Whats up with some parents.......?

[taJon]

So I'm flying home last night and some little brat is screaming for the entire flight. At one point the passenger next to me calls the flight attendent to tell him to do something and they did nothing. My blood was boiling cause I don't really like kids to begin with and I was tired as hell, so this kid was more than I could take.

why wouldn't the dad keep him quiet. appearently the 150 other people love his kid too. well maybe if you cook him right

[boot man]

I beg to differ, most parents do not take joy in their kiddie crying ruining everyone else's flight. On the contrary I bet the parents would have done almost anything to stop the crying. The kid was more than likely uncomfortable (ears+pressure).

I've been in that situation, I'd rather be the the pissed off passenger who doesnt have kids or want kids (except with some fava beans and a nice chianti) and doesnt remember being a kid than the parent of a kid in pain and no remedy in sight until landing.

I feel your pain but if that was your biggest problem yesterday, you had a pretty good day.

On the other hand if the kid was screaming because he didnt get his way, that would be a good time to ask the parent if he has ever seen the last episode of M*A*S*H*.

[FishermanTim]

Reminds me of an old Bill Cosby skit he did regarding a 4 yr old named Jeffrey on a flight he was taking.
The child drove EVERYONE (including the mother) crazy with his antics, and as they were landing, Jeffrey finally fell asleep.
The passengers had the joy of waking him LOUDLY as they exited the plane. The final line of this story was as the mother approached the father at the gate, she decked him.

[spence]

Sometimes there's nothing you can do...I will say that after having my son make life difficult for everyone, I'm a lot more tolerant when it's someone elses kid

But this is moot if the parent is an idiot and can't control their kid

-spence

[justplugit]

Just plain ordinary lack of manners by the parents.
To alot of them, these kids are their Gods and could care less about anybody but themselves, thinking their kids walk on water.

Was eating out last week with my wife trying to enjoy a nice dinner.
Little kid about 7 acting up, disturbing everybody and the mother does nothing.

Finally the kid starts hitting her mother.
Mother says, now your not getting any dessert.
Kid keeps hitting her, Mother says now we are not going to the movies.
Kid keeps hitting her, Mother says, you can't play with your Barbies when we get home.
Kid kept hitting her knowing she had so many toys home it didn't make any difference.
Went on for what seemed forever.

Spoiled kids, parents fault.

[Raven]

there is value to the saying: seen but not heard

[Backbeach Jake]

We, Jenn and I, taught our kids how to behave and treated them as if they were people, not pets, from birth. We never had behaviour problems in public.
One road trip when our two were only 7 and 4 we drove the first leg from Clinton MA to Hershey ,PA. The only restaurant open was this rather snooty place. The Hostess, who I would guess was my age now, had a horror struck look in her eyes as we walked in and asked for a table with the two twerps. They sat up, didn't destroy the table, didn't make a mess, weren't loud, actually behaved like miniture adults. That's how the had been reguarded anr treated all their lives at that point.
When we left, the Hostess complimented us on the behaviour of our kids, and I think that it was extraordinary after a 10-12 hour drive.
My point here is: Kids will behave in the manner that they are raised. Treat them like pets and you get monkeys, treat them like people who have dignity and opinions , and try to develope them, and you get some pretty cool people.

[Nebe]

if you didnt like it you could have gotten out

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

We, Jenn and I, taught our kids how to behave and treated them as if they were people, not pets, from birth. We never had behaviour problems in public.
One road trip when our two were only 7 and 4 we drove the first leg from Clinton MA to Hershey ,PA. The only restaurant open was this rather snooty place. The Hostess, who I would guess was my age now, had a horror struck look in her eyes as we walked in and asked for a table with the two twerps. They sat up, didn't destroy the table, didn't make a mess, weren't loud, actually behaved like miniture adults. That's how the had been reguarded anr treated all their lives at that point.
When we left, the Hostess complimented us on the behaviour of our kids, and I think that it was extraordinary after a 10-12 hour drive.
My point here is: Kids will behave in the manner that they are raised. Treat them like pets and you get monkeys, treat them like people who have dignity and opinions , and try to develope them, and you get some pretty cool people.

