2011/2012 English Premier League - Page 3 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

numbskull · 12-30-2011, 03:45 PM

ManU's offense is broke without Anderson (hard to believe but true I think). He plays a more forward midfield role than their other inside mids, including Jones. Anderson seems to get Rooney the ball in better positions in particular, but he also interconnects all their attacking players better than their other players.
In spite of a misfiring offense, Man U has kept up there with ManC but it has not been easy. Ferguson must see that he needs another player with Anderson's skill set and I suspect he will buy one this month.....maybe this Danish kid at Ajax (though the little I've seen of him has not wowed me).

Clogston29 · 12-31-2011, 04:17 PM

Tough day for the top clubs.

Anderson looked rusty, but at least he's getting fit. They deserved to lose just for letting Nani on the field with that hair cut. Need vidic back. Relying on berbatov to mark samba was not pretty.
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numbskull · 01-02-2012, 10:02 AM

And ManC chokes against Sunderland, amazing. Ferguson got his Bday present after all. Interesting time of year in the EPL. Seems like the best teams and weakest teams both hit the wall. The good teams fatigue and hope to get by coasting a little, the newly promoted teams start to run out of the adrenalin that kept them competitive. The mid table teams start to get their act together and that costs the best and weakest teams both.
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luds · 01-02-2012, 10:55 AM

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And ManC chokes against Sunderland, amazing. Ferguson got his Bday present after all. Interesting time of year in the EPL. Seems like the best teams and weakest teams both hit the wall. The good teams fatigue and hope to get by coasting a little, the newly promoted teams start to run out of the adrenalin that kept them competitive. The mid table teams start to get their act together and that costs the best and weakest teams both.
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That sums it up pretty well.

Don't know if you guys caught the Man Cit/Sunderland match but the ending was amazing. Sunderland's goal was literally in the last 5 seconds of play. To be fair the goal should have been flagged for off sides but it was still awesome to see them win in the last moment of the game.

american spirit · 01-04-2012, 09:27 PM

just watched arsenal vs. fulham. good match up, good game. gary cahill heading to chelsea after his team gets relegated??

so are we doing the s-b epl fantasy??

Clogston29 · 01-05-2012, 07:26 AM

bad performance by united. wow. offense broke without anderson, as numbskull said, and defence broke without vidic. tottenham is right on their heels for the no. 2 spot.

numbskull · 01-05-2012, 08:51 PM

Fear not. ManC will miss Yaya Toure even more. He is the motor of that team.
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Clogston29 · 01-08-2012, 08:00 AM

Resigning schoals seams a bit desperate to me.
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luds · 01-08-2012, 05:23 PM

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Resigning schoals seams a bit desperate to me.
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They are desperate. Happy to see the win today but I didn't feel comfortable even after Company's red card. I hope Sir Alex has something up his sleeve for this transfer window.

Clogston29 · 01-09-2012, 07:18 AM

suposedly he's after two german guys, can't remember their names, and maybe christian eriksen, which looks the best of the rumors to me. Kompany's 4 match suspension should help a bit, along with City losing a few guys to the African nations cup (both of which are also screwing me in fantasy selections). There's a big opportunity for Tottenham right now as thet still have a game in hand and are pretty healthy, especially since they'll get City during Kompany's suspension. I thought the card was a joke personally, but with today's rules, I can't see the card being recinded.

luds · 01-09-2012, 09:23 AM

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suposedly he's after two german guys, can't remember their names, and maybe christian eriksen, which looks the best of the rumors to me. Kompany's 4 match suspension should help a bit, along with City losing a few guys to the African nations cup (both of which are also screwing me in fantasy selections). There's a big opportunity for Tottenham right now as thet still have a game in hand and are pretty healthy, especially since they'll get City during Kompany's suspension. I thought the card was a joke personally, but with today's rules, I can't see the card being recinded.

