Critical Race Theory

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Texas House committee to investigate school districts’ books on race and sexuality

State Rep. Matt Krause, a candidate for state attorney general, asked school superintendents to confirm whether any books on a list of 850 titles are in their libraries and classrooms.

This is classic example of CRT
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and what is it, when liberals ban To Kill A Mockingbird

There’s plenty of racism in that book. but what liberals somehow miss ( and you really have to be stupid to miss) is that the racists are portrayed as awful. the guy fighting against the racists,,is the hero of the book.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and what is it, when liberals ban To Kill A Mockingbird

There’s plenty of racism in that book. but what liberals somehow miss ( and you really have to be stupid to miss) is that the racists are portrayed as awful. the guy fighting against the racists,,is the hero of the book.
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school board’s decision

following concerns raised by parents over racism.

the main character his actions are not heroic “In reality, Atticus was an unwilling participant not a civil rights crusader;


I agree with you the book is full of racism ,

I don’t think the concern is teaching about racism

Parents concerns of CRT would be legitimate if it was actually happening

And this is the State looking to ban books huge difference

Krause sent a letter on Monday to the Texas Education Agency and superintendents of school districts around the state, asking each official to confirm whether their schools possess any books on his list, along with a detailed accounting of where they are and how much money was spent on them.

but his request mentioned several recent pushes to remove books from libraries and classrooms if they center on issues from transgender identity to critical race theory

https://www.marshall.edu/library/ban...a-mockingbird/

List all the ban attempts of the book not all are liberal areas one was over Challenged at the Brentwood (TN) Middle School because the book contains “profanity” and “contains adult themes such as sexual intercourse, rape, and incest.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

school board’s decision

following concerns raised by parents over racism.

the main character his actions are not heroic “In reality, Atticus was an unwilling participant not a civil rights crusader;


I agree with you the book is full of racism ,

I don’t think the concern is teaching about racism

Parents concerns of CRT would be legitimate if it was actually happening

And this is the State looking to ban books huge difference

Krause sent a letter on Monday to the Texas Education Agency and superintendents of school districts around the state, asking each official to confirm whether their schools possess any books on his list, along with a detailed accounting of where they are and how much money was spent on them.

but his request mentioned several recent pushes to remove books from libraries and classrooms if they center on issues from transgender identity to critical race theory

https://www.marshall.edu/library/ban...a-mockingbird/

List all the ban attempts of the book not all are liberal areas one was over Challenged at the Brentwood (TN) Middle School because the book contains “profanity” and “contains adult themes such as sexual intercourse, rape, and incest.
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oh, atticus finch wasn’t a hero?

have you ever read the book? just because you can post a quote from some moron, doesnt make it true.

i’ve read it ten times. the only reason atticus expressed any concern over taking on racism, was his children. he felt bad that he had to expose them to the ugliness of the world. But he did it anyway. He did it generously, skillfully, and at great risk to himself.

jesus god almighty wayne.

Duh.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, atticus finch wasn’t a hero?

have you ever read the book? just because you can post a quote from some moron, doesnt make it true.

i’ve read it ten times. the only reason atticus expressed any concern over taking on racism, was his children. he felt bad that he had to expose them to the ugliness of the world. But he did it anyway. He did it generously, skillfully, and at great risk to himself.

jesus god almighty wayne.

Duh.
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Now do the Texas rep who has a list of close to a thousand books he wants to ban.

The rapid shift from "why is everyone an easily triggered snowflake participation trophy recipient" to "we gotta ban these books because my senior in high school had nightmares" is more indication that maybe the former was a bad faith operation all along
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, atticus finch wasn’t a hero?

have you ever read the book? just because you can post a quote from some moron, doesnt make it true.

i’ve read it ten times. the only reason atticus expressed any concern over taking on racism, was his children. he felt bad that he had to expose them to the ugliness of the world. But he did it anyway. He did it generously, skillfully, and at great risk to himself.

jesus god almighty wayne.

Duh.
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Yes Jim when I read it I to was told how heroic he was by my teachers and in my limited experience in the real world it made sense .. but at 55 years old I read the same book and see a different reality, Just because I don’t see his as a grand hero in no way am I suggesting he is a villain, because he is neither to me he his a man that is in the middle of 2 different worlds and trying his best to give a man a fair trial Aka his Job
I see many people of history and characters in book in the same light
Age and experience tends to do that..
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yes Jim when I read it I to was told how heroic he was by my teachers and in my limited experience in the real world it made sense .. but at 55 years old I read the same book and see a different reality, Just because I don’t see his as a grand hero in no way am I suggesting he is a villain, because he is neither to me he his a man that is in the middle of 2 different worlds and trying his best to give a man a fair trial Aka his Job
I see many people of history and characters in book in the same light
Age and experience tends to do that..
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you didn't read the book...did you?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yes Jim when I read it I to was told how heroic he was by my teachers and in my limited experience in the real world it made sense .. but at 55 years old I read the same book and see a different reality, Just because I don’t see his as a grand hero in no way am I suggesting he is a villain, because he is neither to me he his a man that is in the middle of 2 different worlds and trying his best to give a man a fair trial Aka his Job
I see many people of history and characters in book in the same light
Age and experience tends to do that..
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My God. I'm not sure you read the book. "The job" was supposed to go to the new lawyer in town but they wanted Atticus to take it because of who he was. He didn't want to be in that spot, he didn't want to expose his kids to bigotry, but knew he couldnt ask his kids to respect him if he didn't do it. He didn't just poke holes the the prosecution's case, he went WAY beyond that and spoke out against the evil historical sin of bigotry. He didn't want to have Bob Ewell spit in his face, didn't want to have to drive out to tell Toms wife that Tom was dead. He never pressured clients to pay, took payments in food if that was all they had, and he was glad to take it.