Jake that is "the most impressive" thing i have ever heard a parent say about raising children and teaching them respect...

i salute you sir... and bow to your wife Jenn for excellence

[Captain Jake]

my mom had triplets and so when we flew it was obviously hellish, and every time one of the babies would start shrieking my mom was always mortified and would do everything in her power to stop him/her(there was 1 girl). I would try not to judge the parent too harshly babies are difficult to control and you cant exactly reprimand them to improve their behavior.

[LT. DAN 2]

Ears + Pressure...
Our daughter had very sensitive ears under pressure from altitude. She would later describe it as the worsed killing ear ache and it wasn't until a teenager that she was able to fly comfortably. going to Disneyworld was no picnic....so we are more tolerant when we hear a baby/todler screaming.

[TheSpecialist]

Don't worry someday you will have kids, and have the whole thing figured out for everyone

[capecodder]

We have three kids 6 and under and think we have done fairly well so far in raising them. That said, we keep our fingers crossed everytime we step on an airplane or go to a restaurant. No telling when one will have a meltdown and in the confines of an airplane it is very difficult to stop it. The best way to stop a meltdown is to remove the kid from the situation... hard to do at 35000 feet.

For those of you without kids who point the fingers at the "bad" parents who do nothing, good luck if you ever have them. You're in for a surprise.

We prepare for a flight with enough supplies for an army to try and mitigate a meltdown for the benefit of everyone ELSE. Snacks, coloring, bottles, toys, you name it to try and keep them occupied. So far it has worked, but if our 1 yr old gets ear pain from the pressure, none of that works...

So easy to criticize everyone else or say "why bring your kids to the restaurant" ? Tell that to a couple who's only way of getting out of the house is with the kids... for YEARS!

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

We, Jenn and I, taught our kids how to behave and treated them as if they were people, not pets, from birth. We never had behaviour problems in public.
One road trip when our two were only 7 and 4 we drove the first leg from Clinton MA to Hershey ,PA. The only restaurant open was this rather snooty place. The Hostess, who I would guess was my age now, had a horror struck look in her eyes as we walked in and asked for a table with the two twerps. They sat up, didn't destroy the table, didn't make a mess, weren't loud, actually behaved like miniture adults. That's how the had been reguarded anr treated all their lives at that point.
When we left, the Hostess complimented us on the behaviour of our kids, and I think that it was extraordinary after a 10-12 hour drive.
My point here is: Kids will behave in the manner that they are raised. Treat them like pets and you get monkeys, treat them like people who have dignity and opinions , and try to develope them, and you get some pretty cool people.

Fred Very well said and lived.

[mrmacey]

IT was more than ears HMMMM Autism comes to mind cant control the behaviours but you really need to take this flight Hmmmm say something to the Dad out the side of your neck and OH OH you will probably unleash a wrath of Venting and explanation that will make you walk away and say See its all the Dads fault look at the way he acted. LOL!

By the way I havnt slept a full night in 4 years Please have a little Empathy for a parent. You just dont know and I forgive you for your ignorant comment. LEARN to be understanding.

[kevin d]

You can't always blame the kids and parents. Sometimes the situation is beyond their control. When I flew to Okinawa (18 hours) I got to fly with a bunch of families and kids. The couple in front of me had a 2 year old and a 6 month old. What exactly do you do to amuse them for 18 hours? I couldn't keep myself amused on that flight. The only time I got mad was when the 2 year old snuck under the seat and poured coke in my shoes while I was sleeping. I just woke the parents up and let them know what had happened. No point in yelling or making threats.
It did really bite having to spend the rest of the trip in uniform with a pair of wet and sticky feet.......