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[wdmso]

The FBI believed Donald Trump's foreign policy aide Carter Page had "been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government" during the 2016 election campaign, according to newly released documents.

Mr Page's relationships with Russian intelligence officials are highlighted in court applications which led to him being put under sur

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44916853

Trump again attacking the FBI and The DOJ shocking

Trump feels he is above the law and many of his supporters agree so sad for America we should start calling him Crooked Donald


Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
Congratulations to @JudicialWatch and @TomFitton on being successful in getting the Carter Page FISA documents. As usual they are ridiculously heavily redacted but confirm with little doubt that the Department of “Justice” and FBI misled the courts. Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!

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Looking more & more like the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon (surveillance) for the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Ask her how that worked out - she did better with Crazy Bernie. Republicans must get tough now. An illegal Scam!

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[detbuch]

You may have to turn on the sound if the volume icon is marked X:
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/sta...120321/video/1

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You may have to turn on the sound if the volume icon is marked X:
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/sta...120321/video/1

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...obinson-became
If you want to say the alt-right supports Trump you’re doing a good job
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You may have to turn on the sound if the volume icon is marked X:
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/sta...120321/video/1

saw a lot of coverage and posted a picture of one of their posters anti islam and i would suggest they were there for Tommy Robinson Trump just hitched a ride .. with another stand up guy


not sure what it has to do with the current topic

[DZ]

I guess we'll eventually find out about Page. So far no indictment or crime charged that he colluded with Russia to influence the election.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...obinson-became
If you want to say the alt-right supports Trump you’re doing a good job
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Steve Bannon, contrary to what your article implies, is not alt-right. What is your definition of alt-right? Labels are easy ways to smear someone without having to thoroughly discuss his ideas. "Alt-right" has conveniently and wrongly been used to supposedly discredit most of the "conservatives" in the alternative media--even those who have disavowed any association with those who have started the alt-right movement and with those who consider themselves alt-right. Ridiculously, for example, Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay, Jew, married to a black man, is referred to as alt-right. He and the alt-right virulently disavow each other. The alt-right is a very small ineffective group whose values are used to discredit the larger and more effective advocates of "right wing" or "conservative" ideas.

The actual reason that Tommy Robinson was outside of the Court was not discussed by your article. Nor is it written about or discussed by mainstream media. Robinson has been, as have been several others, trying to bring attention to what, for years, has or had been going on in some English cities, a so-called "grooming" (a type of kidnapping girls, very harshly and violently treating thousands of young British girls to serve as sex toys by Muslims). The trial, finally a recognition by authorities, after years of what was going on with nothing being done about it, was still not being given the major attention that it deserved.

If that sort of thing had been going on in this country, there would be reporters all over the story and the trial. Free speech in Britain is a shadow of what it used to be.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

saw a lot of coverage and posted a picture of one of their posters anti islam and i would suggest they were there for Tommy Robinson Trump just hitched a ride .. with another stand up guy


not sure what it has to do with the current topic

Your topic, for me, is your constant report of tweets that are supposed to make Trump look like a fool or like someone that is hated by our "allies." There is a lot of love for Trump in Europe that is not reported by our media, except occasionally as some fringe, kook, irrelevant and meaningless eruption.

Europe is having an "immigration" problem that is negatively impacting its established cultures, and which is increasingly being objected to by a large percentage of its citizens. That problem is centered around massive Islamic immigration.

And, as here, the mainstream Western European media, ignores the peoples concerns or accuses them of phobia. Eastern and part of Central Europe is rebuffing the forced EU immigration policy and bringing Merkel and her leadership to a brink of dissolution.

There has been the attempt to ignore the voices of dissent, pretending they didn't exist, confident that not giving it attention it would not be noticed and would go away, that all was well. Head-in-sand eventually backfires.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your topic, for me, is your constant report of tweets that are supposed to make Trump look like a fool

Seems you dont understand who's Tweets I am posting they are Solely From Trump.. he's the only one responsible for why he looks like a fool ...

Europe is having an "immigration" problem that is negatively impacting its established cultures, That problem is centered around massive Islamic immigration.


WOW can you post a bigger Lie or you are not well informed with Facts... but you have a bag full of Fear on most topics ...