Agree on the card. Thankfully it didn't completely ruin the game.. Did he tweet something about it after the game that led to the suspension or something?
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Clogston29 · 01-09-2012, 10:38 AM

automatic for second red of season. one game for first. It will end up being 2 carling cup and 2 league games if they don't appeal. If they appeal and the FA decides the appeal to be frivilous, they will add another game. supposedly mancini wants to get a center half on transfer to replace him temporarily, but City can't until they complete some transfers out due to FIFA fair play regs. rumors of ballotelli moving on, but i don't see that. Tevez to milan seams likely though.

Chunkah · 01-21-2012, 02:36 PM

Liverpool headed for 10th.

luds · 01-22-2012, 07:32 PM

Still bummin after the Spurs V City result today.
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american spirit · 01-22-2012, 08:09 PM

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Still bummin after the Spurs V City result today.
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yup. terrible. will spurs get another chance at them? balotelli needs to be annihilated by someone during his next game.

numbskull · 01-23-2012, 06:47 PM

Balotelli is great, such a perfect villain. I'm kinda liking Man City, nice to see them rocking the boat a bit, the league needs it. This Tevez soap opera is amusing, too. Silva is an amazing player to watch.

Chelsea is a sorry team but gotta love Norwich City. Quite the coaching job there.

Tottenham looks weaker with Bale inside. Other than his goal, he seemed invisible against ManC.

Arsenal was foolish to send Frimpong out on loan. He looked fantastic for Wolves until he took the boot to the head. Arshavin is useless. This Ox-Chamberlian kid was great.

Liverpool has to be the biggest disappointment of the season. At the end of last season they were playing the best soccer in the EPL. Too bad they are run by idiots. Carroll has been a disaster, Henderson, Downing, and Adams are not good enough, they were plain stupid to give up Merileis, and this young Spanish defender they sent away to Norwich is looking like a steal. Losing Lucas hurt, but so has getting Gerard back. As incredible player as he is, his one man team all over the field style seems to create enough uncertainty in his teammates that their play slows and they underperform.

Clogston29 · 01-25-2012, 08:31 AM

scott - no more spurs v. city games, city beat them twice. they're hamstrung in those games because city still owns adabyor (they loaned him to someone, who then loaned him to spurs I think), so he can't play against them. but city is just plain better overall. They did not have either of the Torre brothers on Sunday.

a four game ban is under consideration for Balotelli for the stomp, even though the match official didn't call anything. given the FA's recent history of dealing with non-england internations, it would not surprise me. That could be his ticket out of england since the manager and balotelli's agent both seam to be leaning toward a transfer to Italy anyway.

it almost seams that liverpool has the same management as the red sox the way they're going with bad big money signings and locker room turmoil. oh wait, they do. now they want demba ba? Newcastle just brought in a young up and coming striker so maybe its time for them to sell high on Ba in Liverpool with overpay. Liverpool could end up being Newcastle's sponsor on the road back to the being an elite side by financing all of their signings.

Chunkah · 01-25-2012, 07:19 PM

Liverpool looked great today against Man S h i t t y! Dominated much of the game and got a much deserved draw in the end. Amazingly Gerrards presence in the lineup didn't seem to confuse and befuddle his teamates....on to Wembley!
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numbskull · 02-02-2012, 02:05 PM

ManC looked limp against Everton. Awful movement off the ball, few people other than Silva trying to make something happen. They seemed unable to rise the occasion, everyone looking to someone else to save the game. Content to outclass the other team rather than outplay them. Hardly the stuff of champions.

Can say the same for Arsenal vs Bolton. Chamberlain looked special, but Arteta and Song don't have any push in the center and Ramsey, try as he might, is more a box to box guy than a playmaker. Loads of possession but no real idea what to do with it.

spence · 02-05-2012, 08:31 AM

Man U v Chelsea this morning on Fox. Should be a great match, especially considering the standings.
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luds · 02-05-2012, 09:45 AM

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Man U v Chelsea this morning on Fox. Should be a great match, especially considering the standings.
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Funny how they are hyping it considering Chelsea's unsuccessful season but with City's win yesterday it's definitely a big game for united. Hoping for a big game from Rooney and a united win but at some point I would like to see Torres wake up and start scoring.....not sure that will ever happen though.

numbskull · 02-08-2012, 03:53 PM

ManU and Chelsea was a fun spectacle......although why AVB didn't shut up shop and call it a day when up 3-0 with 30" to play is beyond me. Was Mikel injured or something? I can't imagine even Man U breaking down a midfield with Mikel, Essien, and this exBarca kid in it.

