Memo is out

[spence]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

So 4 fisa judges all were hood winked into approving not once, but renewed surveillance; you must be drinking the Trump coolaid. I'd suggest you go easy on that stuff, it will make you mad, crazy and prone to watching eight hours of TV while tweeting nonsense during commercials.

Jim doesn't realize the FISA application was like 60 pages long. It was all about Steele...he's drunk.

[scottw]

most interesting memo I've read today....

The DNC is reportedly 'dead broke.'

The Democratic National Committee had a rough 2017, plagued by leadership troubles, internal squabbling, and unflattering reports. To top it off, the party ended the year "dead broke," says The Intercept's Ryan Grim.

The Democratic Party is carrying more than $6 million in debt, according to year-end filings — and has just $6.5 million in the bank. Do the math, and the party is working with just over $400,000 overall. Meanwhile, the Republicans are swimming in pools of money. The Republican National Committee had raised $132 million by the end of 2017 — about twice as much as the DNC — and entered 2018 with almost $40 million to spare, with not a penny of debt.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

most interesting memo I've read today....

The DNC is reportedly 'dead broke.'

The Democratic National Committee had a rough 2017, plagued by leadership troubles, internal squabbling, and unflattering reports. To top it off, the party ended the year "dead broke," says The Intercept's Ryan Grim.

The Democratic Party is carrying more than $6 million in debt, according to year-end filings — and has just $6.5 million in the bank. Do the math, and the party is working with just over $400,000 overall. Meanwhile, the Republicans are swimming in pools of money. The Republican National Committee had raised $132 million by the end of 2017 — about twice as much as the DNC — and entered 2018 with almost $40 million to spare, with not a penny of debt.

And if you believe in a multi party system that should really scare you.
In the past 50 years the top 10% has gained more and more of the wealth and is getting closer to being able to just buy elections. Look at how much the Kochs have raised for the next election cycle. We are not headed for a good place, with a functioning democracy.

[scottw]

it's sad that the democrats do not appear to be benefitting from the Trump Boom.....you'd they could fund raise off of all of this

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And if you believe in a multi party system that should really scare you.
In the past 50 years the top 10% has gained more and more of the wealth and is getting closer to being able to just buy elections. Look at how much the Kochs have raised for the next election cycle. We are not headed for a good place, with a functioning democracy.

don't forget the Russians

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

In the past 50 years the top 10% has gained more and more of the wealth and is getting closer to being able to just buy elections. Look at how much the Kochs have raised for the next election cycle. We are not headed for a good place, with a functioning democracy.

"the top 10% has gained more and more of the wealth "

Can't stop that. Would you pass a law saying that once you have a certain net worth, that you can no longer work or invest in the stock market?

"getting closer to being able to just buy elections."

Hilary far outspent Trump last year.

"Look at how much the Kochs have raised for the next election cycle."

How come everyone is concerned about how much the Kochs raise for the GOP, but no one cares how much the labor unions raise for democrats? I hear what you are saying on this, and I would support serious campaign finance reform. But it's also scary that the Koch brothers, who as far as I know have never done anything wrong, are routinely demonized on the floor of Congress by democrats. Would you want your elected officials attacking you like that?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim doesn't realize the FISA application was like 60 pages long. It was all about Steele...he's drunk.

The memo says that it's likely that they would not have sought FISA surveillance, if not for what was in the Steele document, does it not? IF that's true (and maybe it's not), it doesn't matter what else was in there.

I'm sober. You're utterly and completely unable to process that which doesn't serve your agenda.