Germany/Population
82.67 million (2016) The number of people with an immigrant background in Germany 18.6 million in 2016, largely due to an increase in refugees,

Yep they are destroying German Culture over night and I guess for you Mexicans are killings our established cultures, her in the USA



found this interesting Mesut Ozil is widely viewed as one of the most talented players on the German national soccer team. But he says his days of playing for Germany, the country he was born in, are over.



Ozil said that in the eyes of his detractors, "I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose."

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Europe is having an "immigration" problem that is negatively impacting its established cultures, and which is increasingly being objected to by a large percentage of its citizens.

Sounds like here with the settlers, the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Polish, Catholics of all types...
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[PaulS]

Didn't Bannon when he was running it, say Breitbart was the platform for the Alt Right

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Ridiculously, for example, Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay, Jew, married to a black man, is referred to as alt-right. He and the alt-right virulently disavow each other.

Seems like he made his name with inspiration from neo-nazi and other racist hate groups.

I feel bad for the guy actually. It seems like he really can't identify with who he is as a person so he takes it out on others.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

I feel bad for the guy actually. He knows he is a huge piece of #^&#^&#^&#^& as a person so he takes it out on others.

Fixed it for you

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

found this interesting Mesut Ozil is widely viewed as one of the most talented players on the German national soccer team. But he says his days of playing for Germany, the country he was born in, are over.


Ozil said that in the eyes of his detractors, "I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose."

Originally Posted by wdmso

not sure what it has to do with the current topic

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems you dont understand who's Tweets I am posting they are Solely From Trump.. he's the only one responsible for why he looks like a fool ...

Wrong.

The thing is, you fixate on his foolish tweets (of which there are many), and you ignore his positive accomplishments. Have you ever posted whether or not your family is enjoying your tax cuts? Is your union happy that the national economy is growing, which means more tax dollars for the union members? What do you think of Apple paying 38 billion in federal income tax, thanks to tax incentives to bring foreign profits back to the US?

If we only learned about Trump form you, all we'd ever see, are the stupid tweets. And while it's fair to hold him accountable for those, it's also fair to give him credit where it's due. You don't do that. You ignore all the good., and only post the bad.

We are the sum total of all we do, not just the bad things we do. Do you agree with that, or not?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems you dont understand who's Tweets I am posting they are Solely From Trump.. he's the only one responsible for why he looks like a fool ...

Of course I knew that the tweets you posted were Trump's tweets. I said you constantly reported THOSE tweets which supposedly made him look foolish. Your selective reports had that intention.

Europe is having an "immigration" problem that is negatively impacting its established cultures, That problem is centered around massive Islamic immigration.


WOW can you post a bigger Lie or you are not well informed with Facts... but you have a bag full of Fear on most topics ...

It seems that you are the one filled with fear over what Trump does, says, is, will be, and what he will do to the country and the world. And I am well informed about the immigration problem in Europe. The EU is teetering on the edge of being broken up because of the immigration problem.

Germany/Population
82.67 million (2016) The number of people with an immigrant background in Germany 18.6 million in 2016, largely due to an increase in refugees,

Yep they are destroying German Culture over night and I guess for you Mexicans are killings our established cultures, her in the USA

Where do you get that crap?

found this interesting Mesut Ozil is widely viewed as one of the most talented players on the German national soccer team. But he says his days of playing for Germany, the country he was born in, are over.

Ozil said that in the eyes of his detractors, "I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose."

Nice little anecdote. It may be an outlying fallout from the immigration problem. Or it may just be fickle soccer fans. Like those who love their heroes when they win and call them unflattering names when they lose. But it is not a refutation of there being an immigration problem.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Sounds like here with the settlers, the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Polish, Catholics of all types...
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No. It's a lot different. Those immigrants did not "groom" thousands of young American girls in various cities to be sex toys for their perverted men. They did not create no go zones for the police. They did not create large areas that lived outside of the local or national law, nor did they ask for their cultural or religious laws to supersede national or local laws. Nor did they create large portions of cities or towns that breed terrorism. And they got no more than freedom and personal responsibility from the US. They did not get all the perks that the Europeans provide the immigrants/refugees at the expense of their own citizens.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Didn't Bannon when he was running it, say Breitbart was the platform for the Alt Right

Whether he did or not, whatever the context may have been in either case, he did not claim to be Alt Right himself. And he demonstrably is not. He is an economic nationalist, not a white nationalist. His nationalism embraces "Americans" regardless of their color or ethnicity.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like he made his name with inspiration from neo-nazi and other racist hate groups.

