Obama's Healthcare

[scottw]

your initial question regarding the first post was....

Originally Posted by zimmy

Any chance you can specify how the health care bill caused the change in price? Most of the bill doesn't even start to go into effect until after 2013. This I understand how if one doesn't like Obama, you could get riled up by this crap, but come on... is it even honest? Sounds like a chain email, actually, or some nutso right wing talk show

there's no shortage of these

Coverage for the new plan year beginning August 1, 2011-July 31, 2012 will be offered through United Health Care. More information will be posted on this website by Mid May. The Annual rate for the Voluntary plan will be $1768.

Drake’s Student Health Insurance
for the Coverage Period of August 1, 2012-July 31, 2013

NOTICE: As of March 16, 2012, new federal Health Care Reform regulations were passed. These changes will result in substantial student health insurance policy changes beginning August 1, 2012. The premium will increase to include the required increased minimum insurance coverage levels.

[Fly Rod]

Zimmy:

college healthcare cost will vary,some will pay a small increase and others will cost a lot more depending on type of coverage.

basically U have been wrong!!! U probably want to cover yourself by saying U R half right, "NA NA....

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Zimmy:

college healthcare cost will vary,some will pay a small increase and others will cost a lot more depending on type of coverage.

basically U have been wrong!!! U probably want to cover yourself by saying U R half right, "NA NA....

Actually, not one thing posted in this entire thread verifies that the contents of the article in your first post are accurate. I have been wrong plenty of times in these discussions. I will happily admit it that my suspicions that the doubled price is not solely because of the health law, if I am wrong . So basically, I may be wrong, but neither u nor anyone else has demonstrated it. Most of what has been posted backs that up. A few indicate that prices may double for some people, but the only one that is specific (William Patterson) shows that the school did it partially to improve coverage, not that they had no choice because of the law. Please, lets stick with facts. That is all I ever requested from the start.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Actually, not one thing posted in this entire thread verifies that the contents of the article in your first post are accurate.

“Due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA – commonly known as health care reform), the cost of student health insurance has doubled,” read the letter from the college’s human resources department....

maybe you should contact the college’s human resources department for clarification, verification, substantiation,

New healthcare reform legislation mandates that 2012-2013 student insurance plans must provide increased coverage. These benefit requirements are expected to increase the cost of the student insurance plan. Premiums are anticipated to be between $1,400-$1,800 per year.

I checked(that's up from $654)

how many percent is that zimmy?

your latest schtick where you are really smart and informed and intelligent and everyone else is ignorant, misinformed and willing victims of lies and propoganda and chain emails isn't going so well

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

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your latest schtick where you are really smart and informed and intelligent and everyone else is ignorant, misinformed and willing victims of lies and propoganda and chain emails isn't going so well

Bye bye Scott. My mistake. Took you less than 24 hour to show again what a classy guy you are. Why don't you call them and you can tell everyone else what you find. I can see what they write.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Bye bye Scott. My mistake. Took you less than 24 hour to show again what a classy guy you are. Why don't you call them and you can tell everyone else what you find. I can see what they write.

[QUOTES=zimmy]

"the school claiming the law doubled the cost for the kid is almost certainly a distortion or, worse yet, a lie."

"Despite the nonsense of some people on here"

"Never mind... you apparently don't get the question"

"This thread is about a bs report that a kids health care costs doubled because of the health care law"

"What a giant piece of simple minded garbage"

"Typical moronic scare tactic based not on the truth or reality, but on what gets people fired up. Almost not worth justifying with a response"


"You say moronic statements about me and Obama "

"a law that hasn't gone into full effect doubled a poor Christian boys health care costs"

"Why do they have to lie and distort everything?"

"Did anyone ever learn the basics of data analysis"

"but someone please find an actual connection between the Fox Spews report and the law"

"I wonder how many of these basic questions fox news asked? Almost certainly, none. Better to run with it since it fits the mantra of farse and unbalanced news."

"I hear common sense tossed around all the time in this forum. Common sense says that one should not fall for the bs that a law that hasn't taken affect is the reason that some random persons health care costs doubled."

"Common sense isn't very common, but it is sure brought up all the time."

"So then the whole premise of the original post is invalid."

"I wasn't even 100% sure it was since the details of it are nonexistent, but I am glad to find out that I was correct."

"I think I will call up one of the national right wing wack jobs and tell them "as a youngish aged Christian, my health care costs have gone up 300% since the law passed, and the moon slowed its orbit around the Earth." That'll get em going."

"This is some funny shizzle."

"This isn't more right wing "my perception must be reality" ?"

"Or is the spin going to be "Obama said it will go down, but it is going up."? Where did you get your info? Did you investigate the details?"

"I understand how if one doesn't like Obama, you could get riled up by this crap, but come on... is it even honest?"

"Sounds like a chain email, actually, or some nutso right wing talk show "

"That and most commentators on there say a bunch of crap that isn't really true, but many in those masses who are listening lack the gray matter to actually analyze multiple sources of information and form valid conclusions"

"How about we elect idiots who want to run things the way they were run 6 years ago? Now that is genius."

"Here it is again? Is this sandman's own words or is this some chain thing he is passing off as his own?"

stay classy GENIUS

[Jim in CT]

Scott, your work is done here, you gutted him like a fish, you competely eviscerated him.

We can argue all we want about whether one particular policy saw an increase of 80% or 100%, and we can argue about exactly how much of that is due to Obamacare.

Bottom line...Obama thought he could significantly increase the number of insured folks, and significantly increase the coverage for all, while REDUCING costs, with the wave of his hand. His assumption reveals a breathtaking lack of knowledge of basic economics.

We need somebody with some basic understanding of what is possible, and what isn't.