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Old 03-23-2010, 04:22 PM   #1
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Say No To Socialism

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal power utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the Nation Aeronautics and Space Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshall's inspection, and which has not plundered all of its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log into the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advance Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD and because the government cant do anything right.

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Old 03-23-2010, 04:36 PM   #2
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I know your post is in jest, but how are you gonna feel when your business starts getting taxed because of the "new and improved" government health care program?
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:07 PM   #3
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I know your post is in jest, but how are you gonna feel when your business starts getting taxed because of the "new and improved" government health care program?
Well according to the FCC regulated HD channels, supplied to me by the FCC approved cable provider, at their approved profit level, we're screwed
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:50 PM   #4
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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal power utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the Nation Aeronautics and Space Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshall's inspection, and which has not plundered all of its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log into the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advance Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD and because the government cant do anything right.

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Socialism is not bad because the government can't do anything right. The Government does things right, in our constitutionally limited form of government, when it does what it is mandated to do, by the Constitution, by the will of the people. That does not mean it always performs its function well, or as well as it should. Most of what you cite, not all, is within its different local, state and federal constitutionally proper role.

When people bitch and moan about creeping Socialism, it's usually about some unconstitional government intervention into the private sector. And when we complain about such intrusion, it's usually with a view to and fear of older hard forms of socialism such as Marxism, or Communism. These forms have fairly well failed, so they have mutated and evolved toward what has always worked, some form of the "free market", but in a mixed, socialist image--even going so far as State Capitalism. It's all a complex and constantly changing attempt to "correct" the inequities of the free market. The problem that socialism has not been able to fix, is how to incorporate human nature into its collectivist perspective. It needs some form of ideal automaton to people its social structure. It has no room for personality, for the constantly evolving variation in human perspective and it certainly has no mechanism to motivate, except by fear. What it envisions as the good village, is, ultimately, boring.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:07 PM   #5
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Rep. Dingell: It’s taken a long time to ‘control the people’
Peter Barry Chowka

Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), the Dean of the House of Representatives for being the longest serving member of the body (he was first elected in 1955, succeeding his father, Rep. John Dingell, Sr.), made an amazing admission during a live telephone interview with Detroit WJR News/Talk 760 radio talk show host Paul W. Smith on Smith's show Monday morning, March 22, 2010. The night before, Dingell had been a featured speaker at the Democrat Congressional leadership victory press conference after Obamacare passed the House.


In response to a question posed by Smith, Dingell said:


"Let me remind you this [Americans allegedly dying because of lack of universal health care] has been going on for years. We are bringing it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when you're going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people."
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:12 PM   #6
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Rep. Dingell: It’s taken a long time to ‘control the people’
Peter Barry Chowka

Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), the Dean of the House of Representatives for being the longest serving member of the body (he was first elected in 1955, succeeding his father, Rep. John Dingell, Sr.), made an amazing admission during a live telephone interview with Detroit WJR News/Talk 760 radio talk show host Paul W. Smith on Smith's show Monday morning, March 22, 2010. The night before, Dingell had been a featured speaker at the Democrat Congressional leadership victory press conference after Obamacare passed the House.


In response to a question posed by Smith, Dingell said:


"Let me remind you this [Americans allegedly dying because of lack of universal health care] has been going on for years. We are bringing it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when you're going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people."
That doesn't appear to be taken out of context at all.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:13 AM   #7
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That doesn't appear to be taken out of context at all.
Joe Biden..."we're going to control the insurance companies"

I'm sure they didn't REALLY mean "control" people or companies...right?
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:16 AM   #8
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and we now have a "pay czar" to limit financial services pay.
Johnny, did you notice that not one of the things listed in your post LIMITS or TAKES AWAY from the "haves" and gives to the "have nots"???
That is socialism. And thats where we are headed.

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and they've taken "control" over all student loans in this legislation
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:58 AM   #10
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guys, you should be happy about this health insurance thing. Now you can get free Zoloft and Paxil. Surely you need it
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And Spence's fertility treatments will be covered. He's thrilled that he can now bear Joe Biden's love child.
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I think plugs are covered as long as you can get a prescription and claim you fish to relieve stress.
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:58 AM   #13
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I think plugs are covered as long as you can get a prescription and claim you fish to relieve stress.
I think I know a doctor that will prescribe that! Why not claim the boat as a medical device used to relieve stress?

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and we now have a "pay czar" to limit financial services pay.
The real intent of the pay czar is to ensure compensation structures are in alignment with public interests, espeically for banks that have taken public funds. In some extreme instances this may mean limits to pay, but the real focus is to make sure people in the finance industry can't compensate themselves with quick cash when they're making high-risk bets with other people's money behind the curtian.

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:03 PM   #15
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but the real focus is to make sure people in the finance industry can't compensate themselves with quick cash when they're making high-risk bets with other people's money behind the curtian.

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kinda like the democrats did to get the votes they needed to pass their healthcare scam
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