This is one of your patented statements that sounds like it means something but is actually incoherent.

I feel bad for the guy actually. It seems like he really can't identify with who he is as a person so he takes it out on others.

This is all unverified nonsense. Neo-Nazis hate him and he hates them. And what race does he hate? He is married to a black man. He is not "inspired" by Nazis and racists. Where do you get this stuff?

[detbuch]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I feel bad for the guy actually. He knows he is a huge piece of #^&#^&#^&#^& as a person so he takes it out on others.

Fixed it for you

This is way beneath your usually measured and moderate posts. And what do you mean by "takes it out"?

[JohnR]

Europe does have an immigration problem and it is causing a lot of people to press back on their leaders.

That said, it doesn't mean all or most immigrants are bad but there are a enough that are problems and there is a result.

To blanket blame immigrants is bad and to blanket absolve immigrants does nothing to improve things.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

To blanket blame immigrants is bad and to blanket absolve immigrants does nothing to improve things.

You can't overlook the integration issues. First generation seem to be fine but the second might not like feel they fit in. I've talked to a lot of German cab drivers...done my research.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This is way beneath your usually measured and moderate posts. And what do you mean by "takes it out"?

For an openly gay man to speak so openly about how terrible being gay is doesn't pass a basic smell test. His alleged abuse could be a part of this. I think he's conflicted and this conflict is manifest in his critical nature of political correctness, GLBT issues etc... etc... etc...

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

For an openly gay man to speak so openly about how terrible being gay is doesn't pass a basic smell test. His alleged abuse could be a part of this.

You may be suffering from dysosmia disorder. Who would know better about the problems of being gay than a gay person?

I think he's conflicted and this conflict is manifest in his critical nature of political correctness, GLBT issues etc... etc... etc...

He is quite comfortable in his confliction. Confliction admitted, perceived, cognitively understood becomes extremely elucidatory. When confliction is manifestly regulated by one's cool, it becomes superlatively evaluative in estimating the critical nature of issues adherent to or relative to one's own condition. It tends to make one more expert on matters . . . not less . . . etc.

[Pete F.]

Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&

Originally Posted by detbuch

No. It's a lot different. This first one falls right in with your belief that Mexicans are retarded and child molesters
Those immigrants did not "groom" thousands of young American girls in various cities to be sex toys for their perverted men. They did not create no go zones for the police.
Little Italy, Southie, Chinatown, Koreatown
They did not create large areas that lived outside of the local or national law, nor did they ask for their cultural or religious laws to supersede national or local laws.
They were definitely allowed to take care of their own problems Nor did they create large portions of cities or towns that breed terrorism. And they got no more than freedom and personal responsibility from the US. They did not get all the perks that the Europeans provide the immigrants/refugees at the expense of their own citizens.

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[detbuch]

Pete F.
Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
No. It's a lot different. This first one falls right in with your belief that Mexicans are retarded and child molesters

This falls right in with your penchant for fake news. I never said that I believe that Mexicans are retarded and are child molesters.

Those immigrants did not "groom" thousands of young American girls in various cities to be sex toys for their perverted men. They did not create no go zones for the police.

Little Italy, Southie, Chinatown, Koreatown

Police had their normal presence and patrols and were not restricted from going into those ennclaves or did not stay away out of fear either of being assaulted or fear of being called racists if they enforced the law, or for fear that their own government would somehow punish them for some act of discrimination, or because nothing would change if they did try to enforce the law. And those communities had nothing even remotely similar to the Muslim "grooming" gangs.

They did not create large areas that lived outside of the local or national law, nor did they ask for their cultural or religious laws to supersede national or local laws.

They were definitely allowed to take care of their own problems

That comes with being free. We have less of that freedom now. And less of an inclination to take care of our own problems. Many are now more inclined to have the government take care of their problems.