"His job"? Just doing his job? It was his job, when he heard that the racists were coming to hang Tom, it was his job to go sit on the front steps of the jail all night, to stand up without flinching to an entire mob, to tell them to go home?

You missed THE ENTIRE POINT. Do you recall the scene in the book and in the movie, when all the blacks in the courtroom stood up in respect when he was leaving the courthouse? The black reverend said to his daughter who was sitting on the ground, ":Miss jean louise? Miss Jean Louise? Stand up, your father's passing." She looked around and saw that all the blacks were standing in respect for Atticus. That's a scene that's supposed to give you goosebumps at what a selfless hero he was (often taking payments in food, often letting people take as long as they needed to pay, never hounding them for payment).

Christ almighty, stick to fishing.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My God. I'm not sure you read the book. "The job" was supposed to go to the new lawyer in town but they wanted Atticus to take it because of who he was. He didn't want to be in that spot, he didn't want to expose his kids to bigotry, but knew he couldnt ask his kids to respect him if he didn't do it. He didn't just poke holes the the prosecution's case, he went WAY beyond that and spoke out against the evil historical sin of bigotry. He didn't want to have Bob Ewell spit in his face, didn't want to have to drive out to tell Toms wife that Tom was dead. He never pressured clients to pay, took payments in food if that was all they had, and he was glad to take it.

"His job"? Just doing his job? It was his job, when he heard that the racists were coming to hang Tom, it was his job to go sit on the front steps of the jail all night, to stand up without flinching to an entire mob, to tell them to go home?

You missed THE ENTIRE POINT. Do you recall the scene in the book and in the movie, when all the blacks in the courtroom stood up in respect when he was leaving the courthouse? The black reverend said to his daughter who was sitting on the ground, ":Miss jean louise? Miss Jean Louise? Stand up, your father's passing." She looked around and saw that all the blacks were standing in respect for Atticus. That's a scene that's supposed to give you goosebumps at what a selfless hero he was (often taking payments in food, often letting people take as long as they needed to pay, never hounding them for payment).

Christ almighty, stick to fishing.

You do realize many groups have opposed the book being used in schools for a variety of reasons? Racists segregationists didn’t like it, many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You do realize many groups have opposed the book being used in schools for a variety of reasons? Racists segregationists didn’t like it, many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape.

the most common reason is the racist language, I haven't heard many other reasons.

So with CRT, liberals want to make sure kids are taught what whited did to blacks.

But with To Kill A Mockingbird, for some reason kids aren't capable of handling the historical context, even though it's accurate?

With CRT, the liberal rallying cry is not to whitewash history. Why doesn't that apply to this book?

Do you understand, that in this book, the racists aren't portrayed favorably? They're portrayed as disgusting.

"many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape"

Not "many". I'm sure some puritans do, but hardly "many". I wouldn't have first graders read it.

Anyway, what do you liberals want? An accurate depiction of history? Or a whitewashed version? It's very hard to tell.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My God. I'm not sure you read the book. "The job" was supposed to go to the new lawyer in town but they wanted Atticus to take it because of who he was. He didn't want to be in that spot, he didn't want to expose his kids to bigotry, but knew he couldnt ask his kids to respect him if he didn't do it. He didn't just poke holes the the prosecution's case, he went WAY beyond that and spoke out against the evil historical sin of bigotry. He didn't want to have Bob Ewell spit in his face, didn't want to have to drive out to tell Toms wife that Tom was dead. He never pressured clients to pay, took payments in food if that was all they had, and he was glad to take it.

"His job"? Just doing his job? It was his job, when he heard that the racists were coming to hang Tom, it was his job to go sit on the front steps of the jail all night, to stand up without flinching to an entire mob, to tell them to go home?

You missed THE ENTIRE POINT. Do you recall the scene in the book and in the movie, when all the blacks in the courtroom stood up in respect when he was leaving the courthouse? The black reverend said to his daughter who was sitting on the ground, ":Miss jean louise? Miss Jean Louise? Stand up, your father's passing." She looked around and saw that all the blacks were standing in respect for Atticus. That's a scene that's supposed to give you goosebumps at what a selfless hero he was (often taking payments in food, often letting people take as long as they needed to pay, never hounding them for payment).

Christ almighty, stick to fishing.