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08-12-2007, 11:25 AM
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Ok, now I'm really to shoot myself
So last week I take the entire week off to dig out the end of my bluestone driveway (compacted by 30 years of cars) and lay antique (as in really old and really irregular) cobble stones on end and on a twisting slope.
Cut out the ratty asphalt road and put in my own 10' X 16" patch using 600 pounds of Perma-Patch which worked really well. I had to set the stones back a foot so my neighbor wouldn't catch them when he plows in the winter. The transition from road to driveway now is so smooth 
My wife hates it and has told all her friends it looks terrible. She somehow thinks asphalt was the wrong product to use to transition from cobblestone to an asphalt road.
This could be the end of things...I just can't take this any more.
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08-12-2007, 11:34 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Just a thought, level out the tops of the cobble stone with stone dust giving it a smoother appearance. It will all blend in together better.
The new asphalt will turn grey in a short time and not look as stark.
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08-12-2007, 11:39 AM
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There's a ton of dust already there. These are just old stones and very few of them are flat. That heavy rain did soak everything in really well...but I need to fill in the few voids that remain. There's a 3" base under the stones.
-spence
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08-12-2007, 11:46 AM
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tear it out your done she'll never be happy. When you tear it out dig it down and tell her your going to bury her in there for better compaction when you fill it up again  |
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08-12-2007, 11:48 AM
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Would that leave a bit void? 
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08-12-2007, 11:57 AM
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The cobblestone asphalt looks like the city streets that are torn up revealing the cobble..
This could be better blended by adding trolley rails.  |
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08-12-2007, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Would that leave a bit void?
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Eventually, yes..........but you'll be outta there by then, I presume 
JK Mrs Spence! |
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08-12-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
This could be better blended by adding trolley rails. |
That's exactly the idea to be honest...make it look very old 
-spence |
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08-12-2007, 12:29 PM
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cool.
Just throwing ideas around, how about adding more cobble stone so that the transition between the asphalt and stone is uneven, giving the appearance that there is more cobblestone under asphalt.
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08-12-2007, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
cool.
Just throwing ideas around, how about adding more cobble stone so that the transition between the asphalt and stone is uneven, giving the appearance that there is more cobblestone under asphalt.
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What are you taking her side?   
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08-12-2007, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
What are you taking her side?
-spence |
No not me. If your intent is to make it appear old then your project is on target and it looks good. It can be made to appear older by breaking up that uniform transition line between stone asphalt like you would see on the street.
Don't you have a PVC pipe to weld ? |
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08-12-2007, 01:14 PM
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no offence meant Spence
I think your a very gifted mason and or stone worker...
really i do.... but the changes in texture make it look
like hodge podge.... or not really well thought out scabbed on work..
I would call an asphalt company and tar the whole stinkiin driveway
otherwize you'll never hear the END of it.... E V E R !
Now, i know that's totally NOT what you were trying to accomplish Spence......
but ...specifically ....you pissed off the boss lady...
so ask her opinion first... like? would you prefer we tarred over the whole driveway then? let it be her decision... and you won't regret it later...
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08-12-2007, 01:45 PM
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The whole driveway would cost a fortune...not an option...
Why do I even bother 
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08-12-2007, 02:21 PM
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maybe you could have a pink sweater yard sale.... 
i figured that.... or you wouldn't be bustin yer balls.. |
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08-12-2007, 02:30 PM
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My goal was to minimize the visual impact between the cobblestones and road. I had to set the stones back, no option there...I had to cut a line so I could dig out the bed and get a nice thick layer of asphalt, otherwise it would break up. I'm assuming it will lighten over time which it already has a bit.
The road is a freaking mess. I believe it's a real street but the city does not plow it or maintain it. My neighbor has been applying cold patch for the last 25 years, and it's really falling apart.
If anyone has a better idea I'd like to hear it, even though I ain't changing chit 
Seriously, what would it cost to resurface a ratty old road on a 6%+ grade? It's 20 yards from our house to the top of the hill and about 60 yards to do the whole road to my neighbor's house.
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08-12-2007, 02:38 PM
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It's a great look .
If it was me I would run the length of the driveway with a cobble stone boarder.
This is a look that you see at alot of the old estates.
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08-12-2007, 04:15 PM
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I think it looks great Spence! What would your wife like to do??? Women!! Don't know their cobblestones from their ass-phault!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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08-12-2007, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbuck
It's a great look .
If it was me I would run the length of the driveway with a cobble stone boarder.
This is a look that you see at alot of the old estates.
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Yup, it looks great when you run a border and then fill with pea gravel or 1/4 in bluestone.
The reason for the cobblestone apron is to contain the loose stone from the street. |
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08-12-2007, 04:27 PM
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my drive way is starting to break up....
and having given it much thought....
i have decided to use the broken pieces as filler material for
inside some stone walls i'll be building and replace it with
round stone gravel ....so i can hear people pull in...
edging the driveway with cobble stone is a great idea... |
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08-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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Looks mint dude. I see many driveways like yours but a lot of people choose riverbed gravel it's tan in color and the gravel is round textured...they carry it at J&J materials in Seekonk. Line it with 4x7x10 cobbles and your golden. Good job
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08-12-2007, 06:02 PM
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Set up a chair next to it.Fill the cooler with ice and cold beverage of choice and sit there and enjoy it.The feeling of accomplishment for a job well done.One thing I found in this journey is you can't make everyone happy all the time or even some of the time (Some are never happy).I think it looks good man .I'd pull up a chair next to you and crack a beer and admire it!She'll get over it!!
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08-12-2007, 06:04 PM
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Your driveway looks fine - it is the road that looks like a mess. The cobblestone edging would look pretty good all the way up each side of the driveway and along the new cobblestone section. Some additional stone dust may help smooth the transition as well.
Is it a private road, or does the town consider it a private road? My town just had some residents of a private road petition the town to make it a public way - as that was how it was years ago - I believe it passed and now the town has to take care of it. Is there a homeowners association that collects money for plowing and road maintenance? Maybe there should be - before the road needs major repairs and not everyone is in agreement.
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08-12-2007, 06:11 PM
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Dude, LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!!
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08-12-2007, 06:13 PM
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I like it
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I'm going where I'm going... 
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08-12-2007, 06:20 PM
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looks great spence....nice job
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08-12-2007, 06:43 PM
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tear it out your done she'll never be happy. When you tear it out dig it down and tell her your going to bury her in there for better compaction when you fill it up again |
That's organic fill, that's a no-no. |
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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08-12-2007, 08:18 PM
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D'oh
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edging it with cobble all the way back on both sides will solve everything IMO.
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i bent my wookie
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08-12-2007, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Why do I even bother
-spence |
That's why I don't anymore..
Looks good to me Spence  |
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08-13-2007, 06:45 AM
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I have seen dozens of properties on the cape dig up have their driveway to put in this affect with the stones. The problem here isn't your driveway or your stonework...
Is that the street that is all ripped up? If so, when was the last time it was paved? If that road was paved your job would look much nicer. But you did a great job!!!
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08-13-2007, 11:14 AM
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here fishy fishy
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Spence looks really nice.
Once the new bridge goes in, your road will probably get done
I found a good way to get approval from the wife is to have her out there bustin ass along side you. Even if only for an hour or so. It will make her see things in a different light
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