The Liverpool-Tottenham game was interesting as well. Tottenham is in the running for the league title, but seemingly made little effort to win the game. Not a good sign for them. Liverpool, on the other hand played like demons, but generated very little worth mention.
Now that Capello has quit, Redknap will be very tempted to take the England job. Will he walk out on Tottenham? Nervous times for Tottenham fans I'd imagine.

Clogston29 · 02-08-2012, 04:48 PM

mikel has a hamstring.

liverpool can really defend. how much offense they can generate is a question though.

tottenham hasn't shown an ability to beat the big boys, and until they do that, i don't see them as a serious contender. although, nobody really looks all that great this year, so if there was ever an opening for them, its now.

i'm really hoping that newcastle can go on a run with Ba and Cisse up front and grab the 4 spot from Chelsea. I'd love to see Chelsea and Arsenal out of the top four.

Chunkah · 02-08-2012, 05:36 PM

I think Harry will get the England job. Seems a much better fit than Capello ever was.

mosholu · 02-09-2012, 12:10 AM

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I think Harry will get the England job. Seems a much better fit than Capello ever was.

I think Harry would be much better off staying at Spurs. The England job is a thankless one and he has seen many of his colleagues who have taken the position go down in flames. He has a good side at Spurs club (that supported him in his latest tax troubles) that are likely to wind up in the CL next year compared to an England squad in need of a massive overhaul. I think we will use the England job as leverage to get more funds from the Spurs board to be able to sign Bale and Modric to long term deals and buy a new striker.

Chunkah · 02-09-2012, 11:17 AM

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I think Harry would be much better off staying at Spurs. The England job is a thankless one and he has seen many of his colleagues who have taken the position go down in flames. He has a good side at Spurs club (that supported him in his latest tax troubles) that are likely to wind up in the CL next year compared to an England squad in need of a massive overhaul. I think we will use the England job as leverage to get more funds from the Spurs board to be able to sign Bale and Modric to long term deals and buy a new striker.

I agree that would appear to be the smart move, but I think the allure of rebuilding the national team may be too much for him to pass up. I love the soap opera that is the English National Team! What a mess.

numbskull · 02-09-2012, 12:59 PM

England coach is a lot less work than Tottenham coach, and likely pays better. Nice pre-retirement job. He'd probably get a 4-6 year contract. I think he will jump all over it if offered. It isn't like Harry hasn't walked out on other teams before in midseason. Priceless how AVB is pushing him for the job.

Clogston29 · 02-09-2012, 01:28 PM

maybe that will be mourinho's window to get back to the EPL as rumored.

it would be interesting to see how differently the brits treat one of their own as coach than a foreigner (look at how differently suarez and terry were treated for a similar offense).

Chunkah · 02-09-2012, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Clogston29;919817]maybe that will be mourinho's window to get back to the EPL as rumored.QUOTE]

I always figured the special one holding out for Sir Alex to retire...Spurs are a step down for him. Don't forget Rafa Benitez needs work too and Tottenham might be the perfect place for him.

mosholu · 02-09-2012, 05:11 PM

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maybe that will be mourinho's window to get back to the EPL as rumored.

it would be interesting to see how differently the brits treat one of their own as coach than a foreigner (look at how differently suarez and terry were treated for a similar offense).

Well there are reasons why Suarez and Terry cases are being treated differently. In Terry's case the police were informed about the alleged conduct by a fan which prompted them to be involved in the investigation which has led to the current charges. Once the police were involved the FA decided to not conduct their own investigation concurrent with the police one. If Terry is convicted the FA will then suspend him.

The Brits have been very hostile to Brit coaches that have not had success. Look at Gordon Taylor and Bobby Robson both had a torrid time while in charge.