019, 07:31 AM   #62
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mthe left has co-opted the issue and turned it in to a political hammer and vilified and attempted to exorcise anyone who doesn't go along with their religious zealotry...!
Is there an issue for which the left doesn't do this?

If you are pro life, you hate women.

If you support legal immigration, you are a xenophobe.

If you are for strong national defense, you are an Islamophobe.

If you believe in traditional marriage, you are a homophobe.

If you think there is a limit to how high taxes can go, you hate poor people and want them to die.

If you are opposed to socialized medicine, you hate sick people and want then to die.

If you believe our priority should be to help Americans thrive, you are a white nationalist.

If you don't want to live in a yurt and walk to work, you are a science denier.

If you think economic growth is awesome, you only care about rich people, because somehow middle class and poor people are absolutely immune from the benefits of a surging economy, only hedge fund managers benefit from a surging economy. I have never heard an explanation as to why that is (I'm more of a 'rising tides lift all boats' kind of guy), but liberals sure believe it.

Hilary's "basket of deplorables" comment summed it up very nicely.

You know what you rarely see from the left? Rational explanations of why their ideas are better. What you hear far more often, is how hateful and racist everyone on the right is. You hear that often, and it is usually delivered by someone screaming and who is very angry at the moment. Watch CNN or MSNBC in primetime sometime.
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Wayne - Jim and I have largely been on the same page WRT Deficits / Debts as long as he's been on the forum. I would venture that we both protest this the most.


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Is there an issue for which the left doesn't do this?

If you are pro life, you hate women.

If you support legal immigration, you are a xenophobe.

If you are for strong national defense, you are an Islamophobe.

If you believe in traditional marriage, you are a homophobe.

If you think there is a limit to how high taxes can go, you hate poor people and want them to die.

If you are opposed to socialized medicine, you hate sick people and want then to die.

If you believe our priority should be to help Americans thrive, you are a white nationalist.

If you don't want to live in a yurt and walk to work, you are a science denier.

If you think economic growth is awesome, you only care about rich people, because somehow middle class and poor people are absolutely immune from the benefits of a surging economy, only hedge fund managers benefit from a surging economy. I have never heard an explanation as to why that is (I'm more of a 'rising tides lift all boats' kind of guy), but liberals sure believe it.

Hilary's "basket of deplorables" comment summed it up very nicely.

You know what you rarely see from the left? Rational explanations of why their ideas are better. What you hear far more often, is how hateful and racist everyone on the right is. You hear that often, and it is usually delivered by someone screaming and who is very angry at the moment. Watch CNN or MSNBC in primetime sometime.
That generalization on what most Democrats believe or stand for, is about as far off base as stating all republicans are racist, white nationalist women hating old school farts. As an independent I see much wrong on both sides and at times I’m as disgusted (Omars past comments) with what I hear on the left as I am with what I don’t hear out of the right.

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That generalization on what most Democrats believe or stand for, is about as far off base as stating all republicans are racist, white nationalist women hating old school farts. As an independent I see much wrong on both sides and at times I’m as disgusted (Omars past comments) with what I hear on the left as I am with what I don’t hear out of the right.

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did you hear hilary’s desirables comment? i watch cnn and msnbc most nights, that’s what i see. in the other thread, spence called
me intolerant because i don’t think Rep Omar is fit to serve in congress because she was so dismissive of 09/11. spence is very smart, but he’s liberal first, and he can’t begin to address my concerns about her, so he lobbed the bigot charge. i’m not even a little
bit wrong.

watch an abortion debate. one side will
claim that it’s alive and life is precious, the other side will
shriek about enslaving women ( despite the fact that tons of women are pro life).
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