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03-14-2022, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i asked you how you interpreted it, seems like a benign question.
i don’t need to disparage Biden. He does it to himself.
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I lay it out for .. only you are looking for hidden meanings
I am sure Saudi and UAE are happy with the price of oil , and they can’t condemn Russia while doing the same thing in Yemen , Big picture
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03-14-2022, 08:50 AM
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#662
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I lay it out for .. only you are looking for hidden meanings
I am sure Saudi and UAE are happy with the price of oil , and they can’t condemn Russia while doing the same thing in Yemen , Big picture
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you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.
of course they can condemn russia while doing the same thing, that’s what immoral dictators do.
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03-14-2022, 10:29 AM
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NEW: leaked Kremlin docs asking Tucker, Gabbard and Greenwald to tone it down a bit to be a little more credible
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03-14-2022, 12:15 PM
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Citibank still operating in Russia.... Right up there with Bank of America as top two banks screwing American public.
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Koch industries said they have no plans on leaving Russia. |
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03-14-2022, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.
of course they can condemn russia while doing the same thing, that’s what immoral dictators do.
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you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.
it is fact not spin , do some research All what I posted
So what about Donald Trump he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.
Didn't see republicans saying anything then But Know OMG |
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03-14-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
So what about Donald Trump he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.
Didn't see republicans saying anything then But Know OMG
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Was gas ever this high when Trump was POTUS?
Talk about false equivalency you accuse me of! |
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03-15-2022, 08:23 PM
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Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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03-15-2022, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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Heavens to Betsy! |
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03-15-2022, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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Clinton tweeted that she would like to thank the Russian Academy for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Lol
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03-16-2022, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Clinton tweeted that she would like to thank the Russian Academy for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Lol
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probably happy to have finally won something.... |
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03-16-2022, 05:13 AM
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Glad to see she finally shattered that glass ceiling 
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03-16-2022, 06:12 PM
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Well, at least Ukraine didn't escalate over the past week  |
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03-17-2022, 01:14 AM
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Seems like it’s easy for GOP lawmakers to support Zelensky now. the war is horrific, constituents are upset, they can pressure a Democratic president
hard when it meant holding Trump accountable for delaying military aid to extort him for political favors
247 of 248 wouldn't
just Mitt Romney
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03-17-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Trump accountable . . .delaying military aid to extort him for political favors
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Sometimes, often, you're like a broken R2D2 who's radio emissions are stuck on and keep emitting the same stupid useless message . . .
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03-17-2022, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Seems like it’s easy for GOP lawmakers to support Zelensky now. the war is horrific, constituents are upset, they can pressure a Democratic president
hard when it meant holding Trump accountable for delaying military aid to extort him for political favors
247 of 248 wouldn't
just Mitt Romney
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but when biden threatened to withhold aid unless ukraine fired a prosecutor, that’s ok?
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03-17-2022, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
but when biden threatened to withhold aid unless ukraine fired a prosecutor, that’s ok?
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While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.
Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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03-17-2022, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.
Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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did biden threaten to withhold
aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?
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03-17-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The claim: Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to assist his son, Hunter Biden
While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.
Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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03-17-2022, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
did biden threaten to withhold
aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?
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wow your back in deep with the conspiracy theories
Care to tell US Why he threatened to withhold Aid?/ its no secret
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03-17-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
wow your back in deep with the conspiracy theories
Care to tell US Why he threatened to withhold Aid?/ its no secret
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Your first sentence seems to suggest that Biden didn't actually threaten to withhold aid, and that I'm engaging in conspiracy theories. Then your next sentence seems to suggest that everyone knows Biden threatened to withhold aid.
You asked if I could say why he threatened to withhold aid. Here's my post you responded to:
"did biden threaten to withhold aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?"
WDMSO, when you read that sentence, it's not crystal clear why I believe Biden threatened to withhold aid?
You might want to get an MRI.
Biden threatened to withhold national aid to Ukraine, unless they fired a prosecutor we claim was corrupt. It's worth withholding aid to a nation to get rid of one corrupt lawyer? |
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03-17-2022, 03:50 PM
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Polifact:
• Vice President Joe Biden did urge Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, with the threat of withholding U.S. aid. But that was the position of the wider U.S. government, as well as other international institutions.
• We found no evidence to support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind, as the message suggests. It's not even clear that the company was actively under investigation or that a change in prosecutors benefited it.
and a link for another article:
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03-17-2022, 03:52 PM
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Polifact:
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nobody believes Polifact(?) anymore.... |
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03-17-2022, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Your first sentence seems to suggest that Biden didn't actually threaten to withhold aid, and that I'm engaging in conspiracy theories. Then your next sentence seems to suggest that everyone knows Biden threatened to withhold aid.
You asked if I could say why he threatened to withhold aid. Here's my post you responded to:
"did biden threaten to withhold aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?"
WDMSO, when you read that sentence, it's not crystal clear why I believe Biden threatened to withhold aid?
You might want to get an MRI.
Biden threatened to withhold national aid to Ukraine, unless they fired a prosecutor we claim was corrupt. It's worth withholding aid to a nation to get rid of one corrupt lawyer?
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hunter's laptop was russian disinformation too...whoops...not any more apparently |
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03-17-2022, 04:33 PM
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hunter's laptop was russian disinformation too...whoops...not any more apparently
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New York Times finally confirms Hunter Biden's laptop after dismissing it amid 2020 campaign:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...RL?ocid=msnews |
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03-17-2022, 07:14 PM
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hunter's laptop was russian disinformation too...whoops...not any more apparently
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nothing like the press doing their jobs.
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03-18-2022, 06:35 AM
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Jared Kushner helped Saudi Arabia cover up the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
He covered up the truth about Covid, seized PPE to stockpile, & took millions in PPP loans.
Saudi Arabia gave him $2B.
But do go on about how Hunter Biden has the corruption problem.
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03-18-2022, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Jared Kushner helped Saudi Arabia cover up the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
He covered up the truth about Covid, seized PPE to stockpile, & took millions in PPP loans.
Saudi Arabia gave him $2B.
But do go on about how Hunter Biden has the corruption problem.
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you'd think the biden administration who arrest him.... |
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03-18-2022, 06:50 AM
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you'd think the biden administration who arrest him....
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You have the same idea of how that works as Tweety
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03-18-2022, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Your first sentence seems to suggest that Biden didn't actually threaten to withhold aid, and that I'm engaging in conspiracy theories. Then your next sentence seems to suggest that everyone knows Biden threatened to withhold aid.
You asked if I could say why he threatened to withhold aid. Here's my post you responded to:
"did biden threaten to withhold aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?"
WDMSO, when you read that sentence, it's not crystal clear why I believe Biden threatened to withhold aid? No it isn’t
You might want to get an MRI.
Biden threatened to withhold national aid to Ukraine, unless they fired a prosecutor we claim was corrupt. It's worth withholding aid to a nation to get rid of one corrupt lawyer?
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the international community supported the move to remove . as you say just a lawyer! Which he wasn’t ! He was Prosecutor General of Ukraine or their AG WHO wasn’t prosecuting corruption cases
Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.
Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.
Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption
keep trying to suggest what Biden did and Trump did aka withholding aid from Ukraine .
Are the same. And if that’s not the point your trying to make . Who knows what it is
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03-18-2022, 07:11 AM
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nobody believes Polifact(?) anymore....
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You don’t believe anything .
Unless it’s fictional
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