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Old 03-16-2018, 11:13 AM   #91
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In an exchange with a member of a Russian delegation, McMaster said "with the FBI indictment, the evidence is now incontrovertible" of Russia's cyber disruption and meddling.

Trump wasn't happy
And now it looks like McMaster is next on the chopping block.

I'm becoming increasingly concerned Trump is sick of people with any competency and is going to stuff the White House with yes men who will support a war so Trump can show the world how tough he is.
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Well he certainly is setting things up so Article 25 is highly improbable
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Old 03-16-2018, 03:48 PM   #93
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Trump administration finally announces Russia sanctions over election meddling


the only person missing for this announcement was The POTUS himself

He has made no public statements against the Russians Verbally or via twitter

I guess you need to be an American or in his administration get attacked by Trump verbally or via twitter
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:06 PM   #94
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I guess you need to be an American or in his administration get attacked by Trump verbally or via twitter
You do have an insatiable passion for guessing.
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:35 PM   #95
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Trump administration finally announces Russia sanctions over election meddling


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The Trump White House is starting to remind me of the movie Being There and what would have happened if Peter Sellers was elected president.
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You do have an insatiable passion for guessing.
So you have have seen Trump publicly admonish Russia or Putin on theses issues ? in any format

oh snap look another tweet
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!I would



I guess this didn't happen either

The White House has denied that Trump ever had an affair with Daniels.


President Donald Trump seek $20 million in damages...based on an agreement that he and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and knew nothing about?

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I think Hillary fell down some stairs again....
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:38 AM   #98
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So you have have seen Trump publicly admonish Russia or Putin on theses issues ? in any format

oh snap look another tweet
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!I would



I guess this didn't happen either

The White House has denied that Trump ever had an affair with Daniels.


President Donald Trump seek $20 million in damages...based on an agreement that he and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and knew nothing about?
Keep on guessin'
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They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.

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Old 03-17-2018, 09:16 AM   #100
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They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.
"Power corrupts;" That's why we had better not give up our constitutional protections against unlimited government--because "absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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oh snap look another tweet
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!I would
Unless the inspector has something really bad on McCabe that hasn't been revealed this really looks ugly. Lifelong Republican, top career agent, key witness for an obstruction case. You do the math...

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President Donald Trump seek $20 million in damages...based on an agreement that he and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and knew nothing about?
Funny thing is with this lawsuit Trump admitted he was the pseudonym on the non-disclosure.
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They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.
I think that's a pretty negative view of a lot of people trying to do good things. Clinton may be a bad candidate and a little aloof but I think she has good intentions. Bernie isn't corrupt, just a little wacky.

Trump? Perhaps the most corrupt POTUS we've ever had.

I don't buy the everybody does it defense either...at least the GOP is a lot better at it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/u...imes&smtyp=cur
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Unless the inspector has something really bad on McCabe that hasn't been revealed this really looks ugly. Lifelong Republican, top career agent, key witness for an obstruction case. You do the math...

More of your typical insinuation.

Funny thing is with this lawsuit Trump admitted he was the pseudonym on the non-disclosure.
Trump never tells the truth.
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:06 PM   #104
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Clinton may be a bad candidate and a little aloof but I think she has good intentions.
apparently you've fallen down some stairs recently too...
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Unless the inspector has something really bad on McCabe that hasn't been revealed this really looks ugly. Lifelong Republican, top career agent, key witness for an obstruction case. You do the math...
"The odds are high that an indictment will be forthcoming for Andrew McCabe. As the ever alert Sundance of Conservative Treehouse points out, the statement on his firing by A.G. Sessions specifically noted that he "lacked candor" (the FBI's expression for lying) "under oath."

After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department's Office of the Inspector General (OIG) provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR).

The FBI's OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions."
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"The odds are high that an indictment will be forthcoming for Andrew McCabe. As the ever alert Sundance of Conservative Treehouse points out, the statement on his firing by A.G. Sessions specifically noted that he "lacked candor" (the FBI's expression for lying) "under oath."

After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department's Office of the Inspector General (OIG) provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR).

The FBI's OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions."
So the undermining of the FBI is being done by the FBI.
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I think Hillary fell down some stairs again....
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because...the alternative is still much ...much ...worse
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It's just the flip side of 8 years of "Bush's Fault"

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"The odds are high that an indictment will be forthcoming for Andrew McCabe. As the ever alert Sundance of Conservative Treehouse points out, the statement on his firing by A.G. Sessions specifically noted that he "lacked candor" (the FBI's expression for lying) "under oath."
If they had evidence that he should be prosecuted why wouldn't they just indict him instead of firing him?

Sessions didn't have to fire him, he was just protecting his job and some argue he did it to keep the Muller investigation going.
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If they had evidence that he should be prosecuted why wouldn't they just indict him instead of firing him?

because first things first.... "The FBI's OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. "


Sessions didn't have to fire him, he was just protecting his job and some argue he did it to keep the Muller investigation going.
that is you speculating...which...well....
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It's just the flip side of 8 years of "Bush's Fault"
No it is not. Bad analogy. Bush was president and the impact of his policies were clearly in effect and are still being dealt with. It is the flip side of bringing up McCain every time someone brought up factual information about Obama. Oh, right... that didn't really happen.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added...does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!

Shocking not really just another tweet log on the obstruction fire
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back to back incoherent posts...that's pretty good!
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No it is not. Bad analogy. Bush was president and the impact of his policies were clearly in effect and are still being dealt with. It is the flip side of bringing up McCain every time someone brought up factual information about Obama. Oh, right... that didn't really happen.

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back to back incoherent posts...that's pretty good!
Your inability to understand a post does not indicate the post was incoherent.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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I don't buy the everybody does it defense either...at least the GOP is a lot better at it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/u...imes&smtyp=cur
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Your inability to understand a post does not indicate the post was incoherent.
"Libonics"
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Your inability to understand a post does not indicate the post was incoherent.

he's been in drive by mode for a while .. and not up to speed on Trumps twitter feed..
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these are the top comments from breitbart about Putins re election and we shouldn't be surprised why they do care Trump loves Putin

I do not care what the corrupt Western Media says. Putin is a good man whose country has embraced traditional morality and national pride. There are not many LGBT feminist, or abrasive minorities that plague Russia. Maybe we could learn something from them.

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Nabukuduriuzhur superk 99 • 18 hours ago
Plus his no-tolerance for terrorism.

By contrast, the AP actively supports the Chechens, even after they slaughtered hundreds of school children and dozens of people in a theater, plus doing terrorist acts throughout Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and other nations.

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ArgEntum Nabukuduriuzhur • 16 hours ago
Russia used to arrest and sentence to prison ISIS fighters returning from Middle East
Russia does not accept any Muslim invaders masquerading as refugees

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ricocat1 ArgEntum • 13 hours ago
Vladimir Putin is fighting for Russia just as Donald Trump is fighting for the United States. Neither one is a wimpy Muslim-appeasing globalist.

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