Nor did they create large portions of cities or towns that breed terrorism. And they got no more than freedom and personal responsibility from the US. They did not get all the perks that the Europeans provide the immigrants/refugees at
the expense of their own citizens.

Exactly.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No. It's a lot different. Those immigrants did not "groom" thousands of young American girls in various cities to be sex toys for their perverted men. They did not create no go zones for the police. They did not create large areas that lived outside of the local or national law, nor did they ask for their cultural or religious laws to supersede national or local laws. Nor did they create large portions of cities or towns that breed terrorism. And they got no more than freedom and personal responsibility from the US. They did not get all the perks that the Europeans provide the immigrants/refugees at the expense of their own citizens.

You probably need to read up on your history. There were all kinds of similar "justifications." The Italians were fascists, they made there own neighborhoods and didn't integrate socially or religiously. The Irish, besides being consider low class drunks, had the Dead Rabbits and similar groups that did create portions of towns that terrorized and bred terrorism. They created no-go zone for the police and became the police. In all the cases, bigotry and stereotype supersedes reality. That said, I am sure the Russians have provided you plenty of information, so you might know more than I do. Heck, I didn't even know of Hillary's pizza shop until last summer when an in-law informed me about it and told me I would also vote for trump if I read all the things she had read about Hillary .

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by zimmy

You probably need to read up on your history. There were all kinds of similar "justifications." The Italians were fascists, they made there own neighborhoods and didn't integrate socially or religiously.

Did the police walk their beats? Did the fascists create grooming gangs that kidnapped thousands of young American girls for sex toys for Italians? Did they ask or demand that they be allowed to create fascist law that superseded US law? Were the fascist immigrants given social welfare perks? Did they have to pay their own way here? Were their girls killed if they associated with non-fascists?

The Irish, besides being consider low class drunks, had the Dead Rabbits and similar groups that did create portions of towns that terrorized and bred terrorism. They created no-go zone for the police and became the police.

Did the majority of Irish in those towns condone and support the hooligans? Was it part of being Irish, part of the Irish culture, part of Irish law, to create no go zones for non-Irish police, terrorize all who are not Irish, export that terrorism outside of their enclaves, demand that such Irish "code" supersede US and local law? Did they kill their daughters if they shamed them by intimately associating with non-Irish? Did they do anything similar in deed and scale such as kidnap thousands of non-Irish girls and "groom" them into being sex slaves? Were Irish immigrants given the kinds of perks to attract them coming here as is given to the Muslim immigrants in Europe, or even given to them here?

In all the cases, bigotry and stereotype supersedes reality.

There is something fundamentally different about Islam compared to the fundamental similarities of different ethnicities in Western culture? And it goes all the way into the core of being Muslim. And it is fundamentally antithetical to Western values. It is not just another case of ethnic quirks or limitations.

That said, I am sure the Russians have provided you plenty of information, so you might know more than I do. Heck, I didn't even know of Hillary's pizza shop until last summer when an in-law informed me about it and told me I would also vote for trump if I read all the things she had read about Hillary .

For sure. I have this locked in Russian connection. Believe me. Hillary and Pizza don't go together . . . on the other hand, she IS a kind of fascist.

[zimmy]

Way too many generalizations in that to even bother with. You wanna go down the road of the Catholic priests and make generalizations? There are problems with every group that involves humans. When you say it goes to the core of being Muslim, that reflects on you, not Islam.

[Sea Dangles]

In most cities cab drivers are guests. Usually they smell like curry .
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Way too many generalizations in that to even bother with. You wanna go down the road of the Catholic priests and make generalizations?
They were not generalizations. They were specific questions.

There are problems with every group that involves humans.

That is a generalization.

When you say it goes to the core of being Muslim, that reflects on you, not Islam.

It reflects my study of Islam. As it does the opinion of MANY scholars of that theocratic system. It reflects the opinion of converts and atheists who left that system. It reflects the understanding of those Muslims who want to reform their theocracy--it has not yet been reformed.

And it was about specific problems arising from that theocratic, cultural system in England and Europe. Actual problems that I did not invent. And the divide in Europe, over its Muslim immigration problem is large and a potential break-up of the EU. And a major reason the Brits voted for Brexit.

It was not about Muslims in the U.S.