Buh-Biden

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

You agree that he's the first mainstream black man to possess those qualities?

With real Presidential ambition and the media spotlight?

If he's not the first he'd be among select company. Help me out by naming a few.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

With real Presidential ambition and the media spotlight?

If he's not the first he'd be among select company. Help me out by naming a few.

-spence

I didn't see the qualifiers of "media spotlight", and "real presidential ambition" in Joes quote and neither did anyone else. I do agree with his overall statement but the word "first" in my mind has really opened him up to attacks from both sides. And Bronko's right, any candidate that won 11 primaries is mainstream whether we'd like to admit or not. Jesse Jackson and Shirley Chisolm are and were considered, bright, articulate and clean by a huge number of Americans. Maybe not by your's or my standards but we're only one vote each. Maybe he meant "one of the first".

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I didn't see the qualifiers of "media spotlight", and "real presidential ambition" in Joes quote and neither did anyone else. I do agree with his overall statement but the word "first" in my mind has really opened him up to attacks from both sides.

He didn't use those qualifers but wasn't he talking about presidential candidates and not African American men in general (unless I'm missing your point)?

It was all his opinion so he obviously thought Jesse and Shirley weren't viable, mainstream candidates.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by PaulS

He didn't use those qualifers but wasn't he talking about presidential candidates and not African American men in general (unless I'm missing your point)?

It was all his opinion so he obviously thought Jesse and Shirley weren't viable, mainstream candidates.

Yep, Your right but my point is he left himself open to some very broad interpretation of his comment and as we've already seen both sides are running with it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Yep, Your right but my point is he left himself open to some very broad interpretation of his comment and as we've already seen both sides are running with it.

Fair enough - Its a new world with the net and youtube and anyone who doesn't adjust accordingly is going to be in trouble.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Yep, Your right but my point is he left himself open to some very broad interpretation of his comment and as we've already seen both sides are running with it.

That's just the information manipulation age we now live in. Biden thinks and speaks off of the cuff, which can certianly be dangerous.

But in the end the people will decide, and his foreign policy expertise might just in the end make him a fine decider.

-spence

[gone fishin]

Another one for the Political forum

[NaCl H2O]

This just in... Al Sharpton takes a bath every day.

[Bronko]

As fate would have it he is scheduled to be on the Daily Show with John Stewart tonight. I wonder if he cancels. If he goes on, I am sure Stewart will throw a few cute little jabs at him, then they'll let him lick his wounds a bit as they both bash the President. Textobook slip-up triage.